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166  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: How to get 24/96 from a DVD ? on: March 07, 2008, 10:17:50 pm
It does !
Now Nightfly, soon Zep in 24/48

Thanks

will test 16 against 24 later and tell you about it. Thought that it allready was better with 24. Will test a bit more.

Great Friday night for this nightfly !
167  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: How to get 24/96 from a DVD ? on: March 07, 2008, 08:38:08 pm
Well for the sole reason that it is closer to or even equal to the SQ level that it was recorded on. So no downsampling etc, well I think that should appeal to you strongly.
I made a blooper however with my remarks and claims about 24/48 material. As you said it won't play. I confused the albums I compared.
So my remark about hirez sounding better (to me) than 16/44 only applies to the 24/96 stuff. For now.

The iTrax and Linn material I can not compare to other digital formats of the same because I only have it in hirez. But it sure is nice with the iTrax being more in my taste re musical style.

Leo
168  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: How to get 24/96 from a DVD ? on: March 07, 2008, 07:54:06 pm
I agree with Russ 100 %. Peter replace DVD with CD in your post. Using XX for DVD, it is exactly the same: replace optical storage with harddisk and memory.

I really laughed reading you talking about dedicated boxes'
169  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: How to get 24/96 from a DVD ? on: March 06, 2008, 05:19:31 pm
I don't understand your remark on the 48 not being 24 bit for Input.
Yesterday I listened to Nightfly by Doald Fagen which is 48 kHz and 24 bits according to the rip software. It played through XX and my system. And it did sound better than the CD version of same.
The other two albums in the box are 24/96.

I would like a PCM solution with the computer (XX plus) doing the distribution to the 5.1 DAC's. Perhaps even with digital crossovers. Even more Dacs ! (I sure hope Bert is not looking at this post Happy )
 
170  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: How to get 24/96 from a DVD ? on: March 06, 2008, 12:10:17 pm
It is indeed the Fagen box set. I find (but Dr. Placebo may be doing his bias-trick) that it is quite a step up in SQ. More 'layers' in the bass , more room around instruments, even more complex parts I can follow with ease.
And of course with XX the hirez 24/96 material brings much more joy than through my modified Oppo 981 multiplayer.  I will definitely extract more audio from dvd.Tomorrow I will look at 24/48 material from de Led Zep live box.
DVD  takes more time than CD's ,  no database with track info like EAC, and of course it eats up diskspace. But so far, I am very happy with it.
So a multichannel XX would be a nice step in my opinion Happy

My amplifiers. I have presently a multichannel, multiamp system for my Silver Iris and Augie speakers (Hawthorne). 16 amps in total. Tweeter and mid/bass with each a gainclone. I use the (modified) passive filters of the speakers still. The Peter Daniels group buy of a couple of years ago is the source of that. I tried different t-amp versions for that role in my system, but get back to gainclones. Less excitement but more real imho.
The hypex 400 watts (6 of those) are used for the subwoofer part below 50 hz, they do that very well. It is the old version, with the better opamp and a diy modified supply for the opamp part. I use a Behringer dcx for the subwoofer part. I will do an 'extreme' modification of a Behringer to see whether I can replace the passive filters.
But that means to lose my beloved Altman dac in the system.
I then will probably ty to get digital out from the Behringer and use more Altmans (or Twindacs).

One complaint I have to make about XX is that I now listen much longer and concentrated than before and it eats into my diy-time !
171  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: How to get 24/96 from a DVD ? on: March 05, 2008, 08:29:30 pm
Thanks very much. Works like a charm. I am now listening to de the 24/96 version of Morph the Cat by Donald Fagen. I will compare it with the cd version tonight. Both through XX of course Happy
172  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / How to get 24/96 from a DVD ? on: March 05, 2008, 09:34:25 am
For extracting CD's many people , including myself , use EAC. But what tools can I use to get good 24/96 or 24/48 stuff from DVD's into a wav or flac file.  Of course to feed it to our beloved XX. I have just bought the awesome Donald Fagen box which included four dvd's with all his material also in 24/96 stereo format. I would love to hear that through XX. Not to mention all those dvd's with great live music that I have.

173  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09.U-0a setup with external USB DAC on: February 27, 2008, 02:47:57 pm
Maybe it will be a bit clearer if you explain (a bit Happy at least) why cutting of 8 bits (from 24 to 16) will be effecting distortion when you go  to less than 48 dB attenuation.
How do you get from 8 bit to 48dB.
And  by the way, 48dB  is a lot. At least in my system it is useless re soundlevel.

How much distortion do you get when one  goes to 0dB digital and use just analogue volume with a 16 bit Dac , with 96 hZ files that is?
174  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Problems with 24/96 WAV files from the newest version on: February 26, 2008, 07:46:31 am
I can play both iTrax and Linn 24/96 files without problem with XX, but the 2L Norwegian file from the first post in this thread will not play. As Peter said.
175  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: Fireface and Altman DAC on: February 25, 2008, 08:00:14 pm
Well I tried it. With 16/44.1 files I get distortion at -54dB. When I use 24/96 files I get comparable distortion (I think, very low volume!) at -66db. The volume slider turnes red with the -54 db with 16/44.1 , probably from shame for the SQ at that setting. It stays virgin-white with the 24/96 files.

Now I am back to listening !
176  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Changewp on: February 25, 2008, 07:49:06 pm
same here

Leo
177  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: Fireface and Altman DAC on: February 25, 2008, 11:59:48 am
Hi Peter,

I missed your fast reply yesterday, among all the action at the forum. I will try this suggestion of a comparison of bitrates at the same volume, probably tonight and report back.

Even if it turns out to be only 16 bits, it still sounds very nice...

Leo
178  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: Fireface and Altman DAC on: February 24, 2008, 01:23:16 pm
Hello Peter,

M audio would not install, lousy VISA drivers, has worked before,but unreliable so. I now instead of the Fireface 400 use the Edirol firewire FA 66. Both the Edirol and the Altman have to be set manually at freq., so the DAC test with a 44.1 testfile will only give 44.1 in ther report.
But when set to 96 kHz both XX and I am happy.
I am now listening to 24/96 Acoustic guitar from iTrax through Edirol and Altman at 96kHz and it sounds better than 44.1 (I think, no direct comparison). So assuming that by 'direct' you mean instead of the fireface use another interface between PC and DAC, I think I did.
I work now with passive attenuation to be ready for 44.1 upsampled files, as you suggested. The prvious days I used the XX volume, very very nice improvement.
Looking forward to further tests and suggestions you have for me.

Leo
179  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: Fireface and Altman DAC on: February 24, 2008, 12:01:09 pm
I'll have to dig out the Maudio Transit then , instead of the Fireface. I think & hope that you underestimate mr Altman Happy
180  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Fireface and Altman DAC on: February 24, 2008, 11:15:30 am
My report on the Fireface 400 with Altman DAC

Start Audio Device Analysis Exclusive Mode support
03AFFD38

    Supported : 2|16|44100|176400|4
Not supported : 2|24|44100|264600|6
    Supported : 2|32|44100|352800|8
    Supported : 2|16|48000|192000|4
Not supported : 2|24|48000|288000|6
    Supported : 2|32|48000|384000|8
    Supported : 2|16|88200|352800|4
Not supported : 2|24|88200|529200|6
    Supported : 2|32|88200|705600|8
    Supported : 2|16|96000|384000|4
Not supported : 2|24|96000|576000|6
    Supported : 2|32|96000|768000|8
    Supported : 2|16|176400|705600|4
Not supported : 2|24|176400|1058400|6
    Supported : 2|32|176400|1411200|8
    Supported : 2|16|192000|768000|4
Not supported : 2|24|192000|1152000|6
    Supported : 2|32|192000|1536000|8


Real 24/96 files from iTrax are a delight, but upsampled 16/44.1 is not so bad either Happy

Leo
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