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1  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Windows 11 ? on: May 19, 2023, 03:01:00 pm
Hey Hey Telstar,

All beyond 14393.0 (W10) is a dead end. This is mainly because I can't keep on "trying" for any new version to get it going. This with also the prospectus that the newer sound worse.
Together with this, 14393.0 is still as good as it ever was, so there is just no need.

Oh, I see.
I'll try to boot the old OS with the new hardware (intel to intel works 99% times), get 14392 to do an upgrade install on it. Also upgrade xxhighend to 2.2 with the update installer.

Will I need to reactivate it?
2  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: Silverstone card on: May 17, 2023, 04:32:14 pm
Oh I did that and preferred the Renesas USB3 addin card.

On the new pc i will try using a usb3 port first.
3  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Windows 11 ? on: May 16, 2023, 11:09:46 pm
Hello Peter,

Loong time not being here, I was just using the same setup for years.
Now having upgraded my main computer I have leftover parts which should be good for the music pc (9900k 8C/16T to be underclocked and undervolted, 64GB of ddr4, one small sata ssd for OS, M2 ssd for the library).

I have already done a clean w11 install to use there, but... I see that w10 is still the preferred OS for xxhighend. What should I do? I'd like to try it on this OS since it's already installed and stable.

I guess I will also have to ask you for a new activation code soon, I guess.
4  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 04, 2018, 05:07:37 pm
But no literal "error" text ?
I like to find this error message in the code ...

and I'd like to not see these OOM popups anymore.  Wink
Not even talking about what caused the screech.
5  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 03, 2018, 09:28:26 pm
I don't use RAM-OS, so I don't think I deployed virtual memory, not that I know of anyway.
ZH

Your PC is more similar to mine than Peter's Wink
6  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 03, 2018, 08:08:45 pm
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“MemOrg error 02”.

Maybe this is not 100% exact ?
I can't find this particular error (text).

I remember I also got "MemOrg #2" message when I was still on 2.08d trying to use 5.19 and Straight Contiguous together. I could cured this issue by using 5.19 and "Mixed" or "Contiguous Mixed" combos. All this went away after installing 2.10. Happy

ZH

I was using SFS 2.19 mixed contiguous on v2.08, tried also 10.19 and never got that erro before.
It's definitely something related to memory physical AND virtual.
Have you changed your virtual memory (swap file) perhaps?
7  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 03, 2018, 05:19:11 pm
But can I incur for that too ? How ?
I promise I will put my amps off. Happy

After that error, i got a similar one, then closed xxhe and decided to restart the PC. I didn't turn my amps off nor change dac input, because I have been trouble free for very long time.
Not yesterday. It emitted a screeching sound until i could switchoff the DAC. It hurt my ears and my cats' for 2 hours. Luckily the speakers weren't damaged.

Moreover, after such restart it was impossible to login from the local PC, got a black screen with mouse pointer. Powered off a minute and back on, same thing. It somehow corrupted something in Windows.
I could log with RDC, so I did and removed minOS from there. At reboot I could log from the PC locally, but (another bug for ya) Windows was deactivated.
I could restore my own point which was just before the one created by xxhe, and everything seems back as it was, including OOM errors (attended, 8GB+16GB virtual memory). Garbage collect off to prevent some sh*t like that from happening again.

Conclusion: I'm not going to try minOS anymore. I was quite happy with it until that happened.

And the OOM errors happens only with normal OS at attended. So, I'm asking you to test that. Locally or RDC is the same thing, RDC being worse. I think that the amount of memory of your PC doesn't make a difference, the cores dunno.
PS: the big virtual memory could be related to the strange error before the screech, and/or with garbage collecting so I think you should setup virtual memory = 2x physical RAM too.
8  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 02, 2018, 07:58:44 pm
I better don't tell what happened next. My ears still hurt.  scare
9  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 02, 2018, 06:52:03 pm
https://s18.postimg.org/927w17yhl/3_BA8_AC04-_F2_A4-4246-86_D8-_D42_C23_B3_FDDB.jpg
10  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 02, 2018, 06:51:01 pm
I must have copied wrong. Was dealing with my cat at the same time.
Anyway, the window error also said to disable garbage collection if that happened again. It happened twice in a riw, so I did.

Now, i put gc on again and the error didn’t reappear, but I got this (photo attached)
11  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 02, 2018, 05:43:51 pm
Twice the internal memory size is "normal".
I thought you had more than 4GB of memory by now ?

Yes, I have 8GB now, but virtual memory was left at 4GB.
With 16GB virtual memory I cannot use garbage collect anymore it seems.
Restarted, new album and same error.
What should I do? Try 8 GB or go without GC?
12  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 02, 2018, 05:33:59 pm
cr*p, it just gave me a “MemOrg error 02”.
I’m going to shut down and restart the pc now. Also I’ll clean the playlist and load a new one.
13  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 02, 2018, 05:29:02 pm
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Peter let me know your opinion on the two options I'm considering for playback

Telstar, my only option would be to have it 100% error free first and then see further (it will also determine possibilities).

Agreed!
So RDC stable playback as first goal.

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On a side note : that out of memory can virtually only come from the OS Disk.
Do you have your Virtual Memory on for Drive C: (OS Disk) ?
"We guys" mostly have it Off but we also have 16GB or 32GB of memory. You should really have it On (RightClick MyPC, Properties, Advanced, Advanced tab, Settings in the first section.

Peter

Going to check. I think I put 4GB, as I usually keep it same size as RAM. Yes, it was 4GB.
Changed to 16GB and restarting.
14  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Trying w10 on my old PC on: April 02, 2018, 05:00:48 pm
Disk checked: I have 400GB free, so that's definitely not the cause.
So far no errors today....

Peter let me know your opinion on the two options I'm considering for playback (small ramdrive or dedicated ssd).
Third option: usung straight contiguous instead (if i can).
15  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: NAS on: April 02, 2018, 04:44:37 pm
The NAS needs a powerful CPU to stream highres, which most cheap 2 and 4 way models don't have. Google for those capable of running Roon core - those are powerful enough.

Besides that, I dont think there should be any difference in SQ from a DAS or a NAS. A disk inside the audio PC is obviously worse (but for now I'm still there).
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