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Title: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: CoenP on August 18, 2016, 09:31:33 am
Hi Peter ea,

I've recently begun trying to take full advantage of the RAM OS disk capabilities. That is I've been booting into 10586RAM from the WIN10 TRIAL (DON'T USE) version 14333 and nothing more.
Now I am ready for MIN-OS in RAM and to achieve that I need to boot the 10586 BASE into MIN-OS. However for some strange reason I always end up back in the 14333 TRIAL version. When I try to boot into 10074 BASE I even run into an error.

I've added several screenfotos to illustrate this behavior and tried to give the pictures purposeful names.

As you can see the bootmenu of the reboot does NOT contain the 10586 BASE version that was chosen in XX before the reboot.

Does anyone recognize this behavior and what can I do about it?

regards, Coen


 


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 18, 2016, 09:38:48 am
Coen - I did not read your text yet ... is it possible to make those screenshots smaller so they fit on people's screens ?
(show them on your own screen and make a screenshot of *that* would be easiest)

Thanks,
Peter


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: CoenP on August 18, 2016, 09:40:14 am
Coen - I did not read your text yet ... is it possible to make those screenshots smaller so they fit on people's screens ?
(show them on your own screen and make a screenshot of *that* would be easiest)

Thanks,
Peter

I'm working on that!

-update: and finished. I hope the resolution is enough-

regards, Coen


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 18, 2016, 09:54:47 am
Now let's see ...
(:wacko:)

To start with the last (blue) screen ... that is because that OS has expired. Set the system date to Sept. 2, 2015 for that. Then this will work.

Now for the real stuff ...


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 18, 2016, 09:58:16 am
If I understood well (by some PM you sent me), the problem emerged from abusively booting 14388 into MinOS. Or maybe you weren't sure about that, but anyway it could be a good reason because at least that is not any scenario to apply (TRIAL - Do not use etc. blah).

Whether this knowledge helps us, I don't know. But it is always good to find causes for a next time.

Can you by now confirm that this happened (be in 13488 TRIAL and go to MinOS from there) ?


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 18, 2016, 10:02:30 am
Talking to myself (and for later reference only) :

I have had similar recently, and I am almost sure it happened at setting up this TRIAL OS (143xx) myself. However, I also recall that I did something wrong myself, so I did not put real attention to it.
Additionally, quite some people by now have performed this 10565 -> 14388 upgrade and no complaints so far from anyone else.
Still I had similar ...

I solved that by means of manually adjusting things in the BCD Store, but in aftermath I think it can be done differently. I will try to work that out in the next post(s), if you, Coen, bear with me to try those things. Maybe to no avail ...


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: CoenP on August 18, 2016, 10:21:03 am
If I understood well (by some PM you sent me), the problem emerged from abusively booting 14388 into MinOS. Or maybe you weren't sure about that, but anyway it could be a good reason because at least that is not any scenario to apply (TRIAL - Do not use etc. blah).

Whether this knowledge helps us, I don't know. But it is always good to find causes for a next time.

Can you by now confirm that this happened (be in 13488 TRIAL and go to MinOS from there) ?

It is true that I was under the impression at first that I booted into 10586. Then I went into MIN-OS and noticed after the boot that I was not in the proper OS version and rebooted immediately back into normal OS. This could have caused the problem, however I have no reference for this behavior, because it was the first time I tried to boot into a BASE version in order to MIN-OS it.

regards, Coen


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 18, 2016, 11:13:53 am
OK, thinking outloud ...

I can try to do it in the blind, but better would be to show the log after choosing Stop-RightClick - Boot Into.
No need to switch on the logging.

Thus :
Start XXHighEnd (maybe it is best to be in 10388 following the attempt to boot into 10586.0 BASE);
Stop-RightClick - Boot Into;
Grab the logging and post as attachment.

What I hope is that I recognize my own situation and from there know again what (steps) to do for real.


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: CoenP on August 18, 2016, 05:47:48 pm
We're getting all mixed up with these versions, but I followed your instructions without making the boot form 14388. Yet a selection of recent logs of the 2.xx\TemporaryData\ have been added to the zipfile that is attached.

regards, Coen


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 18, 2016, 06:47:08 pm
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a selection of recent logs

Coen, I am super sorry, but this is useless to me. Obviously I am asking for the situation, well, I asked for.
Do notice that Dates/Times don't tell a thing in this case (have a look yourself and you will understand).

Peter


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 18, 2016, 07:04:23 pm
I can imagine that you have the same problem as me ... which log file is the actual one. Well :

Quit XXHighEnd;
Delete all the log files;
Start XXHighEnd;
Stop-RightClick - Boot Into;
Grab Log File.

:)


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: CoenP on August 18, 2016, 07:19:57 pm
I can imagine that you have the same problem as me ... which log file is the actual one. Well :

Quit XXHighEnd;
Delete all the log files;
Start XXHighEnd;
Stop-RightClick - Boot Into;
Grab Log File.

:)

Great tip!

I actually found two logs in the emptied directory.

See attachment,

regards, Coen


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 19, 2016, 09:48:47 am
Hi again Coen,

I can see what is wrong in there and I can't tell how it happened. But some OS quirk.

I think we can solve it like this :


1. Boot into the 14388 (the one named "W10" by you) (you will be in that one anyway)

2. Go into XX's Boot Menu (Stop-RightClick - Boot Into).

3. Tick the checkbox in the Remove Column of W10-10565 BASE.

4. Do the same for W10-10586.0 BASE.

5. Click Apply.

6. Click Refresh.

7. Click New (also see screenshot below).

8. For Name enter W10-10565 BASE.

9. Drop down the field to the right of it and pick MyW10-10565.vhd.

10. Untick the RAM checkbox.

11. Click Apply.

12. Click Refresh and check whether your newly added W10 10565 BASE is there again.

13. Repeat steps 7 u/i 12 for W10 10586.0 BASE.


All good ?
Then boot into W10 10586.0 BASE (don't forget to click Apply after the selection of the OS). It should work again.

Regards,
Peter


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: CoenP on August 19, 2016, 05:52:03 pm
As expected this procedure worked as advertised!

Yet I forgot to uncheck the RAM box so I ended up with 3 extra 'memory' entries (for 10074, 10565 and 10586). I guess I can remove these safely since the existing ones pointed already to the proper file...

regards, Coen


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 19, 2016, 07:22:48 pm

:) :)

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Yet I forgot to uncheck the RAM box so I ended up with 3 extra 'memory' entries (for 10074, 10565 and 10586). I guess I can remove these safely since the existing ones pointed already to the proper file...

I wouldn't be too sure about that. That is, unless you named the new ones (slightly) different from the ones which already exited.
Anyway, be prepared for strangenesses, like all those RAM versions gone (just add them again) or error messages (no idea yet).
Most safe for now (listen to some music first before your weekend ends up destroyed) could be to leave them be. That is, if you can reach what you want because the menu has a limited number of entries (prone to errors when too large in the first place) or get out of sight.

Have a few drinks first ...
:prankster:
Peter




Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: CoenP on August 20, 2016, 02:29:09 pm
Have a few drinks first ...
:prankster:
Peter

FYI

After the drinks I was bald and tried the original entry to boot into 10568 RAM. All went smooth without error messages and no problems afterward booting back into the BASE version.

Booting into 10074 is however still not possible. In the boot error it says among other cryptic text "...a component has expired". I guess it has to do with the system date or something like that.

regards, Coen


Title: Re: RAM OS disk won't boot into BASE version
Post by: PeterSt on August 20, 2016, 04:02:02 pm
Hi Coen,

The number of times I told about this is countless. Last time was yesterday, IIRC in this very topic.
... No, it was per PM to you ... Or at least "also".

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I guess it has to do with the system date


Sept 2, 2015. :)

Peter