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Title: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: AlainGr on February 19, 2013, 02:27:16 pm
Hi Peter,

From what I understand, I have to not allow the rest of the services to work, including the network. So I did not activate the "Stop all Services" when I minimized OS, since I need that (networking) + RDC.

Once in Minimized OS, I can select it ("Stop all services"), but of course, when the song(s) are finished, I can't have access to the music pc no more. I know there is a way to tell XXHE to bring back the network plus the Remote Desktop Connection, but it would spare me a lot of trial and errors if you could indicate me what and where to put them exactly ?

Thanks.

Alain


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: PeterSt on February 19, 2013, 02:44:15 pm
Hey Alain,

I am sorry, but no, this can't work. This is do or die and exactly what it is for.

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Once in Minimized OS, I can select it ("Stop all services"), but of course, when the song(s) are finished, I can't have access to the music pc no more.

Yea, well, uhm ... here I forgot to check a few things. So :
a. you shoudn't be allowed to (de)activate this all only when in Minimized;
b. therefore it is all moot (to even try it).

Read : this will not bring you any better sound.
But more importantly : why care ? you are already used to using the network, so no way your sound can be optimal. This is all up to you of course, like wanting to use the Remote is up to you.

I sure hope that others read this too and are not too ignorant about it. It really matters.

Peter


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: AlainGr on February 19, 2013, 03:48:24 pm
Hum... May I suggest something ? While I don't know how complicated this can be, let's say that, like in unattended mode there things that are deactivated, would it be possible to add this functionnality with metworking and RDC ? So, when I start playing in unattended, the network disconnects and the RDC closes. All OK. At the end of the song(s), XXHE reactivate them ? Not a matter of life and death, but "if" it is possible without having to rewrite fundamentals in XXHE ?

Alain

Edit: Yes, I am certainly interested in using this new way of accessing the music pc. If I still had 2 dongles (only one working) for Bluetooth, at least I would use that instead of the standard ethernet...


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: PeterSt on February 19, 2013, 04:04:00 pm
Oh wait now ...

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If I still had 2 dongles (only one working) for Bluetooth, at least I would use that instead of the standard ethernet...

Apologies ! I assumed that you used it for a NAS.
Ok, this is stupid. I have to send you a new dongle.

And next ... well, all actually anticipates on the combination with the remote control, but for now I just didn't put that through just because it takes virtually ages to find out the best combination to have all running as should. But look at the WiFi-Direct "aim" and see it coming ...

Peter


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: AlainGr on February 19, 2013, 04:55:30 pm
Oh wait now ...

Apologies ! I assumed that you used it for a NAS.
Ok, this is stupid. I have to send you a new dongle.

And next ... well, all actually anticipates on the combination with the remote control, but for now I just didn't put that through just because it takes virtually ages to find out the best combination to have all running as should. But look at the WiFi-Direct "aim" and see it coming ...

Peter
Well if it is possible to have a new set of dongles (I will have one in reserve), just PM me about the price (I don't remember it) and I'll go through Paypal ?

But... My understanding is that BT + RDC will not be accepted with "Stop all services" - right ?

Thanks.

Alain


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: PeterSt on February 19, 2013, 05:08:46 pm
At this moment ? no. But as said, it would diminish the whole idea. So, this tells that when that part stays active SQ will be less again.

Peter


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: Gerard on February 19, 2013, 05:26:35 pm
Oh wait now ...

Apologies ! I assumed that you used it for a NAS.
Ok, this is stupid. I have to send you a new dongle.

And next ... well, all actually anticipates on the combination with the remote control, but for now I just didn't put that through just because it takes virtually ages to find out the best combination to have all running as should. But look at the WiFi-Direct "aim" and see it coming ...

Peter
Well if it is possible to have a new set of dongles (I will have one in reserve), just PM me about the price (I don't remember it) and I'll go through Paypal ?

But... My understanding is that BT + RDC will not be accepted with "Stop all services" - right ?

Thanks.

Alain


Hey Alain,

I have a spare for you if you like.

 :)


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: AlainGr on February 19, 2013, 05:56:47 pm

Hey Alain,

I have a spare for you if you like.

 :)
Hi Gerard :)

Thanks, but it would be complicated for you no ? It would be fantastic if I lived in Europe... But afar like this, I would feel guilty to ask for this...

The thought is appreciated though :)

Regards,

Alain :)


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: AlainGr on February 19, 2013, 06:02:17 pm
At this moment ? no. But as said, it would diminish the whole idea. So, this tells that when that part stays active SQ will be less again.

Peter
Maybe I don't get it the way you intend, but I was under the impression that the whole point is to let the system "dead" for the time it plays music, and then bring the screen, the network and the RDC back - until the next play... An so on...

 :dntknw:
Alain



Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: PeterSt on February 19, 2013, 06:21:51 pm
Alain, what you ask takes a week at least to sort out. So No.

I told about 700 reboots for W8. Add to that maybe 100 for W7 to get this (8-2) going and do notice that on W7 it takes something like 10 times longer to reboot. So only that already.

If you read about the possible issues mentioned (Release Notes, ToolTips) you'd see that this is related to reboots and that it can't be about "just" restarting something.
Wasn't that you who shut down more services for your own fun and that causing W8 to malfunction all the way ? that sort of thing.

Peter


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: Gerard on February 19, 2013, 09:55:51 pm

Hey Alain,

I have a spare for you if you like.

 :)
Hi Gerard :)

Thanks, but it would be complicated for you no ? It would be fantastic if I lived in Europe... But afar like this, I would feel guilty to ask for this...

The thought is appreciated though :)

Regards,

Alain :)

Well dont ask ;)

I offer...

Let me now by PM when you Like to buy one pair

Grtz


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: mowa on February 22, 2013, 05:18:57 pm
Maybe not the right topic Sorry for that.

Os = Windows 7 x64 and it's a clean install.

I experience another error after activating "stop all services"
See the picture below.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16238644/20130221_020202.jpg)
This error comes up when i click the play button.
When "stop all services" is not activated it works just fine.
What can cause this error?

A second queston related to "stop all services";
What does "stop all services" do exactly?
Is it an script stopping all services or is it doing more than that?
If it only stopping services i can stop them manually right..??
That's what i did in former xxhighend versions.

Further more; when i hit "minimized mode" after rebooting i following message is showing up in the bottom right corner of the desktop;

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Windows 7 build 7601 " This copy of windows is not genuine"

In normal mode the message is gone..??!!
Either way the system is working just fine it's more like a nag.


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: PeterSt on February 22, 2013, 06:02:22 pm
Mowa,

I'm fairly sure all your questions are answered in the Release Notes to 0.9z-8-2 and in the ToolTip to the button concerned.

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If it only stopping services i can stop them manually right..??
That's what i did in former xxhighend versions.

No way it is the same. But of course you can do what you want. But for sure you won't be able to do what the "Stop All" does.

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Windows 7 build 7601 " This copy of windows is not genuine"

This is because the service which checks for your OS to be legal is not running and thus it is regared to be not legal. But no worries, it is totally harmless.

And then regarding your error : I have seen this too, but if all is right this happens only once. Maybe per Minimimed OS session (coming from Normal OS). So, jut try it again (Playback) and if all is right it won't happen again. Or ?

I hope all is clear !
Regards,
Peter


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: mowa on February 22, 2013, 07:50:57 pm
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No way it is the same. But of course you can do what you want. But for sure you won't be able to do what the "Stop All" does.
Okay, that's clear. In previous versions i'd manually stopped all kinds of whatever is running in the background.

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This is because the service which checks for your OS to be legal is not running and thus it is regared to be not legal. But no worries, it is totally harmless.
So the mentioned checking service is stopped by the "Stop all"..?? because i didn't see this before.

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And then regarding your error : I have seen this too, but if all is right this happens only once. Maybe per Minimimed OS session (coming from Normal OS). So, jut try it again (Playback) and if all is right it won't happen again. Or ?
No, it persists and playback isn't running  :( If only once i could live with it.


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: PeterSt on February 22, 2013, 08:25:22 pm
What do you mean "and playback isn't running" ?
You must click away that message of course ...

Regards,
Peter


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: Gerard on February 22, 2013, 08:40:06 pm
Mowa,

I had some trouble with this settings at start too.

but this is the way i have it now.

Maybe it is more clear.

 :)


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: mowa on February 22, 2013, 08:55:53 pm
Hi Peter and Gerard,

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What do you mean "and playback isn't running" ?
You must click away that message of course ...
Well...playback isn't running at all, when i click away the message music isn't playing and i see a blue screen (Not the BSOD)
Only thing i can do is hitting ALT+S / ALT+X.

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I had some trouble with this settings at start too.

but this is the way i have it now.
Thnx, but i've no trouble with the settings though.


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: PeterSt on February 22, 2013, 09:28:01 pm
So each time you attempt playback the message appears again ?

What if you reboot (just via Start Button) and try again ?
:scratching:


Title: Re: 09-z8-2 and Stop All Services
Post by: mowa on February 22, 2013, 10:58:26 pm
After some hours of trial & error finally solved..!! :wacko:
The error was apparently caused by the GPU driver  :wtf:  :oops: (AMD HD7950,the system also acts as a game pc = dual boot on 2 SSD discs)
After deleting GPU drivers and Catalyst control center it now works like a charm.

Man, 09-z8-2 sounds really sounds more analog..!! I now hear the wood from the violin (Bach: sonatas and partitas, Isabelle Faust) and the mechanism from the fortepiano (Kristian Bezuidenhout on his last Mozart cd). I can estimate the size of a Steinway and there's more depth in the soundstage.
Very, very good job..!!

i'll change my sig and after that i'll enjoy a "cd" or 2 (maybe 3)