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121  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Question About Process Priority on: August 14, 2007, 09:06:46 am
Peter - I actually prefer setting the (thread) priority of Engine #3 to Realtime. Although, I have to change it with the Task Manager since XXHighEnd only allows changing it as high as "highest" (which only goes to "High" in Task Manager). Can the "Realtime" option be included in the setting? And by the way, setting the player priority to "Nothing" just shows up as "Normal" in Task Manager. In fact, no matter what setting I choose in the player, it shows up as "Normal" in Task Manager.
122  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Question About Process Priority on: July 28, 2007, 10:03:43 am
Peter, I hope this question wasn't already answered somewhere else on the forum, but here it is:

I know in XXHE you can select Player Priority (which I have selected RealTime). When I’m playing music and I look at the Task Manager, it shows Realtime priority just fine. However, of course, when a song starts playing XXEngine3.exe shows up in the Task Manager. This has a priority of “Normal”. Is that how it’s supposed to work? Or is it supposed to be running at Realtime? Or does it matter? Can we force it to run in Realtime?

BTW, in XXHE, Thread Priority is greyed out and cannot be changed. I assume this is normal?

Thanks for a clarification.
123  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Version 0.9d does not work for me - w/Vista (64bit) on: July 21, 2007, 07:37:28 pm
Why would someone do this?  It doesn't sound like a very audiophool thing to do.  I'm hoping you keep your niche here as strictly SQ and not try to make things work that are a foolish setup anyway?

Dave - I think you are misunderstanding what's going on here. We are trying to resolve why the player won't work with Vista (64bit). I'm not sitting on one PC and playing it from another or engaging in any "foolish setup". I just happened to come across a situation that duplicated the same error when trying to play from Vista (64), so I figured (and Peter seems to agree) that it might be related to each other and ultiimately help Peter make this program compatible with Vista (64). I don't necessarily consider this a foolish setup or waste of his time. If he doesn't want to support Vista (64) then that's up to him and fine with me - afterall I can use it just fine with Vista (32) on my dedicated music only PC. I agree that it is not necessary to load the program down with "code" to make it more "universal", and Peter, if that's the case, then there's no need to make this work for Vista (64) just for me.

Dave, I hope this clears things up and puts your mind at ease - I am all about the SQ as well.
124  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Version 0.9d does not work for me - w/Vista (64bit) on: July 21, 2007, 09:35:45 am
Peter - I have discovered something that may be useful to resolving this issue.

I have installed Vista (32bit) and have been able to use XXHighEnd just fine. Until...for some reason I tried running the program from my external NAS drive and then I get the same error that I've been getting with Vista (64). For what it's worth, it is a Buffalo LinkStation Pro (LS-500GL).

Anyway, I hope this is useful.
125  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Version 0.9d does not work for me - w/Vista (64bit) on: July 10, 2007, 08:05:49 pm
This is also about the 4 microsoft.directx.* DLLs which are there since 0.9d, of which Edward did not tell that removing them made a difference. I think it just does (and then presents the message from 0.9b you showed).

Peter
OK Peter - every version (0.9d, 0.9d-1, 0.9d-2) all behaved the same (with the same error details). And there was no difference when I ran XXHighEnd.exe with the directx DLLs or without. I even tried running XXHighEnd.exe in a folder by itself and still get the same error.

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For now Edward, Vista too just needs these Redistributables.
I also tried to run the DirectX redistributables (even though I have DirectX10) in case perhaps it updates something - it did install something, but with XXHighEnd I still get the same errors. Then I tried to run the .NET Framework 3.0 redistributable, but this just told me that Vista already has this and to turn it on through the "turn windows features on" control panel. (Which I have already done before I started all this)

Peter - If you need to take your time to properly create the x64 version (after you install Vista x64 and test it) then I totally understand. When I have time this week I'm going to create a second boot with 32bit Vista (something I've been meaning to do for other reasons) and I'll just try XXHighEnd then.
126  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Version 0.9d does not work for me - w/Vista (64bit) on: July 09, 2007, 08:01:48 pm
First off, maybe you missed a few things ... maybe I did not make it clear in large capitals ... but this player *is* in beta.

OK, I apologize, I either did not see that or did not thoroughly understand it. I must say though, I have been using, buying, and beta testing software for 15 years and never had to pay during the beta testing. Of course, I'm still operating under the assumption that I have to pay to use your software. Did I misunderstand that too?

Then, so far I have had no indications that the 64bit version wouldn't run, but from you (it would be on this forum then, and if not I just wouldn't know about it).

Well, I don't mean to be argumentative, but you would know about it if you had tried it yourself on 64bit Vista. Do you have 64bit Vista and have you tried it? Your comments implied to me that you have not, but if indeed you have, then please be clear about it so I know if this problem is only on my system.

As far as I can think of now you probably didn't download all there is to download (like the DirectX Redistributables (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=11.0)) which would be normal behaviour then, as you described.

Peter

I have checked the link you provided for updating DirectX, however it states that it is version 9.19.1007. I have version 10 that installed with Vista. Are you telling me that I have to go backwards? Or am I misunderstanding something here?
127  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Version 0.9d does not work for me - w/Vista (64bit) on: July 09, 2007, 07:04:53 pm
This one is explicitly compiled for X64 only.

Also ... In your XX directory there will be 4 Microsoft.DirectX DLLs. These 4 DLLs might bother you and you could move them out of the way temporarily. If this latter helps, do not start playing and listening to this 0.9d-2 version, but go back to the normal 0.9d (but leave those DDLs out).

This still does not work and behaves exactly as the previous.

Peter - I think it's time to stop right there. You do not mention in your "prerequisites" that this only works with Vista (32bit), but it's clear to me now that this is true. So the first thing you need to do is re-write the prerequisites to say "not currently supported in 64bit Vista". Second of all, you are asking for money for this program which implied to me that you have a finished product, but it's clear that you are still in development and testing. What you should have done is declare this a beta period and select private beta testers to do all your testing, while you iron out the bugs, and do not release (or charge) the public until all testing is concluded. From your comments to me such as "I'm not even sure what to do", "it should just work", "these might bother you", it is clear to me that you do not even have 64bit Vista, nor have tested it before with 64bit Vista. It is inappropriate for you to charge me for a program and then ask me to be a tester for you just to get it to work. I'm sorry, that is not how software development works. If you want (and need) me to be a tester for you, then I would be happy to *IF* you ask me and offer to either pay me or give me your program for free. I'm not trying to be a leech off of you. I'm just explaining how business works. I totally understand that you are new at this and this program is still under development and I can appreciate this exciting process and would like to be a part of it. But this is not how business works and it is inapporpriate to be charging money during this period. If you simply want to tell me that this program is not ready for 64bit Vista (and you re-write your prerequisites) then I will totally understand, and wait for the final version. (Or you can PM me with an appropriate offer)
128  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Version 0.9d does not work for me - w/Vista (64bit) on: July 08, 2007, 10:52:17 pm

Ok, "officially" it should just work;
Could you please try withgoing zip ? Put the exe coming from it in your XX directory, and start it.

Several numbers and characters come by (like 001, a, b, c, d, etc.);
Would be so kind to report back what those numbers and characters are before it errors out ?
I hope it even comes up with the first ...

Thanks.

I tried it, but it does exactly the same as before. Immediately displays the "XXHighEnd has stopped working" window (with the details I listed before). I do not see any display of numbers and/or characters as you mention.
129  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Version 0.9d does not work for me - w/Vista (64bit) on: July 08, 2007, 02:42:53 am
I have downloaded 0.9d and tried to run XXHighEnd.exe, but it immediately displays a window that XXHighEnd has stopped working. Under the "problem details" it displays this:

Description:
  Stopped working

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   CLR20r3
  Problem Signature 01:   xxhighend.exe
  Problem Signature 02:   1.0.2733.34784
  Problem Signature 03:   46871379
  Problem Signature 04:   XXHighEnd
  Problem Signature 05:   1.0.2733.34784
  Problem Signature 06:   46871379
  Problem Signature 07:   b
  Problem Signature 08:   d0
  Problem Signature 09:   System.InvalidOperationException
  OS Version:   6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   1033

I am using Windows Vista Home Premium (64bit) and of course I have turned on the .NET Framework 3.0 feature and am using DirectX 10.

Thanks for any help on this.
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