We still get the clarity and spaciousness?

Yes yes yes!

BTW, I just read that SP1 can be found on Pirate Bay, no idea what that is
Or did you already find it?

And did your attempt succeed?

With SP1 there is a good chance of using exclusive mode, but not now because it needs/wants/.. 24 bits.
I bought it at a internetshop in Holland, I don't know if a can name it here but it was komplett.nl.
I use engine #3 and it sounds better then my modified Rotel RCD990 cd-player (with XXHE of course)
I hope with the new XXHE revolutionary version it will sound better than my tubed recordplayer 

Hi Telstar,

I'm using a terratec phase 24FW, costed 175€.
All I could find on the internet about it was very positive. But most in German, I guess Italians can read German??
Just my 10 cents.

Did you have contact with Microsoft about this bug? I'm afraid the soundsystem is not their highest priority, and if they don't know the problem ...

I checked for the SP1 update, seems only to be a registry entry which starts windows update. Maybe somebody can give you a complete image (not me, I'm sorry for both of us, even I have a dutch vista  )

Will your revolutionary update work without exclusive mode ?????

Hi Peter,

I see this problem sometimes too.
Mostly I use attended mode to see what's happening.
It happens I think when the song has ended, but still the sliding bar is not finished, maybe still at 90%.
Looks like you do some calculation with the wrong numbers 
After a restart it's over again.

I use a program called gadwin, it is freeware and very convenient.
See gadwin.com

That's quick!


I don't know how but the soundcard plays 16 bits too. You're the expert here! Does the souncard make 24 out of 16 or is vista doing this or??

Haha,
24/192 plays. I can even recognize what song is playing!
It sounds like a cat in the dishwasher...

For exclusive mode i can set the properties on (set the checkbox to 'x'), but I when I start XX I get the message 'Device currently does not suport/allow exclusive use. It will not be bitperfect' I push OK and the music starts to play. Of course only when I set the Terratec to 44k. When I set XX to 'double' I get the message about 'Device can not be allocated because of not matching sample rate'.
When I set the device to 88k it gives the first message again and happily starts to play.
Since I can not set the bitdepth in the Terratec I think it accepts everything you put in it. When I use engine #1 and #2 there is no problem with bitdepth and samplerate.
(The screenshot with number 1 was just a test for the printscreenprogram)
I'll try to find something in 24 bits, would be fun if that works!

OK there is some consistency!
When I (re)start the laptop the samplerate is set to the one I used before I shut down.
This was 88 and I could go to the advanced settings and push the testbutton-> NO SOUND.
Then I changed the samplerate in the Terrateccontrolpanel (In windows not possible) to 96
and then there was no advanced settings but in the rightmouse-menu I could test and get a sound!
The same for 44. Then back to 88, in the advanced settings it was now possible to get a sound.
So only for 88 I get the advanced settings and can set exclusive mode on, but this is not working (24bit?).
When I change in TT-control to 44 and restart the laptop I get the advanced settingstab only for 44.
Now I have to change again before I get a testsound.

Well I hope this will give you the information to make your program perfect!
As I understand you correctly the exclusive mode will work if you output 24 bits?

As my suggestion before maybe the possibility for samplerate/bitdepth could first be implemented only for the output. I hope it is easy for you to add some bits and multiply the samplerate?

Some screenshots:

That's good to hear. Then there may be some logic to what is happening.
What I found out too was that at first (eng#3) the laptopvolumecontrol did not react, only the terratecvolume worked. After checking a half hour later the laptop/windows volume worked again.
So maybe there was something a little bit exclusive happening.(With Terratec asio drivers I get this behavior too, so maybe this is a Terratec feature?)
I'll try to do later today what you suggest.
What worked too is that if I set eng#3 to upsample I get the message about the samplerate, if I put the terratec to 88 khz I don't get the message. If I turn off the upsampling the message is back.
So there must be some communication, I dont know if I really get what I expect 44, 88 or 96 though.

About the upsampling I wondered why you put double and upsampling seperately, isn't always the combination preferable?
And maybe it is possible then to make the samplerate (and bitdepth) user-selectable?

Although it is not exclusively working all the controls work so I can test the differences, that is a big step forward!
Also it looks like the program is more stable now.

Hi Peter,

I thought I had the same problem with my Terratec phase 24FW external soundcard connected to an acer 5920g laptop.
Engine 3 on Vista gave the same two messages.
But since yesterday (9t5) I don't get the message about the samplerate anymore and it is now possible to use engine 3,
although not in exclusive mode.
Did you change the program or did I do something more or less by accident?

BTW. This is a Firewire-box and it is not possible for a program to change the samplerate. This is done in the Terratec-controlpanel.
In the vista soundproperties it says 44khz/24bits and exclusive mode allowed.
It is not in exclusive mode though.

When I was writing this message vista shut down for an automatic update and after that xx does not startup anymore.
Let me try to solve this first. Any Idea? (OK already solved, it stayed in the tray and could only be maximized)

Hello Peter,

I have a similar problem.
Activation on a second computer first says the path is OK, but ends in the message about code at target and code to target.
Is there a solution you can share here with us?