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481  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: WIN8 stops on: April 13, 2014, 11:33:47 am
I have not noticed anything unusual about the monitor in w7 or even when it does turn itself off.  The monitor that I use for the XXHE PC is shared with another computer, so more often than not I start the playlist playing and then switch the monitor to the other computer and then switch back when the music stops.

But I will take some notice in w7 next time.

Anthony
482  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: WIN8 stops on: April 13, 2014, 09:37:42 am
And still I never heard of the problem any more since 1.186. And otherwise I maybe recall one occasion. Re: WIN8 stops.

But there's also a report that it is related to the processor speed. Actually two, because in one occasion I suspected it myself. So Anthony, I am sure I ran into the thing daily when my speed was 720MHz or so. But since I run it at 430MHz never again. Back at the time I couln't make this consistent because it was always a bit waiting what would come out of the speed but since I know how to consistently do that ... maybe it is just that. So this is with the BIOS settings as described here : XXHighEnd PC BIOS Settings with the notice that origins from January 17 (so earlier than that topic) and that "weeks" before that I rean with that 430MHz already (but didn't know how to deliberately do it but friggled until it did). So if you like you can set those literal BIOS settings and see.

Another quite interesting thing would be that 1.186(a) itself did not deal with the 16 cores properly. Btw not did the previous versions. However, now it does, so now it impacts the issue ? can well be. This is how Scheme 3-5 can work out differently because this scheme works with the "first" cores which are the same as with not Hyperthreaded. 1-2 works with one of these "physical" cores while the other one is the Hyperthreaded one.
And of course, you used the lot not-Hyperthreaded (with your Xeon) because it just would not work because of this 16 core omission in the software.

All IOW, quite some things changed and actually so many (including your own settings) that it can be anything and also the combination.

Anyway I never saw the problem again since say the end of 2013, and I think the same with others (while *everybody* was suffering from it).

Now what to make of this all ...
Regards,
Peter


I will change my processor speed tomorrow and report back.
483  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: WIN8 stops on: April 13, 2014, 09:36:47 am
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I touch nothing and wait for the music to start again; when it starts again it is all static and distortion;

This one I do NOT recognize. But a hint : Try Appointment Scheme 3-5 (but if you were already using that ...)

Yes, already using that.  At the moment I am using exactly the settings in your signature Peter and I am not game to change them for now because I think that it is still hibernation related.
484  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: WIN8 stops on: April 13, 2014, 09:34:06 am

Here I am pretty confident that this is
a. caused by the similar or same phenomenon that causes the stops;
b. is the result of being over the limits on the SFS in combination with Q3,4,5 = 1 (think SFS being under 0.10).

At least this is how I recognize this.

Yes, it sounds similar just like a buffer under-run, but more like there are more gaps in the data than data making it through.  The static is prevalent and the music is just in the background.  And small pops too, not the big ones.
485  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: WIN8 stops on: April 13, 2014, 03:11:09 am
Ok.  I got the static to occur again.  It happens when the following things have happened:  restart the computer; playing a playlist and the music stops for the first time;  I touch nothing and wait for the music to start again; when it starts again it is all static and distortion; move the mouse and it comes good instantly.  Playback stops again after a few minutes but this time it stops with a slight blip of static.  I wait a few minutes and it comes back by itself all static again and I move the mouse and its sounds fine.  This is all with the display set to never turn off.

I will try now duplicate my actions to see if I can make it happen again.

EDIT:  I shut down the pc, started again, set the same playlist to play and sure enough a few minutes in the music stops.  I leave it and it restarts by itself and is playing without stop or static.
486  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: WIN8 stops on: April 13, 2014, 01:39:41 am
Sorry to drag up an old thread guys, but I am playing with w8 again after going to w7 for a while, and although I did have the 'stopping' problem earlier before I went to w7, it was easily solved by un-minimising and re-minising the o/s.  This does not work now.

I am using the same w8 installation as before but I am using a new version of XXHE (1.186d) to suit my 8-core processor.  Note that I also run 1.186d in w7 and have zero problems, so this is certainly a w8 issue.  I have gone through Coens suggestions above regarding the hibernation settings, but at no stage can I boot into w8 that does not have the stopping behaviour, so I cannot get Coens procedure to work for me. 

However, there is one observation that I have made that could be useful.  If I go into Control Panel>Power Options>Change Plan Settings and set "Turn off the display" to 1 minute, I get the stop after a few minutes of playback as usual, and I move the mouse or press a button and the music instantly starts again, but 1 minute later at exactly the time that the display is turned off the music stops again.  I have never observed this before and usually have the display set to never turn off, so this is a new behaviour for me.

Another thing that has happened a few times is that instead of the music completely stopping it gets badly distorted and sounds like good old AM radio static with a recognisable tune playing (the tune that should be playing, not something plucked from the radio waves).  This is a very weird sound but as soon as I touch the mouse or a button the sound comes good again.  Now, I do not know how to reliably duplicate this "static" because it has only happened three times, but once I do I will post back here the results.

When this stopping problem first showed up a couple of weeks ago I would just let the XXHE PC sit there and playback would automatically start again and would play for the entire day without issue even changing playlists, volumes et cetera, but as soon as I rebooted the problem would come back.  That is not the case any more.  I will change a couple of w8 power scheme settings and see if I can revert to that behaviour.

Regards,

Anthony
487  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / Re: Sound of the Orelo MKII on: April 08, 2014, 09:54:27 pm

Cymbals too sound OK, but not 100% as I have it here. Why ? not completely sure, but I think something goes wrong in the highs itself. So, listen to the hits on the snare and you can hear it. Or the roffle towards the end, where all the highs mush up. And mind you, the cymbals towards the end measured 110dB when I just played it (which is exactly right/real).


I agree about the cymbals Peter.  My thoughts were something to do with the accuracy of the microphone, especially in the highs, as well as the placement of the microphone.


Anthony, thank you. I will get the whole album of course. Just totally curious how the other tracks will sound.
Super.

Peter



It's probably just as important as the actual sound quality, but to me this album sounds like the musicians are having fun.  That's what stays with me after I have listened to it, that I have just heard a super relaxed jazz quartet that obviously play off each other and enjoy what they are doing.  You don't often get that in a studio album.  I think that is one of the first things that gets washed away when you start editing a performance.

Anthony
488  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / Re: Sound of the Orelo MKII on: April 08, 2014, 01:10:25 pm
Peter, I was hoping you read the liner notes, they also give the specs of the recording microphones which were not great in the highs.

Mani, you would not be surprised to know that this HDTT crowd think that in general DSD has a slightly better sound than PCM, which may not be surprising considering how the get the PCM.  Still though, this album is one that I use when comparing good DSD dacs to the NOS1 and the NOS1 ain't been beat yet even with this little disadvantage:  dac quality still trumps music file format.


Anthony
489  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / Re: Sound of the Orelo MKII on: April 08, 2014, 11:52:23 am
Hi Peter,

I find this a very interesting subject and am sending you my go-to drum reference track to see what you think.  If I am understanding what you mean by "sticking sticks" then this track most certainly does not have any of that and although the kick-drum is not a feature of the track I think you may find it interesting.

It is a recording made by Paul Klipsch of the Joe Holland Jazz Quartet in 1955 and recently remastered from the original 15ips 2-track Master tapes.  Apparently it is one of the first stereo recordings produced so I am interested in your opinion Peter...if they got it right almost 60years ago then why don't they get it right now? 

Ok, I know the answer to that but I still like to ask the question. Happy

Let me know what you think.

Regards,

Anthony

EDIT: For those interested I got the album from here.  It is track #11.
490  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / Re: Sound of the Orelo MKII on: April 05, 2014, 10:03:41 pm
Yes Peter, I concur with Nick.  As someone who was a firm friend to a mad drummer for much of my childhood (as well as an avid fan) I have not yet met a system that can accurately and wholly reproduce a drum kit, including its presence chest rattles and all, so all I can say is WOW.

Can't wait to hear them!

Anthony
491  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: XXHighEnd Eliminated ? on: April 02, 2014, 01:21:13 pm
I liked the fishes too...especially when I tried to put a number of other emoticons to go with the fireworks above and they would not work...but Alain has a whole school of fish waving across the screen...I was so jealous.

A
492  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: XXHighEnd Eliminated ? on: April 01, 2014, 11:09:52 pm
So ...

I have been able to find a tweak that makes XXHighEnd redundant. No influence is possible any more.
Of course because of it SQ improved vastly.

So I finally did it. But now what ?
Peter

You forgot the fanfare Peter...here you go...

 Nice  
493  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: XXHighEnd Eliminated ? on: April 01, 2014, 11:02:24 pm
Hi Alain,

It would be nice though...and it has to be possible...and it would be nice if it is Peter that finally achieves it?

I was just reading about a very fancy $50k dac with uber galvanic isolation at 38 linear regulators on-board and the guys that buy it are still playing with usb cables and different computers and software and transports.  Sigh...there has to be a better way.

Cheers,

Anthony
494  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: XXHighEnd Eliminated ? on: April 01, 2014, 10:33:31 pm
The April fools joke is making you guys think it is a joke.  Well done Peter...personally I can't wait.

Anthony
495  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: USB to PC chassis ground ? (noise) - The biggest change ever ! on: March 31, 2014, 02:29:59 am
Coen, I would bet that if you had the light on for the DC Offsets on your NOS1 you would have noticed that they were jumping around (not fixed) when the pops were happening.  I had a similar thing happen when testing my cable loom configurations (remember the flouro light sending things crazy?) and in the end I would mute the amplifiers and just look at the DC Offsets to see if my ground connections between the PC and NOS1 had been disturbed during the testing. 

I concur that it is not a nice sound, but I think that it is related to the USB lock between the computer and NOS1, although I may be wrong.

Anthony
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