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Ultimate Audio Playback => XXHighEnd Support => Topic started by: boleary on June 10, 2010, 11:11:07 am



Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: boleary on June 10, 2010, 11:11:07 am
I have an album ripped about a year ago as wave files with Windows Media player (I think). In both 9zb and z1 this album trips the HDCD notice when I hit play, which is then followed by several "engine 3 stopped working errors" and lastly, a "HDCD Decoding Problem. Playback Must Stop" error. Very weird cause this is not an HDCD and no other album causes this to happen.


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: PeterSt on June 10, 2010, 11:39:20 am
Must be a coincidental detection of HDCD ...

Ok, I don't know whether this really works, but I think it should ...
In the right pane there will be an XXAnalysis.dat file, with an entry

HDCD : Yes

Edit the file and change that Yes into No and save it.
Hopefully now it doesn't see it as an HDCD encoded album anymore. But if it still does, let me know, and I should change some things.


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: boleary on June 10, 2010, 12:07:40 pm
Thanks man. The edit works.


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: boleary on June 11, 2010, 11:50:46 am
Just had another error message because an album was improperly coded as HDCD in the xxanalysis.dat file.


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: PeterSt on June 11, 2010, 11:55:52 am
Can you tell me the names of those two albums you encountered so far ?


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: boleary on June 11, 2010, 12:02:01 pm
Impossible Dream by Patty Griffin and One of the Fortunate Few by Delbert McClintin.


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: AUDIODIDAKT on June 11, 2010, 12:17:33 pm
Hi Brian,

I can confirm both albums play fine.

I am a little worried about your ripping method !
Why not use EAC ?

Roy


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: AUDIODIDAKT on June 11, 2010, 12:36:32 pm
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I am a little worried about your ripping method !
Why not use EAC ?

I think there must be another reason


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: boleary on June 11, 2010, 12:40:03 pm
Hi Roy. The albums play fine here too once I edit the analysis.dat file to say No. What I don't understand is how an album ripped as  wave files gets coded as hdcd in the analysis.dat file. In the last year, I have been secure ripping using mostly default settings of dbpower amp. Not sure EAC will make a difference?

Also I did not seem to have this problem with 9zb but don't know for sure cause I may not have played an improperly coded disc in 9zb.


Title: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: AUDIODIDAKT on June 11, 2010, 12:42:19 pm
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The albums play fine here too once I edit the analysis.dat file to say No

Yes, but they are HDCD after all......so should play as HDCD
Its not on the cover, I know

db is good ripping program too, same as EAC


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: PeterSt on June 11, 2010, 12:53:26 pm
What I don't understand is how an album ripped as wave files gets coded as hdcd in the analysis.dat file.

So, it will be the other way around (as Roy suggests) : It *is* an HDCD but the decoding goes wrong.

Now watch out : I can't be 100% sure about this without testing it myself, and it could be something else.
And so the question : Can you please FileMail me one of the tracks ?


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: boleary on June 11, 2010, 12:57:36 pm
Will do.


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: PeterSt on June 11, 2010, 12:58:55 pm
Maybe do the Patty Griffin. I think I have that one too, so I can compare them, if necessary.

Thanks !


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: PeterSt on June 11, 2010, 05:53:29 pm
Thanks for sending the file, and ... nothing wrong with it. Only with me. :cry:

Not that I noticed it before, but I think this happens when the input file is a plain .WAV file. So, it *is* an HDCD.
If you immediately press play again after the error message (leaving XXHighEnd where it is), it will work.
With Attended this is no way of working, but I guess with Unattended, there you you can press play after the error message *and* the whole album has been pre-processed (meaning : HDCD decoded in this case). Thus, when the error message is there, wait until XX vanishes, then bring it up again, click away the error message, and click play again. I didn't test it, but it should work.

In the mean time I will solve it for real.
Peter


PS: So notice : Changing that Yes into a No in the XXAnalysis.dat file is *not* the real solution, because effectively you will molest a good HDCD album into one which plays with (I think) two bits less. Nothing different from what you were used to a month ago of course, but still ... :yes:
Notice : If the above solution is too awkwardish and you still want to play the album, better set "Decode HDCD" (Settings Area) to Inactive when you want to play such an album. Then the XXAnalysis.dat file will still be right, but you just don't use it.


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: boleary on June 11, 2010, 07:35:41 pm
Thanks. I'll have a chance to get back to it, hopefully, this evening.


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: PeterSt on June 11, 2010, 08:05:24 pm
Nothing needed from your side, unless you want to play that album in HDCD. :)

But ... as always it is your WMP ripping. :yes:

Anyway, solved for the next version.

I wish you a happy hunting today, and wondered whether you ever did a job for Achmed The Dead Terrorist.
"I keell you !" ... somehow I had to think of that half an hour ago.

Haha.

http://www.google.nl/images?um=1&hl=nl&lr=&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=%22the+dead+terrorist%22+%22jeff+dunham%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&start=0


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: AUDIODIDAKT on June 11, 2010, 09:31:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47DT41m86N4

http://noolmusic.com/videos/jeff_dunham_-_you_da_ho_comedy_video.php


 :offtopic:

PS: If you watch the WK games with surround sound you wil go crazy with those vuvuzela horns, hahaha


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: boleary on June 12, 2010, 10:19:11 am
Thanks for those links, Roy. I'd never heard of Achmed before. Very funny.

Peter, glad to inspire such lofty sentiments in you. I shall spend my days thinking up new ways to torture you with the issues that arise from blazing a low to mid-fy (wishful thinking perhaps) trail through the rarefied air of XXhighend!  :)

Happy hunting indeed. The work at Guantanimo is classified.....no sh*t. Ha!


Title: Re: 0.9z-1 HDCD problem
Post by: PeterSt on June 12, 2010, 10:43:27 am
Haha, nice that it worked out. I really only wanted to point you people to Jeff Dunham by indirect means, and I thought your always intervening WMP rips might be a good hook for it. So, by no means it was my intention to get you off of that (you hear ?).

Maybe a year ago I learned about Jeff Dunham myself, my son (11) always dying of laughing looking at a guy with then this then that puppet, I'm just listening to music and the TV screen on front of me, he wearing headphones.

I saw that todays (?) Jeff Dunham shows (he must be 10 years older at least from when he started this) the puppets have so much their own character that they perform alone. So, the belly speaking "gadget" has merely disappeared, and now, for example, Achmed goes to recall courses for being a good terrorist. He is there in the room with terrorist candidates, and they have to learn good english. Of course the phrase to pronounce well is "I kill you !". But Achmed can't do it, and it remains "I keel you". By now this has become a quite often used expression towards someone who did something wrong : I keel you ! without actually telling you are going to murder the person.

If you're fed up with Achmed, you can always start looking at Bubba J and his drinking problem; No matter what the problem is, the answer is beer.
He could very well be right.

Peter