Same experience here I was explaining this to a friend last normally when the sound is a bit edgy (as clarixa now sounds) then removing that edge tends to make the sound less detailed. That does not happen with Lush you hear even more detail but really smooth and natural. Better termination / matching?

Also my system has sounded a bit lacking in low bass since Peter visited and got to work fixing a fundamental problem I was unaware I had (not something I need to be embarrassed about I quickly add). Now the bass is definitely improved as well.

Cheers

Paul

Lush has arrived here and all I have to say is:

WOW !!!!

It is like all digital "stuff" has been removed from my system and replaced with analogue.

Cheers

Paul

!!!! Oh Dear !!!!! I had not meant to create confusion.  Just to say that it was great to see Ciska, Peter and Paul and we had a great afternoon. I am looking forward to receiving a Lush which is somewhere between here and Holland just now.

Cheers

Paul

  - so Lush is the latest greatest thing from the house of Phasure  -  So tell me what salesman would turn up without a Lush in his hand - Soon after Mani's visit Peter, Ciska and Paul turned up at my place with similarly short notice and did not have a Lush with him for either me or Mani.


Paul

Hi Peter -  070cm for me please

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Scroobius

Makes quite an improvement in my "setup" nice one Mani

Paul

Hey Peter,


So does the above infer that the "secret upgrade" is the main reason for the reduction in room effects? as surely it is that part of the G3 upgrade that will have improved jitter performance.

Cheers

Paul

Peter posted way way back that NOS1 with Orelo's have minimal room effects (IIRC). I had trouble believing that then but when I visited Peter's house before purchasing my Orelino's Peters room certainly did not exhibit any of the room effects that bedevil most systems (specifically bass reinforcements and suck outs  due to standing waves). That is all except for one tiny corner at the back of the room (the "Naughty" corner just next to the naughty step ha ha).

So when I got my Orelino's setup in my rather difficult room (SQ wise that is) it was not a big surprise that there were big room effects. Not withstanding that however the system sounded great, really great. So it seemed that room effects were here to stay in this room.

Well that is what I thought - but since getting my DAC back upgraded to G3 status not only has the sound quality REALLY improved but the room effects seem to be much less. In other words the reinforcement and cancellation problem is much less than it was. This is something that Peter may not appreciate because in his room it was never a problem anyway.

The difference here is really noticeable I am currently sitting in what was a previous NO NO for sound quality because there used to be a big bass reinforcement just here on the settee (not my normal listening position it has to be said). Now it just sounds great and a similar balance to the sound as everywhere else in the room.

It is so noticeable that even listening to the speakers from behind in the conservatory is really quite OK now whereas previously it was ARRGGHH bad.

So why is this?  well Peter states (again IIRC) that what comes out of the Orelino's with NOS1 driving them is much more phase coherent (or "Phasure") than in other systems that have had phase coherence smashed up by IIR filtering and "other misdemeanors" as Ian Dury would have said. So what has improved with G3 to improve phase coherence (if indeed I am right and that is what has happened)?

Is it the better output stage of NOS1 now responsible for better phase coherence? or maybe it is that "secret" upgrade. Who knows but my system is much better behaved in this room now - much better. Or that is how it seems to my ears.

I would be interested in your views Peter :-)

Cheers

Paul

mmmm put me on the list if that is possible just now!!

P

Last night I was listening and the sound has properly settled down now. I am sure there is more burn in to come but gains will be marginal henceforth methinks.

It has taken 6 days for the DAC to burn in and OMG is it sounding good now!!!!

Thanks Peter

Paul

Looking very classy !!!

Nice 

I have just played some MP3 files. Before the upgrade they sounded truly awful the bass was so bad that I found them unlistenable.

The strange thing is that they now sound half decent - they are transformed into something that can be listened too.

P

After two days running ISO Tech Demag files to get the DAC burned in I am surprised at just how much the sound quality has improved. The rough edge has virtually disappeared and the sound has loosened and flows better. Have to say I would have expected this level of improvement to have taken a week especially with those new Elna's.

The bass quality has also improved with burn in.

The only thing I would add is that with much listening I would hesitate to call this upgrade B'ASS because that infers the only improvements are in the bass. That just is not so every aspect of the sound has improved.

Could it be that there will be further improvement with more burn in? now there's a thought. 

Cheers

Paul

After a further listen last night the general "tightness" and grain that is always present with new electronics was more evident. I am sure it will ease off in due course and I will of course post further comments then.

Cheers

Paul

Hey Pedal - Not sure if Peter wants me to post a photo of the inside of NOS (G3) but as always it is a very neat piece of work. Peter maybe  consider posting a photo ?? 

Cheers

Paul