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Title: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: PeterSt on January 14, 2014, 04:58:05 pm
Hi All,

Because I didn't see a single report about it so far I just wondered whether there's anyone out there who tried Phase Alignment, and then especially with Q3,4,5 = 1,1,1.

It is to be assumed - and then with the real lower SFS settings like under 2 - that with e.g. highering the volume or another Alt- command, there will be a small little scratch in the sound. What I don't know though is whether this results in a "blob" as we know it from "wrong settings for Phase Alignment" (or the earlier versions of it).
The question seems daft, but I really can not reason out whether this will change DC Offset because I actually don't know what (very briefly - sample per sample like) stalls in there. I also can't check things with logging, because that for sure implies "blobs" because of holing back. Additionally I can't check it myself because my current setup (amp plus speakers) don't allow Phase Alignment.

So if anyone can enlighten me I would be very pleased ...
Thanks !
Peter


PS: Notice that what I like to hear best from you is : "Yeah I have those scratches/very tiny stalls, but no, no blobs are coming from that !". This would be the safest base for all, because it would testify that the lower SFS settings are harmless, while at the same time everybody will encounter the small stalls at checking out the limits.


Title: Re: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: Scroobius on January 14, 2014, 05:07:27 pm
Mmmm I will have to "pluck up courage" to try phase alignment given my history with PA. Maybe later tonight when I am feeling brave................

Paul


Title: Re: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: PeterSt on January 14, 2014, 05:17:34 pm
Nah Paul, don't do that if you don't feel comfortable with it. Let's wait for someone else who's just already using it (or tried it).

Thanks anyway !
Peter


Title: Re: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: manisandher on January 14, 2014, 06:08:26 pm
Hi Peter, I'm currently working away from home but can give it a go when I get back over the weekend.

Mani.


Title: Re: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: PeterSt on January 14, 2014, 06:23:00 pm
Hehe, I was waiting for you to be a first. But you really *never* are at home, right ?

For you too : Don't do anything you maybe don't want to do ...

Regards,
Peter


Title: Re: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: Nick on January 14, 2014, 07:21:06 pm
Hi All,

Because I didn't see a single report about it so far I just wondered whether there's anyone out there who tried Phase Alignment, and then especially with Q3,4,5 = 1,1,1.

It is to be assumed - and then with the real lower SFS settings like under 2 - that with e.g. highering the volume or another Alt- command, there will be a small little scratch in the sound. What I don't know though is whether this results in a "blob" as we know it from "wrong settings for Phase Alignment" (or the earlier versions of it).
The question seems daft, but I really can not reason out whether this will change DC Offset because I actually don't know what (very briefly - sample per sample like) stalls in there. I also can't check things with logging, because that for sure implies "blobs" because of holing back. Additionally I can't check it myself because my current setup (amp plus speakers) don't allow Phase Alignment.

So if anyone can enlighten me I would be very pleased ...
Thanks !
Peter


PS: Notice that what I like to hear best from you is : "Yeah I have those scratches/very tiny stalls, but no, no blobs are coming from that !". This would be the safest base for all, because it would testify that the lower SFS settings are harmless, while at the same time everybody will encounter the small stalls at checking out the limits.

Hi Peter,

I used phase alignment for the previous beta XX version, so the start position was to try XX V1.186 with phase alignment for both q5=1 and q5=5 settings.

With q5=1 and sfs low enough to cause short interruptions in playback I did not get any very large blob dc sounds as the playback was started, stopped at the end of a track or stuttered during playback. In each of these situations I get lightish tick (about 1/4 playback volume) momentarily which is what happened before with earlier versions of xx. Worth noting I play at -33db vol setting and with phase strength set to 1.

Just as a general comment after a long period using phase alignment with earlier xx versions for best sound quality result im finding I don't need to use it when playing in v1.186, which is really nice.

Regards,

Nick. 


Title: Re: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: Gerard on January 14, 2014, 07:45:48 pm
I tried it but i get the message that i can't use it with q5 set to 1.

Btw if PA works it can be seen on the wallpaper. But if you don't use the wallpaper it can't be seen anywhere else. Can you make something so it can be seen?

 :)


Title: Re: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: PeterSt on January 14, 2014, 08:31:41 pm
Gerard, thank you for your attempt. But just read what that message says, ok ?

Regards,
Peter


Title: Re: 1.186a - Phase Alignment, anyone ?
Post by: PeterSt on January 14, 2014, 08:32:23 pm
Hey Nick, that certainly looks like good news !
Thanks man ...
Peter