Yep folks. To try to explain a little clearer: It's the difference between what's my soundcard is putting out (f.ex. 88.2) and what XX is trying to play back (f.ex. 44Khz with or without double etc.).

Problems occur (as mentioned) when I locks the soundcard at f.ex. 96Khz when playing back 44Khz material either normal or with double or upsampling. Then something ugly happens up in the tweeter-region.

And in my case it's also better to lock the soundcard at 88Khz instead of letting XX handle the auto-upgrade to 88 when selecting double or upsamp. It plain sounds better. Don't know why.

Clearer?

Came over a more seldom played recording of mine yesterday of Andreas Wollenweider - The Essential Andreas Wollenweider.

The interesting part is in the beginning of track 1 there's some girls giggling around the stage and at one point there's one girl besides each of your ears giggling away.

Nice effect.

Peter and Mani: Can't wait to hear the pre-processed upsampling routines! Maybe more of the "warm" and "more organic flow" will come forth, but my latest listening also confirms a pretty nice sound p.t.

Hey guys, maybe this latest combination of measurements of the digital outputs combined with listening is the right way forward. As you said Peter, the amount of code starts to get big with only listening as an correction method.

    

Nah, I wish - but not a good cognac in sight...maybe intoxicated on music, had this "just one more CD" train going through XX - not hitting the sack until 6.00...yuck...tired today.

Anybody who's hearing a balance shift to the left side, e.g. less volum/level at the right side? Or is it my slight nosecold who's the culprit?

Ok, just wanted to say that as of now, with the SQ I have from XX and the promises from Peter about even better SQ in the future, I will NEVER buy another discplayer. End of story.

Of course, I forsee a lot of possibilities for better SQ as of this version (6) but we're definitely on the right track.

 

Feel free to copy me! 

Hey, it's not only me who's up at 03:30 in the morning! Cool... 

The 96Khz setting for my SC: When set to 96Khz and using double/upsampl, the DAC shows 96Khz when playing back 16/44 material. What happens is that 44 material is played back at 48 or 96hz depending on double or not. And you're right: it doesn't sound good, especially in the high freq.

But I also have better SQ steering the SC to 88Khz setting instead of letting XX upping from 44 to 88 automatically when using double/upsampl. God figure why...some of the "impact" gets lost if XX does it automatically.

Btw., not hearing much difference between only double or together with upsample. Earlier versions had more difference on this.

Ok, have been playing with version 6 for some hours here now. Preliminary results, in MY system, with MY DAC.

Bass goes deeper with more impact down low (sub-regions) when I use both upsamp and double together, xx is set for 32/96 DAC. More physical bass deep down. In this case I also set my soundcards S/PDif to 88Khz for best "impact". Sound is clear, detailed and separated around each instrument, maybe too clear and detailed? Hmm. Difficult to say, but the better bass complements it well. Very wide soundstage, don't stop until it reaches my sidewalls.

Same settings but with the sound card set to 96Khz gives a kind of "ringing" in the high frequencies, a lot of SSSS-sounds in the treble etc. Not good.

Setting the SC to 44Khz, XX to 16/44 for DAC and turning off double and upsamp, gives a somewhat "kinder" and "round" sound, a little more "warm", not so much impact in the real deep bass, and a somewhat "simpler" image, not so much air on the stage. The bass impact seems to have moved to around 50-100hz up from deep down. The image seems a little more truncated against the middle of the stage and is limited sideways to the physical location of my speakers.

All of this is with different 16/44 material but using Fourplay-Journey-Play Around It for some detail comparisons more than other tunes.
 

Yep, me too. Have gotten so used to DoubleOn, UpsampOn that going back to vanilla 44/16 has been quite a chore...

Awaiting version 6 with anticipation.

As there's more and more talk of room-correction, active speakers etc. etc. on the web these days, could it be interesting implementing a digital EQ in XX for correcting the frequency curve in the player? Not with any measurement input, but just a digital EQ with On/Off possibility in addition to 8-12 bands?

Any hope? 

The dreaded fubar/foobar (!) has this as I remember... 

Yep, 24/96 through coax should work, but not through USB.

Hmmm, actually, this starts to sound like maybe the phase is reversed in XX?

Peter, what have I told you about drinking and coding at the same time... 

Also: have set the volume slider at 0 db (not using it). Sounds as the new u-4 version is lower in volume, not much but some.

Have to up my volume a couple of clicks on the preamp to "perceive" the same amount of detail in the music.

Also: seems to play back higher frequenies with more level/energy than before - not good.

As you have stated that files from 2l.no is coded wrongly, I wondered if you have a link for me so I can test 24/96 material?

Most free files from e.g. Linn is only 24/48 or 16/48.

Wonder if XX->my DAC is really capable of reproducing 24/96 at the moment. And yes, the DAC itself is capable of 192/24, the soundcard only delivers 96/24.

But I can only make XX reproduce hissing when trying to play back e.g. 24/48 or 24/96 material (something that WMP 11 can do with no problem whatsoever) and my DAC connects with that datastream without problems.

Link anyone?