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736  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 22, 2018, 09:39:35 am
A: B-W & Y-R, B: B-W

or

A Connector, Inner shield connected to Connector, Middle and Outer shield connected to each other but not to connector.

B Connector, Inner shield connected to Connector, Middle and Outer shield open.


737  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 22, 2018, 05:13:21 am
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and will report back in a day or 2.

Fred, that may be too long for you. Happy

Once you get the hang of it, you may right away jump on the next step, which is my current (still in my sig at this moment) :

A: B-W & Y-R, B: B-W

To materialize it, I will make a picture of this setting later today.

Peter
738  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 22, 2018, 05:04:38 am
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but I do think there is noticeable increase in bass response of my system.

So Fred, thus you do hear a noticable difference. Happy

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Any chance you can post actual photos (instead of drawings) of both ends as you have them configured?

I have no spare cables right at this moment, and my own is configured as in my previous post plus it is a bit dark here (5 am), it is connected in my system and ... why actually ?

Let's say that I wrote this to you for an easy start :

You can start with connecting B to W at both ends. Now you have the normal Lush. But it may sound different.
The jumpers can be put to the free pins (both sides) to avoid shortcutting with anything.


Then you'd take one end, and put the Black wire to the pin with the red dot. The White wire you put on the pin right next to it. On the 4 remaining pins you'd put the two jumpers (to prevent shortcutting with anything. The Yellow and Red wires would stay loose.
On the other end you'd do exactly the same.

Of course you can make a photo and I can confirm whether you did it correctly. But you will have ...

Regards,
Peter

PS: Like this, but pull off the Yellow and Red and put a jumber at that position(s) instead. Apply it to the B connector the very same.
739  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: Enjoy it! on: August 20, 2018, 07:57:50 pm
Henk, what a great finding that is.
If this doesn't show the merits of a playback system, then I don't know (for me it is the all over electric butterfly thing, at this moment (combination of Stealth III and Lush^2, I'd say)).

Regards and thanks,
Peter
740  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 20, 2018, 05:53:34 pm
All,

I just put this in my signature :

Lush^2 A: B-W & Y-R, B: B-W

It means that

for connctor A the Black and White wires are connected (inner shield connected to the connector) and that the Yellow and Red wires are connected (middle and outer shield are connected but are not connected to the connector);

for connector B the Black and White wires are connected (inner shield connected to the connector) - and that is all (middle and outer shield are open).

The completely changes the sound from a somewhat congested (too white) highs to ever so lasting colored cymbals. Btw, this is what I had in mind with it for a change (I found the highs too profound).
What came with it is a super fluid/liquid bass which sings and plays music. I actually never experienced the bass like that.

Side note : this was a one-go change and immediately it worked for the so much better. The very first thing you will notice is the bass.

Because all is more liquid, the over-emphasized "electric butterflies" lessened (with which I am OK with) but what's occurring foremost is the so great emphasis on the snare drum. Don't ask me how that happened ...
First off its sound comes along with the cymbals now rendering much better, and with that the snare can be hit hard while it sounds superb (no distortion, no harshness, full of "shell"). And well, while I say "hit" hard, I better make that "now sounds loud". It is as if each drummer is now sort of slamming the snare, which in all honesty, always is profound in real life. It is just that I think that with music reproduction we are not used to it much. Because of this, each tempo (like up-beat etc.) becomes more profound and lets you go with the music super easy.

Apologies fo an again strange and new-ish description of sound, but I guess new universes incur for that ?

Regards,
Peter


741  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd PC / Re: Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear Power Supply on: August 19, 2018, 08:58:00 pm
I started to listen with the though "I must post something on the forum about the sound" when a very strange thing happened.

Man, I read this this morning with pleasure and real interest. I thought of the psychology in order ...
And then this happened to me tonight. Never ever happened in say 12 x 350 (years) listening sessions :

I forgot to turn up the volume after 20 minutes or so, knowing about all needs to warm up (what only happens at real playback).
I just for-got.
But so intrigued I was/am with the new sound. Of course I also have the Mach III and this surely is crucial, but in my case I continued a new Lush^2 setting I tried yesterday late.
heatheat

Btw, I don't think this is related to "not necessary to play ouder" as such. It is just the psyche and my focus on whatever all happens, that I forgot to do it.
Feels a bit similar to your experience, Ramesh. That's why I post this.

Great(est) stuff.
... which btw lets us look deeper into the infinite possibilities of audio in general, with the Mach III as a base, but maybe the Lush^2 of equally importance ?

Thank you, Ramesh.
Peter
742  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / MOVED: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 18, 2018, 04:42:09 pm
This topic has been moved to Cables (Community induced).

http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=4071.0
743  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 18, 2018, 04:02:29 pm
Hi again all,

This could be a special notice to all people we dear, and it tells you not to be disappointed if soon you need to wait literally months before we could produce your Lush^2. And, while I could say "4 weeks" at some stage, this may be extended to 8 weeks on the fly. How does this work ?

First off, like with the original Lush, the Lush^2 is not made to stock. With the original Lush we were always able to keep up (somehow) and to be honest only the past 3-4 months or so we could finally produce a few for stock. But, this only told us that we could readily ship instead of making a few quickly on an ad-hoc base. It was also good because in the same period the Mach III PC emerged, and that too consumes time, obviously.

Secondly, while the customer base of the Lush^1 slowly but steadily grew over the past year, this stream of orders now will stop and will continue in the Lush^2. This implies just the normal workload. But where it really impacts is the old customer base which may (will ?) order the new Lush^2, with 100s at a time, if they only learn the news that it exists.

On the particular webshop page we now maintain a prediction of the lead time (see bottom of the page). This incorporates current Lush^2 orders, but it also will incorporate all other orders like for the Mach III with the clear notice that such orders will have prevalence for the simple reason of the Lush^2 being there to stay, while a PC topology will be obsolete in 2-3 years of time. So in the end it is not allowed to tell a customer to wait for 2 months for his Stealth III because we are making Lush cables.

Moral : you obviously are allowed to wait as long as you deem OK, but please never complain that you are waiting forever for your Lush^2 to arrive. I say this, because this really happened more than once and towards each such beloved customer it seems to require justification how we, for example, went out for holidays instead of working on the product. So Yes, we are all a bit obsessed. Well, don't miss out ?
So the latter is all this post is about, maybe foreseeing a larger flood of orders. If you can bear the wait, all is fine !

Best regards,
Peter

744  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 18, 2018, 06:49:09 am
Hi there Tim - welcome here and thank you for sharing that.

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or did you find that with all the many permutations/setups available with Lush^2 that some did not suit your hifi setup and SQ was degraded as compared to using the Lush mk1?

For 100% sure, that. And mind you, I can't tell at all yet the chance of running into a wrong(ly sounding) configuration but I am pretty sure that where "a" config can work out for the better, the other may just as well work out for the worse;
As I said earlier on, the original Lush has been set up for a technically balanced situation (which was subjective to our ears over here) and all what's done to it would theoretically shift that balance to ...
Yes, to what. To the better because that was still possible or to the worse. So if we recall how I described in the first page(s) of the original Lush that it required 5 or 6 attempts to find the proper direction of that same balance we are taking about, then you can just as well interpret that as "more or less shielding". Well, sort of, because it is about more or less dieletric (behavior). Thus envision, you make one cable (which includes buying material - wrong. A next one - wrong. A next - hmm. A next, yes, better. A next - bingo ! Meanwgile though you're weeks further and you don't like to overdo it, which also incorporates the "step size". IOW, there you give up because it is good enough.

The JSSG 360 tweaks are, if you ask me, just luck (plus we don't know of each other what "better" actually means because to an extent we're all subjective listeners, right ?).

The Lush^2 will and can not work out the same as you guys' tweaks because you won't be using the same materials, and might you coincidentally do use the same materials, the chance is virtually zero that you apply the same thickness hence tightness. Everybody will be doing this differently which already is caused by - a supposedly same - metal braid but which the one stretches more than the other, once it is around the cable. This already affects the shielding (such a shield is always expressed in a percentage of surface covering, like 90% (you can still see through it) or 100% (all just closed) or 110% (it overlaps partly) etc. but also the working (the work out) of the dielectric.
And FYI what we (Phasure) additionally add is the "crossing" of the fields the schield implies (or prevents).
Obviously the Lush^2 is already totally different because the dielectric is controlled (is under our control) while all you people can do is wrap a couple of layers around the original dielectric, not even thinking about its effects. We, thus, start at the core of the cable, give it it's first new metal shield (of certain (controlled) "airines" for tightness plus also coverage (the mentioned 90, 100, 110%), put an isolation layer around that which is even more important (because it is really part of the dielectric), have a next layer of "metal braid" again, isolate that again because we feel it is a good thing for the dielectric and which you people will not have applied, to lastly put the yello sleeve as we know it over the lot.
And you know what ? now the Lush^2 is more flexible than the original Lush while the original is actually for 100% there regarding the (amount of) material used.

My previous post told about the same config (for conections) as the JSSG 360 and that sounding vastly superior to anything else for normal Lush and the few (I think 2 only !) other combinations I tried for the Lush^2. And again, I just stopped there because it is too hard to interrupt your playback session of the day to try something better while it just went "10x" better, plus a next day you long for that sound again thus again you won't tweak. Right ? Will I ever try an other config ? of course - and probably when something starts to annoy me and I think it could be improved on. And as you already know Tim, the "config" makes or breaks it and the least what will happen is that it will sound "different".

In an attempt to answer your question better : what sounded "a best" for the particular Audio PC and *its* configuration - like for a 14/28 core processor (as how we refer to them for the Mach III PC) set to 10/20 cores - and which was the Lush^2 fully serially connected (see very first diagram in the first post), does not sound good at all in the native 10/20 core processor setup. So this varies per PC (in this case per processor because the PC is 100% the same otherwise) and this is exactlt what can be expected from a shielding setup. Thus, whether it is the shield config which prevents PC noise to enter the signal wire, or whether it is the USB cable which radiates and the shielding setup prevents influence on to other components ... the former is the most likely because what we'll change with the different processor setups is different radiation from the processors (and maybe more, up to in the motherboard).
heat
Conclusion : what sounds best of another person, may not sound the best for you. And not because of your ears but because of what the environment (mainly the PC) depicts.

And the fun of the Lush^2 should be that you can control it.

Kind regards,
Peter

PS: I'd find it hard to believe that this shielding itself requires burn in. So the "signalling" part of your Lush did not change (this is plus data, minus data, ground, and 5V if you use that) and only whe the shield carries current, burn in could be in order. Does it carry current ? It should not because it isn't connected (see yellow and red lines in the picture of my previous post). But I can't be definitive because I can't tell what forces are at play, also thinking of micro level stuff we may not even know about. I mean, who would have guessed a few months ago that stupid shielding would "make" the sound of a USB cable, which USB cable in itself already shouldn't even be able to influence the sound at all. But as we know ...  innocent
(we don't know much)
745  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 17, 2018, 04:13:04 pm

All,

My post from yesterday was about so much raving, that I didn't know what to actually say, but this :

OK, I don't believe what I'm hearing.

For background maybe - My Lush^2 has been broken in for a first few days and I didn't even saw that coming. Also, my mentioned "prototype" was a tweak of my by now 15 or so months old Lush^1, which was for the purpose of being broken in already. At least that is how it is in my mind. Otherwise ? otherwise I completely forgot about the new Lush^2 I am using now and that this indeed could use some breaking in.

Actually day before yesterday I already had something of a "wow, what's next then ?!?", but yesterday ... no words.
Really, I can not find words any more for what this all does. One thing I am sure about : this officual Lush^2 must be way way better (working out) than the tweaked ones, or otherwise I'd hear similar raving expressions from others, but then in English people know for it. I just can't.

Yesterday something like "eletric butterflies" came to my mind, but then of a faster type - maybe mots. So the "shattering" I have been talking about regarding the Mach III is now that, but 10 fold. The mid detail is now so stupidly enormous that it is sheer impossible that it hadn't been there before. It is too loud to miss, so to speak.

It is now not spooky any more, but completely "impossible". Still it exists. It is right here and everywhere (around me). Together with that, it is all so "mild" regarding possible hurting ears stuff. Nothing hurts. All is mighty interesting.

Interesting is just the same how on earth this can exist for a digital (USB) cable which already was superb in mysterious ways of course (but at least I "did" that explicitly), this now hugely superceded by means of a couple of specially connected shields. This I did NOT work on for design as such, unless it is about the design on the possibilities itself (the way they can connect).

For now and for those who want a start :
My Lush^2 in its IIRC 2nd attempt of connecting, is connected exactly the way the JSSG phenomenon proposes :
Inner shield connected from front to end (connectors); the middel and outer shield connected in parallel, those not connected to the connectors. See below (and those already possessing one, will understand the schematic and how to connect).

Peter
746  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 16, 2018, 10:16:03 pm

OK, I don't believe what I'm hearing.
747  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 16, 2018, 05:06:45 am
Hi Mani,

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Don't look forward to trying all (or even a fraction of) the combinations though

I guess we'll help each other a bit with it.
The first has arrived by now (yesterday), a few more will today and again a few more tomorrow.
I am planning to make a kind of experience schematic (and of course I already forgot half of it by now).

Thank you Mani,
Peter
748  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 14, 2018, 05:22:33 pm

Hmm ... I just realized that I didn't even show a photo of the Lush^2.fool
So it's in the first post now.

Peter
749  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2) on: August 13, 2018, 07:24:04 pm

Michel, might you wonder where your post (and mine) went ... : Re: Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear Power Supply.

Peter
750  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd PC / Re: Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear Power Supply on: August 13, 2018, 07:19:26 pm
All,

I'll insert a link here to the possibility of the setting of the number of Cores in the Stealth Mach III :

The greatest invention in/for Audio (Lush^2)

Over there is has been combined with the Lush^2 USB cable, but both are different subjects, though were used together to explain behavior of actually both.
I hope this keeps it clean better. Above this post I just combined with two post from over there because they really belong over here.

Thanks,
Peter
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