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Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: Best Vinyl Rig
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on: November 21, 2014, 09:27:28 am
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Comparison on my system between LP and CD tracks (Thank you Peter)
- No stereo (see ?); = On the LP is Stereo(listening off axis) - Strange highs (see ?)= Nothing strange here. - No bass AT ALL (see ?)= There is bass on the LP - No filling of the room anywhere while this track is famous for it. = Here I can’t compete with Peters amazing sounding room
This in brief. But additionally in more detail : No flagiolettes to be heard (always a property of the better system). = ?????? CD shows two (dubbed) voices - LP only one. = Correct, very easy to hear on the CD, on the LP most of the times difficult to hear, but there are two dubbed voice, good to hear in the middle and end of the song. Dead sound. Bad, poor, nothing. = ???? Watch the very last stroke on the guitar and how LP shows "a sound" while CD shows all the strings from a guitar.. = identical on both tracks
The CD produces more details, and the SPL of the LP is 6dB lower, In absolute terms the CD track sounds better.
Joachim
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Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: YFS USB cable tour
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on: November 19, 2014, 02:56:50 pm
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a „normal“ cable Which is not the one we provided with your NOS1 ? Can you still find that ? Regards, Peter Hi, no, I can't remember. The beginning of listening with the NOS1 USB version was with a normal USB cable, then came a cable from Entreq which created a better SQ and then the YFS. The YFS **Reference** has an extra/additional shielding and this influences the SQ. (keyword: every cable is an antenna) Joachim
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Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: YFS USB cable tour
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on: November 19, 2014, 01:54:21 pm
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Hi, interesting. I’m using the data only YFS **Reference** cable in my system since over a year and changed to a „normal“ cable back today. For the comparision I played the CD from Stanley Clarke http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Garden-Stanley-Clarke/dp/B001VFM0QU/ref=sr_1_10?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1416399145&sr=1-10&keywords=stanley+clarke first two tracks, where we can hear lots of an acoustic bass and cymbals. First impression with the 5V powered cable, a little bit more ambience, the sound of the cymbals is more room filling, and the acoustic bass got more body, but not more bass overall. The orientation/location of the instruments decreases in the soundstage, bass strings sounds less precise, and the cymbals don‘t sound right anymore. With the YFS **Reference** cable I hear at first the click on the cymbals, and then immediately the sound of the „shell“ follows, which I don’t hear with the „normal“ cable. Conclusion for me: The YFS **Reference** cable is more accurate and I see no reason to go back to a 5V USB cable. But we know, every system sounds different, and we have to evaluate what cable creates the best sound in our system. Joachim Edit: I'm using the YFS Reference USB cable, maybe this creates the difference.
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Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: Cables with BNC Connectors/Adapters Are Generating A Superoir SQ
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on: November 12, 2014, 07:14:43 pm
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At first I will play with Peters "Blaxius", which didn't arrive until today. Another item: The BNC/RCA adapter from Lindy has the best performance, a nice analogue sound with a "wall of sound" stage. I tried a chromated 50Ohm adapter and the SQ got harsh and the sound stage fell apart. Please see: http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=3026.msg32635#msg32635Joachim So ? I understand that you don't like the wall of sound etc., but only after finding the WikiPedia description ? If this is correct, what did you intend to say here then ? Peter Heeey Peter, the sound what I hear is perfect, but not the definition I wrote. When you accept that the definition of "wall of sound" is identical to "concert hall sound" and "ambience" then we are speaking the same language When I have to judge the SQ as per the "wall of sound" definition acc. to WikiPedia, then I have to listen to one of this recordings, and I have not one in mind. The sound of the samples at WikiPedia do not meet my preferences/taste, but this were different times. Joachim
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Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: Cables with BNC Connectors/Adapters Are Generating A Superoir SQ
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on: November 12, 2014, 04:06:38 pm
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Hey Joachim,
I'm getting more and more under the impression that you referred to the "wall of sound" in a negative sense. Is this correct ? (I ask this because I though you found it positive and now I am not sure)
Regards, Peter
Hi Peter, The "Wall of Sound" term describes a recording technique from Phil Spector I was not aware of, and I have no record in mind with this procedure. The SQ with a "concert hall sound" = "ambience" is preferred. Joachim
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Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: Cables with BNC Connectors/Adapters Are Generating A Superoir SQ
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on: November 12, 2014, 02:33:14 pm
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Hi Peter,
the link for a “wall of sound“ is not a good sample.
Let’s explain it in other words. In a concert hall the sound of all instruments are arriving our ears in a „mixture“ . The „ sound waves“ of each instrument and the reflextions of the walls are interacting with each other and the „final result“ is what you hear at the listening place.
The more accurate definition is, I think „ambience“ = from Stereophile: ambience (pronounced "ambee-ints") The aurally perceived impression of an acoustical space, such as the performing hall in which a recording was made.
Beg your pardon for my misinterpretation/confusion.
Joachim
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Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: Cables with BNC Connectors/Adapters Are Generating A Superoir SQ
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on: November 12, 2014, 12:26:04 pm
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Hi Peter, you invested a hell of time in your explanation, great writing. Make it short, because my room is not as big as yours and my seagull can’t fly ……… . The definition for „Wall of Sound“ I used see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_of_Sound. (The intent was to create a dense aesthetic that came across well on AM radio and jukeboxes popular in the era.)With the nickel plated adapter or some other cables there is „nothing“ (no air) between the instruments, it seems, that these instruments are recorded in separate chambers, not connected with each other. There is no cohesion in the soundstage as you hear it in concert halls. So, there is nothing special what I hear, and we know, every room sounds different. (see the differences between Pauls and Manis SQ's. Paul is in heaven and Mani is struggleing to get the same result) Joachim
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