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Title: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: soundgals on February 13, 2013, 08:09:56 pm
I thought I'd give W8 a try and managed to install it on a mid 2010 Mac Mini with 8gig of RAM.

All settings are the same as yours Peter, as a starting point, including xTweaks, except PA is not selected.

Plays fine in attended mode and I can hear some of the qualities you and others have been describing.

Got the W7 shell installed as well.

Minimised OS.

The only problem is I can't run in unattended mode.

The "stopping services" message stays there for a while, then flashes on and off before disappearing. Then music plays for a few seconds and then the machine reboots itself.

Any ideas?

Perhaps I've run into the limitations finally of this Mac Mini. I'd like to get it working having got this far though. Win 7 works fine.

This is now a triple boot machine; MACOSX, W7, W8

I haven't tried disabling xtweaks, so maybe I should try that.

Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,

geoff


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: PeterSt on February 14, 2013, 08:37:37 am
:heat:

Geoff,

The easiest thing to try as a first is to play with the normal Metro shell active (just switch it back to that - no need to uninstall the W7 shell).

Another thing to try, and now with the W7 shell active again, is reboot into Normal OS, do NOT switch off any of the services and see what that brings. When it works, shut off the Desktop Services. When it still works, shut off the Remainder.


Think of the reboot occurring because a service is shut down which shouldn't. This would be my fault, but in that case it should be about a special service (??) for Windows running on the Mac; a probably too long shot. But with the proposed testing as described above we hopefully learn a few things.

Regards,
Peter


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: soundgals on February 14, 2013, 04:30:13 pm
Thanks Peter,

Sounds like you're on the right track. Shutting down remaining services produces the crash, under normal os as you advised.

Unattended works with only Desktop services off.

Looks like this machine thinks it needs one of those services.

geoff


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: PeterSt on February 14, 2013, 04:37:54 pm
Ok.

Usually this is about a virus scanner, but in this case I am not sure. Still ... can it be so that you have an anti virus program running on this OS while you do not have that running on the other OS installs ?

But also : Do you have an anti virus program running anyway (this could work out OK on W7 while it does not on W8).

Peter


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: PeterSt on February 14, 2013, 04:39:28 pm
PS: I really need the answer about using the normal Metro desktop and whether that helps. So, shut off Remaining Services BUT don't use the W7 shell (just switch to the w* shell).


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: soundgals on February 14, 2013, 04:45:07 pm
No virus scanner on either. About to try with Metro.


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: soundgals on February 14, 2013, 05:01:28 pm
It's happening with Metro as well. In fact that's where I first experienced the crash, before I installed the W7 shell program.

Could you provide a list of those services so I can try shutting each one down manually, in an attempt to find the cuplrit?

Well I know the culprit is you!! Ha, ha.

 ;)


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: PeterSt on February 14, 2013, 06:01:50 pm
But Geoff, it is always me !

This wil me more difficult to solve. I will send you an email ...

Peter


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: soundgals on February 15, 2013, 07:46:17 pm
Solved by Peter identifying all the processes and services which might need to be kept on my machine. Now I just have to do some more testing to get these down to the minimum. (Hopefully just one)

Thanks again Peter.


Title: Re: W8 crash on unattended
Post by: PeterSt on February 15, 2013, 08:15:01 pm
Thanks for the feedback Geoff.

And for others with W8 on Mac / Bootcamp :
This works, but in a next version this will be official.
If meanwhile someone has a problem with this please let it know so I can help out.

Peter