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316  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 09, 2010, 09:54:38 pm
That I don't use ArcPred doesn't make it a bad thing. It is not ment to work that way, it is for NOS-DACs. Justed in case "someone" misunderstands this.
317  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: Challenging hiend cd player/transport result on: December 09, 2010, 09:14:42 pm
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I use RME-AES32 in my main system and I believe it's better than your NOS DAC as your XXHighend is like immature framework against jplay using WASAPI. I tested with INT202 just to compare between "my system" and "properly optimized XXHighend like marcin said" as XXHighend owner firmly believe INT202 is his best approach.

I have a RME-9632 and I know how cr*py it sounds. Sorry but... LOL rofl
318  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 07, 2010, 08:26:00 pm
To be honest, at last, I kicked out ArcPred again. Don't know what was yesterday Happy Maby to sick to hear. ArcPred has something but, there is still the awkwardness... However, now all is back to normal except that I kept the doubling.
319  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: JPlay Part Deux: A new controversy?... on: December 07, 2010, 07:43:08 pm
I made a short test between the 32 and 64 bit version. If there is a difference in how they sound, it is very smal. Maby 64 is a tiny bit better but this is in the range of imagination/placebo.
320  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 07, 2010, 12:13:05 am
I am back to 8xOs. There are "more" highs with 4xOs and it sounds more dynamic (agressiv?) but it is also fartiguing. There is something wrong, something that bothers my ears. 8xOs sounds finer and renders/seperates each instrument more. As always, it needs a little time to judge.
321  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: JPlay Part Deux: A new controversy?... on: December 06, 2010, 09:32:22 pm
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Flecko: Thank you for your observations!

Was it done before you found jumpers to disable oversampling or after?
And could I bug you for 32 vs 64 bit test?

It was done before the oversampling changes (8xOs with filter).
Now I use 4xOs with filter. The sound is very different now. Much more highs. will do the 32/64 test later. I must buy some food now :starving:
greetings
322  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 06, 2010, 08:41:34 pm
Best sound is with DAP and 4xOs with filter=on. without filter it sounds grainy no matter if I use 8,4,2,1x Os.
After all. Today I could do a lot for the sound, very exciting. Must be my gift from Santa innocent Claus.
THX All
323  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 06, 2010, 08:10:50 pm
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Maybe it is only me who doesn't understand or can follow ... maybe it is you ... I am not sure;

You should try No oversampling and No filtering in the DAC, and next use Double Arc Prediction. That is, this is what everybody is advising you (I will too). If that doesn't sound good to you, try the oversampling in the DAC.
It now looks as if you only tried the latter.

Thx... now I get it. I was to excited to get a clear thought. Ok there is the oversampling and the filter. I can switch the filter on/off and adjust oversampling from 1x to 8x. Ok. What I did:
Changed oversampling rate from 1x to 8x with "filter=on" (best was 4x os)
switched the filter off and 8x oversampling=on (I thought the oversampling would be off if the filter is off)
I will try to disable both and go up with oversampling if it sounds bad...




324  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 06, 2010, 06:44:54 pm
Ok. First results Happy
no filter is like mani sayd no good idea. it has more present highs but after some time you know there is something wrong.
With the oversampling it is different.
Standart setting 8x.
The first new setting I tried was 1x os. The highs become much more dynamic and brighter (people sayed it should be the other way round..because earlyer roll off.)
drums sounded much more real. 8x sounds also nice a little bit layed back and rounder.
At the moment I listen two 4x, which seems to be a good compromise.
Maybe because 2usx4os=8x Happy

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This is totally crazy. I don't see any reason why Audio-GD have limited the non-USB inputs to 96KHz. Maybe because of the filter... but this can be bypassed!
Any Idea how to do?
325  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 06, 2010, 05:51:28 pm
here are the settings one can make
http://assets.head-fi.org/c/c1/c19b166b_DSP1+pin+settings.JPG

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It's just the little dip switch in the unit, isn't it?
Yes.

there are two settings one can make.
dip 7 is bypass

and dip 4,5 one can set oversampling from 1X to 8x

The differents is not realy clear to me. is 1x oversampling still oversampling? It sounds not as bright as bypass.

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he Reference 7 won't allow for QAP as it is limited to 24/96 AFAIK
Jep, QAP doesn't work.

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I strongly advise against not engaging any filter at all either in XX (AP or AI) or in your DAC. You will have a lot of HF stuff coming through. It may sound quite euphonic at first, but it's not a good thing to do... Peter often quotes 30% THD, etc.
ok thx ... i will go back to the 1x os settings.
326  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 06, 2010, 05:41:57 pm
WOW! That was a great hint  Shocked Too much clapping Highs are so much more present and real now...must listen a little longer there are different settings...1xoversampling and nos ...what is the differents?
327  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 06, 2010, 05:11:39 pm
I found the settings... GREAT.. I will play Happy
328  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel) on: December 06, 2010, 04:53:06 pm
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Flecko, with your Audio-GD Ref 7 DAC, are you bypassing the oversampling filter when you use Arc Prediction? I think you should...

Mani.

never thought about that...can I do this by just switching the jumpers? Do you know where I get the information how to do it? Great Idea!
329  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: JPlay Part Deux: A new controversy?... on: December 06, 2010, 04:45:53 pm
thx marcin!

I tested aples with aples first:

xx-engine3@44.1/16bit <-> jplay64
result: same sort of sound but jplay sounds cleaner

then aples with pears

xx-engine4,special@44.1/16bit <-> jplay64
result: nearly same level of detail, a little bit more focus on lower midrange and bass with xx, jplay sounds brighter

and then aples with oranges

xx-engine4,special@88.2/24bit <-> jplay64
result: much more musical with xx, more 3d, simply better

btw: just tested sfs.ini settigns again: would say 01 is closer to jplay than 21...I like 01 more
330  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: JPlay Part Deux: A new controversy?... on: December 06, 2010, 03:01:22 pm
Where is the instruction to set up the memory lock thing?
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