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14656  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: exclude XP audio on: February 23, 2008, 07:49:45 am
It sure can work under XP, but keep in mind that you will not be able to prove that it is bit perfect. Also in XP you have the 64MB (WAV file size) limitation.

The help behind that little link in the left pane of the player shows the limitations. I hardly know them myself anymore !
14657  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09.U-0a setup with external USB DAC on: February 21, 2008, 11:56:47 pm
Ok, this is to get warmed up a bit ...

For the official reporting of Exclusive Mode what's possible, below you can see in the first attachment that HD-Audio is capable of ... well ... almost nothing. But *also* you can see that a 96/24 file must be possible to play when upsampled to 192000 with the DAC set to "Needs 24." Ok, XX can't upsample to 192000 yet. So dead end here.

The second attachment shows the FireFace800. It can do everything ...
Yea ? NO ! because it can't accept 24 bits. This is a "needs 32" device.

Then it's more complicated, because behind the Fireface is the TwinDAC+ and I can't see through the FireFace. So now I just have to know that this DAC is 96/18 max, and it needs 32 bits for it. Or anyway the Fireface arranges for that.

The third is USB Audio with the TwinDAC+ connected. Officially the TwinDAC+ can (USB connected) do what is says there. But, this is probably (already) because it's squeezed by the USB Audio driver.

Well, wackowacko

14658  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09.U-0a setup with external USB DAC on: February 21, 2008, 10:18:39 pm
Haha, thank you pedal. Nice too hear !

Right now I'm working on some "analysis" function that can summ up the possibilities of the Sound Device. I think it's almost done. Putting it up is another matter because I was also in the middle of 44.1/16 -> 24/88.2 upsampling. It's not that much work anymore, but maybe not tonight.

Happy

14659  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09.U-0a setup with external USB DAC on: February 21, 2008, 05:11:51 pm
Hi Terje,

Again thank you for your input. Also, a (late) warm welcome here ! Happy

Then, the both errors you mention, really have the file format as the cause. Both coincidentally different (WAV vs. FLAC), but anyway. BUT : I must tell you that at this moment I did not check FLAC 96/24, so that could be my bad. But I will check later today.

As I said earlier, please try to get a WAV from another source, no matter it plays in other players. The format in the file you use *is* wrong, but I could tweak it (and so far I did not spend time on that).

But if the format appears not to be wrong at all afterwards, I'm very sorry in advance, ok ?
Peter
14660  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09.U-0a setup with external USB DAC on: February 21, 2008, 12:34:03 pm
Thank you for helping Terje.

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but xxhighend does not work with 24/96.

Can you please try to indicate why this is ? it just should ... (but as you have seen things are rather confusing at this stage of time).
Also :

The picture from this post in this topic shows the normal USB Audio driver. Do you use a different one ?

Thanks,
Peter
14661  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09.U-0a setup with external USB DAC on: February 20, 2008, 11:39:47 pm
I purchased the €5.000,- Eximus 24/96 USB CD/DAC in order to play hi-rez files. very happy
Now I realize it doesn't work. Cry
Will there be more developements in this field, Peter St.?  unsure

Until it works for you. But wait a minute ...

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I am not able to play WAV 24/96. The error code is "Can't play! - Wrong Stream Status (1)".

This says the file isn't correctly organized. In the near future that will be attacked by me, but for now ... this just is so. IOW, try another (from another site !).

Peter
14662  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 20, 2008, 11:33:29 pm
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Do you refer to a previous model?

Yes. Which appears not to be true. E.g. : Version 0.9U feedback ...
14663  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Other settings with EMU1212m? on: February 20, 2008, 06:37:46 pm
For me it's confusing just the same Gerard.

When you ticked Double and it playes, you should be fine. Also, that info screen (3rd) shows the native file data.
Whether this is better for SQ is up to you. YMMV here. But you can try now ! Happy
14664  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 20, 2008, 05:25:30 pm
That you just changed the setting from more than 16 bits to 16 bits, while the system auto-unticks the either 24 or 32 which was there (the "auto" is not much clear and will change in the next version).
14665  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: USB audio interfaces and XX exclusive mode on: February 20, 2008, 05:22:11 pm
Jus (re)tested it :

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.

USB Legacy Driver (expressing as USB Audio DAC - Loudspeakers).
TwinDAC+, for USB officially cabable of 48/16 max.

14666  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Can't play with Terratec phase 24FW on: February 20, 2008, 04:21:31 pm
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Would installing the SP1 help with these errors?

Most probably not. But you can always try !

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Or I should just wait for next version?

And maybe find out that again it doesn't work ? hmm ...
But keep in mind, the uprating possibility from 44.1/16 to 88.2/24 seems important (no matter it apparently should be 96).
I say : 50% chance that I can solve it.
14667  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09.U-0a setup with external USB DAC on: February 20, 2008, 09:55:54 am
Edward,

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edit: I should also note that my M-Audio Device comes with a custom driver (does not use the Vista USB Audio driver) and therefore has it's own control panel. In that control panel I have to manually select 16 or 24 bits and 44.1 or 48 or 88.2 or 96KHz. And this is also where I select latency (the lowest which is 128). So my device is not "auto-switching".


Can you recognize what I was suggesting : that these "custom" settings are not 1:1 with what Vista shows in Properties - Advanced ?
I mean, I can just as well be wrong here, because almost every audio device that's not USB comes with its custom drivers. And they show in Properties - Advanced (as possible settings). Otoh I have the hunch it's kind of generic. For example, my Fireface shows two options in there it will never be able to play (both at 24bit-3byte options, while the Fireface can only use 24bit-4byte). And mind you, I only know this because RME was so kind to tell me. You can't see it (3byte and 4-byte options show the same).

Thanks.
14668  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Strange DAC settings on: February 20, 2008, 09:46:03 am
Peter, you told me "upsampling from 44.1/16 to 96/24 is not supported yet".
Then you also said "Strangely enough I can just Double to 88.2/24".

If I play 16/44.1 songs, I can no longer use "double" or "upsample", no matter what my "DAC needs" settings are.

Well, I said that a little differently of course :

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Strangely enough I can just Double to 88.2/24 (which I have working here now yes)

So *I* have that, you don't. Happy (yet)

That you cannot Double or Upsample at all, while before you obviously could, is the strange matter of ... well, I just thought of something ... !

Hehehe, I now realize that before, I set the appropriate settings to ask the DAC for its possibilities ... well, AFTER I ask that to the DAC (driver). This was a kind of quick-tweak to get that running a year ago. Today ... I do that as should, so I set it before asking the DAC. And there it gets rejected now ...
So it's my guess if I move *all* the settings to *after* asking the DAC, and let that asking be dummy 44.1/16, it would work.

I know, I'm talking to myself here, but I guess I just found the tweak to get things going while now they won't because of "bugs" in that part of Vista.

What I will do as well, is create an enumeration of what "your" soundcard will accept for playing. Just all the combinations it('s driver) doesn't reject, and report that. Can save you tons of time.

Peter
14669  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Can't play with Terratec phase 24FW on: February 20, 2008, 12:24:04 am
Piepjong. heat
14670  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Can't play with Terratec phase 24FW on: February 19, 2008, 11:46:02 pm
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while I play David Bowie, Rebel Rebel, a song which brings back the memory of having fun with lp's, which is really back!

Might you mean the joy of lp's themselves ... you are the first saying this. Ok, whether you meant to say this or not, this is an excerpt from the first version of the Release Notes of 0.9u-0 I never put up (didn't dare) :

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Yes. I'm serious. I can't help it. No matter what I play, no matter how loud I play it, each and every second it reminds me of vinyl. Did I want vinyl ? h*ll no. But this just does it. Is it good ? hahaha, for the matters of warmth, a kind of fuzzyness (controlled though now !), and getting there right with the musicians ... yes ! Did I plan this ? NO ! not this time. Not that.


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The 96/24 can play in exclusive mode, the 88 in shared mode.

Ah ! a piece of the puzzle. But I'm not sure yet what to make of it, Cry;
Strangely enough I can just Double to 88.2/24 (which I have working here now yes) while this option is not listed in the Vista Audio Properties - Advanced (like 88.2 is not there at all and I could use 88.2/16 always). There would be no difference with my internally "converted" file and your home brew created I'm afraid ...
Note that I will *not* resample to 96 because it won't be good enough (says me). Now what ? out of solutions ?

I said it before to weha ... go get yourself another soundcard ...


To the good stuff again :

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BTW I was thinking of better integration of the left and right channel, like before their was an option on a FM-tuner
to make the treble mono. Call it inter channel jitter-reduction.
Don't laugh to loud, hope I can give some fun back.

Happy Happy This is recognizeable all over. You are not the first who (indirectly) refers to phase changes. For me this was the first noticeable thing. I wasn't sure whether it was for better or for worse back then, but since I've been playing 0.9u for over two weeks without ever wanting to go back ... it must be a good thing. Also, once you know (or think) things about better phase integration took place, you can recognize more of it. Like I said elsewhere : it even has a high degree of better bass - mid/high integration. Or put differently : although the balance between highs and bass and everything in between seem to have changed to a large degree, nothing in my mind wants to change things. It seems there's a huge amount of headroom now on these matters ... somehow.

Someday we'll understand, and I have the hunch that I will be there to witness it.
But I'm peep of course.
swoon
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