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Ultimate Audio Playback => XXHighEnd Support => Topic started by: juanpmar on February 06, 2016, 01:01:01 am



Title: Keeping the system stable
Post by: juanpmar on February 06, 2016, 01:01:01 am
Well, that you should have a stable system. Stable-wrong or stable-right. But not at the will of God
Peter

Peter, you mentioned the paragraph above referring to what boleary said on plugging and unplugging the USB drives and/or other components. Doing it creates electronic imbalances that affect the sound.  http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=3453.msg37458#msg37458 (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=3453.msg37458#msg37458)

This is now my system configuration:

Dock with 2 music drives (2Tb each) > USB 3.0 cable > Music PC (W10) used exclusively  to manage the Remote Desktop > Ethernet Gigabyte cable > Switch > Ethernet Gigabyte cable > Audio Pc with the Ram-disk.

The idea behind the Ram-disk is to keep the Audio Pc as "clean" as possible to get better sound. I wonder if removing the Ram-disk once it is loaded into memory can produce also some kind of instability in the system. In any case, is there a sequence or an exact moment to pull the Ram-disk? And also, once the Ram-disk is out, could shut down the Music Pc? Could this also alter the stability of the system?

Regards,
Juan



Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: PeterSt on February 06, 2016, 09:48:49 am
Hi Juan,

Although maybe over a year we think differently (because someone found out), I think at this moment it does not matter when we take out the RAM-OS Disk. That is, there is no sequence whatsoever - we take it out or not.

This relates somewhat to the Music Server PC shutting off or not. I'd say Not, already because it is too inconvenient. But YMMV because I have the Music Server PC on another mains earth ring, so I don't care much as long as I don't connect anything of it to the Audio mains earth ring. And, ethernet (from Audio PC to Music Server PC) is inherently isolated, so ...
But anyway, shutting down your music server ... No. Each time boot it when I am fed up with the album playing and I want to choose another ?
No.

Regards,
Peter


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: juanpmar on February 06, 2016, 10:04:14 am
Well, that you should have a stable system. Stable-wrong or stable-right. But not at the will of God
Peter

Peter, you mentioned the paragraph above referring to what boleary said on plugging and unplugging the USB drives and/or other components. Doing it creates electronic imbalances that affect the sound.  http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=3453.msg37458#msg37458 (http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=3453.msg37458#msg37458)

This is now my system configuration:

Dock with 2 music drives (2Tb each) > USB 3.0 cable > Music PC (W10) used exclusively  to manage the Remote Desktop > Ethernet Gigabyte cable > Switch > Ethernet Gigabyte cable > Audio Pc with the Ram-disk.

The idea behind the Ram-disk is to keep the Audio Pc as "clean" as possible to get better sound. I wonder if removing the Ram-disk once it is loaded into memory can produce also some kind of instability in the system. In any case, is there a sequence or an exact moment to pull the Ram-disk? And also, once the Ram-disk is out, could shut down the Music Pc? Could this also alter the stability of the system?

Regards,
Juan



Iīm not talking about unplugging here, the reference to the boleary post was based only in the electronic instability that could produce the pull of the ramdisk, although I guess that there is none. On the other hand to turn off of the Music Pc is mostly based in the noise it produces in my room. Although it has some inconveniences because once you charge a list of music you canīt do anything if you have no active the Remote desktop. Well, this is probably not a good idea and the solution is to find a quieter Music Pc.

Juan


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: juanpmar on February 06, 2016, 10:07:44 am
I read your last post after writing mine, sorry. I get the idea, thanks.

Regards,
Juan


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: AlainGr on February 06, 2016, 10:17:37 am
Hi Juan,

Can you express more details about the noise(s) that your server makes ? This may help to find a solution, even if getting a silent computer could solve the problem...

I don't know if this would be of some help, but if you install XXHighEnd on the server also - just to use its Minimize OS capability, maybe the server will also be less noisy ? It normally allows to reduce the CPU clock speed and turns down a lot of processes and services, so it should require less ventilation ?

Peter, am I right to assume that we can install more than one XXHighEnd software without having to pay for a second licence ?

Alain


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: juanpmar on February 06, 2016, 10:25:49 am
Hi Alain,

The noise I have comes mostly from the power supply in the Music Server but I have in some place another one less noise, on the other hand I could place the Music Server in other room with a longer Ethernet cable. About your idea of Minimize using XXHE in the Music Server to make it less noisy I donīt know if this would cut other processes needed by the Remote Desktop.

Regards,
Juan


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: PeterSt on February 06, 2016, 10:27:09 am
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Peter, am I right to assume that we can install more than one XXHighEnd software without having to pay for a second licence ?

Correct, Alain.
And thinking Tidal, one even *has* to install XXHighEnd on that Music Server PC (so all can be done / Prepared there, instead of on the Audio PC, where you wouldn't like an Internet connection in the first place.

Regards,
Peter


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: PeterSt on February 06, 2016, 10:32:26 am
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the electronic instability that could produce the pull of the ramdisk, although I guess that there is none.

Juan, No.
I forgot to explicitly mention that.

I think such instability can only emerge from making / breaking connections between devices, with the USB cable as a good example. But also plugging/unplugging mains cords (now things connect to each other over the mains).

With your NOS1(a) you can nicely see what actually happens or what's to be established : a decent connection with the "ground loops" where we want it. I guess we all know about the DC Offset which can be higher than wanted. So what do you do to correct that ? re-establish connections. All you need to do is think of what you actually do when you "set" your DC Offset ...
Right ?

Peter



Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: juanpmar on February 06, 2016, 10:42:15 am
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the electronic instability that could produce the pull of the ramdisk, although I guess that there is none.

Juan, No.
I forgot to explicitly mention that.

I think such instability can only emerge from making / breaking connections between devices, with the USB cable as a good example. But also plugging/unplugging mains cords (now things connect to each other over the mains).

With your NOS1(a) you can nicely see what actually happens or what's to be established : a decent connection with the "ground loops" where we want it. I guess we all know about the DC Offset which can be higher than wanted. So what do you do to correct that ? re-establish connections. All you need to do is think of what you actually do when you "set" your DC Offset ...
Right ?

Peter

Right, Peter. Thanks

Juan


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: AlainGr on February 06, 2016, 10:53:21 am
OT... My audio PC decided to fail on me... it does not start anymore. Don't know what is happening (PSU, motherboard, ON/OFF switch... I will sing in the meantime, but I already know that the SQ will be baaaaad...

Alain


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: juanpmar on February 06, 2016, 11:03:06 am
Alain, if you're alone in your home you can sing without fear, although, is not too early in Canada?  :blink:

Juan


Title: Re: Keeping the system stable
Post by: AlainGr on February 06, 2016, 11:06:04 am
Well yes it is quite early. Even birds are not singing already, but they are probably getting dressed for the cold and having breakfast ;)

Alain