Chris,

When your'e playing with Engine#3, XXEngine3.exe will be visible in Taskmanager;
Suppose you give it high priority (rightclick on the process -> set priority), possibly even "Real Time", does that help you ?
I disabled setting the "thread" priority for #3, just because it shouldn't matter, but supposed it helps you ... I can enable it.

Peter

GREAT !

 

No, you should be able to use it "locally" as well. I never tried it though.
I think you can start at www.freedb.org to check it out.

I'm not sure this is for the unexperienced ... "Downloads" overthere doesn't look promising. I just don't know !

Hi Rupe,

Now I'm not sure whether you previously though to come back when the baby is ready (see your own text), or that you NOW think to come back later ... When the last :

No reason to, because afaik everything works. However :


This is about the HD audio driver which is just not allowing Exclusive Mode. This is unrelated to a baby not being ready, but is about (IMHO) Microsoft providing immature soundcard drivers for the HD Audio internal device. Here is where I promised that (although I thought you indeed were already using #3 at that moment) :


For this device only #1 and #2 can be used, and than Vista resamples in both cases (as it would do with each player).
In the end you just must not use this internal device.

HTH

Not since I forgot about that , although incurred from this :


and


of which I did not see the logic, although literally ("deliver") it would be correct.

But okay.
My conclusion would be it's the PC talking to firewire - or the PC-Firewire card. I'd opt fot the last (also because the route is more easy to check).

I don't think otherwise, bot you would PROOVE the opposite if you'd plug in earphones into the Dell, and then it would be glitch free. So you really must do that !!

Yes.
The question is though, whether your headphones are connected to an output from the PC itself (and not to the Fireface). If so, it's *also* not the Firewire.

?

1. Yep. But in the Fireface Mixer you have to enable those outputs, similar to SPDIF you did before.

2. Yep.

Rupe,

Maybe I am (and was) not quite sure what to tell you.
But let's try to get there.


Wish ? Did you really mean to say that ? I assumed it, yes. Is this assumption wrong ?
If so, with #1 and #2 you will not get bit perfect playback with Vista.
Ok, for that matter you could say that I wish that you use #3, because your chances lay there ...
Now :


This is correct, because it is used by XXHighEnd.exe, which is the only one *you* should start. The #3 is then selected by means of the "Quality" combobox.


Merely, this is just not necessary, because it already comes with Vista. For XP it would be true better not to download/install that, but this is not your case.


Somehow I am to blame for not understanding what you actually want. I understand your question, but I have the hunch that you somewhere have a problem (like not getting #3 to run ?).

Please don't feel shy to express whatever it is you feel the need to know. But if the question is too "open", I can only have general answers.
Let's start with a question of mine : could you please list your bunch of concrete questions you probably have ? Stupid questions don't exist ...

Regards,
Peter



PS: I see now that you could be asking how to get from your PC to your DAC, while your DAC currently is being used by means of a CD player. Can I be right on this ?

It just sprang to my mind ...

I don't think I ever expressed in here (but I did on AA) that the sole thing to find out whether your playback is "bit perfect" under Vista, is whether you can shutoff or control the volume with the "Volume Mixer". If you can, you're not.
So you got that part Rupe.

I'll try  ...
Assuming your DAC doesn't contain an earphone jack It can only be a general outlay though ...

You'd be using Engine#3 since this is the most accurate playback means, I think (well, as intended fort sure).

The means of presenting the data to you DAC (not listed in your "main stream") would be around any interference of the OS and her services (why ? because XX was just created for that and, say, behaves like that or let the rest behave accordingly).

For Vista this would be kind of special anyway, because apart from ASIO there's no other means to do it than how XX does it. This is for a great deal due to the "Exclusive use" of the sound device, that going around all that normally just *will* mangle the data. This is the basis for proper playback.
That this sure is not all, should be proved by Engine#1 and Engine#2, which for Vista 100% sure just do not have this base (hence there the data *is* mangled by Vista), while it still sound wonderfully. But since all is in a context, the context of this is just  here, which not only proves how wrong things can be, but also indicates that this is not stupic commercials only.

But now ...


Just this would incur for that last mentioned situation, being about the not being able of getting the sound device exclusively, that by itself causing the SRC (sample rate converter) of Vista jumping in, no matter nothing is there to be resampled.

As far as I have found, this is related to what you mention in your signature :
which by now to me looks like some kind of hoax since the last thing it seems to be is "high definition" (well, according to MS all which is resampled is for the better of "you" the Vista user).


Rupe, I was taking a presumption on you using Engine#3 (of which I have this example of "HD Audio" on my desk which behaves the same as you just told) which doesn't seem to work ever with this "class driver" device. If you were using #1 or #2, then try #3 first before I'm screeming (okay, I already did ).

Does this help you in some way ?

This time you ask the question later than the answer. 

http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=125.0

Whether the answer is of some use is another thing.

Additionally, I found this : http://www.bd-design.nl/forum/board_entry.php?id=11592&page=0&category=all&order=last_answer&descasc=DESC#p11741

And this as a follow up : http://forum.bd-design.nl/board_entry.php?id=11766#p11772

might you need the other way around.
(and might you have a spare evening to read it )

From http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/2/21528.html :



Go to the tab as shown below and select your USB driver in there. BUT :
What you see there ("No Playback Devices") is probably what you see too. That is, if you shut everything off because of Foobar et al, that what you'll get. I did that too, but with me this is about bit perfect MME (from RME) drivers, which just don't need to show there.
The best option for you would be to enable your USB device in Device Manager, hence revert what you did to shut that off (if you did, that is). Write down what you do to revert it, so you can go back if you don't like XX afteral. I know, to get all (not !!) working in there as should is a hell by itself.


This would be true. But be careful in the mean time :
Engine#2 just will allow you to load the combined tracks, but it may take ages. There will be incurred for (intensive) swapping, and with a CD of 700MB with maybe 300MB free RAM it may take 15 minutes (depending on the situation you might get an Out of Memory error). So really nothing to go for. Better add this RAM.
Besides all, this disk I/O will influence the sound for Engine#2 (and #1 ... not #3).

HTH

Okay, I have made this sticky in this Boozing area, which might not be the most appropriate please. Otoh, I don't want to make it mandatory and also want to avoid too many sticky topics in the support board.

In the near future you might see that I'm adding things to it, which I then add just because I think it can be of importance in certain occasions. As an example, I just saw you mention your OS version (like "Premium" from Vista) so I added that too, because only yesterday this appeared to be of great importance (no formal DirextX for Managed Code support for Vista Business).

Anyway I'd like you to copy my behaviour, even if you don't see the importance of it.

I don't think it can harm if you use your signatures to show off a bit, but be careful that it's not going against you like : yeah, but you with your 100K DAC possibly hear more than I can, so we are sure not going to listen to you. Of course I try to say with some diplomacy (me ?  ) that it might work the other way around. Well, never mind, go as you like, but try to separate "showing off" from the real information we're talking about here.