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Title: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 13, 2008, 11:02:43 pm
Hi Hybride,

I have read your post about the three PCI cards you have tried. Can't find it anymore. Nevertheless thanks for pointing it out. I alway's wondered if the EMU's mixer also is involved with the spdif output. Peter and i tried it also to get rid of that mixer but it did not work overhere. I dont have a dac yet so i play analoog to receiver. Did you tried that with the Cmedia? Than i think i will buy that card also... You said it is not to expensive.. Can you post me a link to that card and that special driver?


 :)


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: hybride on April 13, 2008, 11:20:11 pm
Gerard,

I removed the post, because i have managed to bypass the mixer with the EMU. Although i think i did.
I have made a session which directly send the input to spdif. Non of the sliders is working then anymore.
Now i'm doing listening tests. Bypassing the mixer works much better! SQ is excellent.

At this moment i prefer the SQ of the EMU instead of the cmedia. The stage with bigger and the sound seems to be a bit cleaner.
I have to do some more testing.

This is the cmedia card i use http://www.trust.com/products/product_detail.aspx?item=12950
It has optical en coaxial out. The driver you can find here: http://code.google.com/p/cmediadrivers

Are you using the EMU1212m at this moment? Maybe you can try my session.


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: PeterSt on April 13, 2008, 11:21:35 pm
Indeed it takes special skills to get normal audio out of that mixer. Personally I couldn't get any sound from the EMU carde without that mixer, and not including it.
It is a nice thing to get (Proteus) synth (MIDI) sound from it though.

Indeed it seems that hybride has deleted his post about is "second hand" EMU 1212 he bought, with too smooth sound opposed to the CMedia compatible card he uses.


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 13, 2008, 11:23:32 pm
Gerard,

I removed the post, because i have managed to bypass the mixer with the EMU. Although i think i did.
I have made a session which directly send the input to spdif. Non of the sliders is working then anymore.
Now i'm doing listening tests. Bypassing the mixer works much better! SQ is excellent.




Hybride

That's great!  :) Can that also be done direct analoog?

 :)


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: PeterSt on April 13, 2008, 11:24:01 pm
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I removed the post, because i have managed to bypass the mixer with the EMU.

Ah ! How ? how ! how ?!

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SQ is excellent.

But not better than the CMedia I suppose ? :smirk:
:)


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: hybride on April 13, 2008, 11:33:51 pm
Well, it's quit easy..

Create a new session and create a 'send' within that session. Point the output to SPDIF.
Thats it. What i did wrong was creating a 'send' in the mixer instead of in the session.
Is this new for you guys? 


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 13, 2008, 11:37:04 pm
Well, it's quit easy..

Create a new session and create a 'send' within that session. Point the output to SPDIF.
Thats it. What i did wrong was creating a 'send' in the mixer instead of in the session.
Is this new for you guys? 


So you can check analoog than? can't wait until i get home.... Night shift up to 06.00   :(

Thanx for this!!


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: hybride on April 13, 2008, 11:40:01 pm

But not better than the CMedia I suppose ? :smirk:
:)

Well yes actually! In the post i deleted (sorry) i mentioned that the EMU sounded softer and warmer. But that was because of the mixer involved.
Now without mixer (ahum. i think so) The depth is now equal to the cmedia/dogber, but the EMU has more stage, seems cleaner.


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 13, 2008, 11:40:48 pm
Hybride,

I was thinking can you play double? I cannot anymore since the official Vista driver.. V200

 :unsure:


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 13, 2008, 11:41:44 pm

But not better than the CMedia I suppose ? :smirk:
:)

Well yes actually! In the post i deleted (sorry) i mentioned that the EMU sounded softer and warmer. But that was because of the mixer involved.
Now without mixer (ahum. i think so) The depth is now equal to the cmedia/dogber, but the EMU has more stage, seems cleaner.


So i bought something good than! :) :) :)


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: PeterSt on April 13, 2008, 11:48:11 pm
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Is this new for you guys?

We didn't read tfm.
At least I am not into manuals. No time you know. :swoon:
:fool:


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: hybride on April 13, 2008, 11:51:15 pm

That's great!  :) Can that also be done direct analoog?


I don't know Gerard, but i think that is not possible, because analog out is not a 'physical output'

update.. i checked. you can point it to 'Wave L/R host' if you are lucky thats direct analog out.


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 13, 2008, 11:54:30 pm

That's great!  :) Can that also be done direct analoog?


I don't know Gerard, but i think that is not possible, because analog out is not a 'physical output'

Oh  :( Haha

 :) :)


Well than i wait until the dac has arrived  :)


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: hybride on April 13, 2008, 11:55:37 pm
Gerard read my update in the previous post..


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 13, 2008, 11:58:20 pm
Gerard read my update in the previous post..

Thats the analoog indeed....  :)

Feel a bit sick.... Must go home...  ;)

 :)


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: PeterSt on April 14, 2008, 12:00:29 am
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update.. i checked. you can point it to 'Wave L/R host' if you are lucky thats direct analog out.

All that remains is finding the proper cable (pair) belonging to that. :1eye:


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: PeterSt on April 14, 2008, 12:01:26 am
Feel a bit sick.... Must go home...  ;)

:rofl:



Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 14, 2008, 03:54:26 am
[All that remains is finding the proper cable (pair) belonging to that. :1eye:

Any idea???

 :)


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: Gerard on April 14, 2008, 11:08:14 am

That's great!  :) Can that also be done direct analoog?


I don't know Gerard, but i think that is not possible, because analog out is not a 'physical output'

update.. i checked. you can point it to 'Wave L/R host' if you are lucky thats direct analog out.

Hybride,

 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:

Sound has become a few steps forward like you said.... Even analoog!!!! More stage and cleaner are the right words. There is air in the sound!!

I am a happy man.....

And a few hours alone for myself....  :)

Again thanxxx


Title: Re: PCI card SPDIF output
Post by: hybride on April 14, 2008, 02:09:45 pm
Hybride,

 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:

Sound has become a few steps forward like you said.... Even analoog!!!! More stage and cleaner are the right words. There is air in the sound!!

I am a happy man.....

And a few hours alone for myself....  :)

Again thanxxx

Great to hear!

Another thing i like about this is that we both experience the same effects changes in SQ!