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1  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: 2.09 sound quality on: November 14, 2017, 07:06:35 pm
I had chance to listen with the settings your posted Peter.

Q1 x xQ1 = 30x40.
Q3,4,5, = 1,1,1.
SFS = 20.
ClockRes = 15ms.
Custom Filter = Highest for 705600.
And just mentioning : Appointment Scheme = 3-5.
And thus OSD Text = Off. Wallpaper (front and back) On.

They have turned arround my opinion in my earlier post a couple of pages back.

I think there is defiinatly somthing good coming together with the high q1 values now that I have q3,4,5 =1, OSD text off and clock res 15ms also set. SQ is very coherent with very high detail levels and impact in highs (stength of cymbels for instance) is better. Purity of the highs could cut glass when music denands (in a good way).

Can I suggest another setting to try which is related to system overhead.

For a while I have been using windows network card interupt moderation settings to tune sound. There can be quite a SQ difference from this. I think it plays to the idea of lowering windows overheads.

Fron memory to set the n/w adaptor interupt moderation rate.

Control panel => device manager => network adaptors => double click the used network card => select advanced tab => in the settings list make sure interupt moderation is enabled => set interupt moderation  rate to the desired value from low to extream or adaptive (I gravitate to a setting of High or medium).

Reading around this the setting controls the hardware interupt frequency the network card generates. There are quite a number of additional settings in the advanced tab that can influance sq, but interupt moderation is interesting to try in combination with the new setting above.

Kind regards,
2  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: 2.09 sound quality on: November 08, 2017, 10:15:21 pm
I had a listen using q1=30 q1x=40 and sfs around 1 today.

This is how it sounded compared to q1=7 , q1x=0 and sfs 1.8.

With the higher q settings.

Highs are smoother and less "etched" but i would say slighty smoothed or filtered. What makes me think this is that there is a small loss of detail.

Mids are tonally convincing but lack a small amount of dynamic impact. Guitars and electronic mid sounds can be very satisfying. Voices are smooth full and natural sounding but again I think the last gramms of detail whuch is not reproduced so well.

Lows are good, well damped and tunefull but extension is a little less and transient impact not quite as good.

Overall I do get a sense of a more balanced spectral resonse with the sense of an excited upper mid resonse being evened out very nicly  which is welcome, but as mentioned above this comes with small prices else where.

With the lower q settings

Highs are more detailed and contribute to the sound poping into the room, with better defined stage and slightly stronger dynamic. Comeing with the detail is a slight sense of hash and edge but I am being very picky on this point.

Upper mid vocals can, depending on the track, sound less tonally convincing with just a tiny amount of stridancy but do have very enjoyable presence. Lower voices are rich and very detailed, highlighting backing vocals and harmonys. Overall energy and dynamics are very enjoyable, coupled with the detail and seperation the music really has that in the room liveness.

Lows are similar in terms of damping but slightly more extended, have more weight and are definalty more tunefull. A clear favorite in terms of driving tracks forwards, giving a big grin factor to the music. Seperate amplifiers playing here too I think  Happy

Overall I am supprised that settings so far "off the dial" as it were can work so well. Despite the tendancy to be ever so slightly etched the low q settings have it for me, they just gets that much closer to live, with more of the fun and musical event comming across.

Asside from the Q settings, 2.09 is proving to be a real revolation , thank you very much again Peter sounds good !



3  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: 2.09 sound quality on: November 03, 2017, 07:18:02 pm
Juan hi,

I rolled back to 2.08d today to compare with 2.09 as Peter mentioned he was not 100% sure if 2.08 had some of the sq benifits already. Moving back to 2.09 there is a very clear improvment , I heard  again the changes that Peter, Mani and I describe above.


4  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: 2.09 sound quality on: October 30, 2017, 05:58:14 pm
But I'd say we both write rather similar about 2.09.

Without a doubt Peter, you capture what I am hearing what you are describing above. Bass is such good fun, and as you say partically playing electronic music, it drives the music forwards so well now. All of this really was not the case with 2.08.

I have managed to listen to some more snipits today and applied your xx settings, WOW its such a great sound, the sense of fun and energy in music really comes across.

Regards the 6db change in volume, I hear this too. I have another way of getting a similar effect in my PC which you will know about. Interestingly the sound quality that comes with the extra volume here is very similar in character to 2.09 - pushing in a very similar direction indead.

More time listening is needed but form the point of view of a sheer fun enjoyment factor coming from the music, I think 2.09 may turn out to be amongst the best releases ever.

I cannot stop  Happy when I am listening.


5  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / 2.09 sound quality on: October 30, 2017, 02:03:22 pm
I just applied the 2.09 patch. looking at the release notes they seemed to mainly talk about bug fixes for 2.08 and some additional features. Boy SQ came as a surprise  Happy

Overall the 2.09 sound "pops" much more than with 2.08 in a very good way. There is more presence and dynamics. The response is more extended with more energy in the highs and bass is just in a different class, so much more tune full whilst being better damped and delivering greater weight. My only issue with 2.08 was that somehow the musical event (or liveness) was just ever so slightly diminished, whilst in many other ways 2.08 was big step forwards. 2.09 really seems to pull so much together, to my ears its a good deal more "real", I am defiantly looking forwards to spending more time listening  Happy.

Thank you Peter !


ps I hope that there is an under the covers reason (ie in the software) for what I heard  Wink
6  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 2.08a patch - XXHighEnd not starting on: October 02, 2017, 03:09:39 pm
Assumed that indeed it was the ZIPing, it is solved now by means of a new 2.08d
in here, in RAR fashion.

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the link. The .rar patch file works fine when copied over the network no problems at all with blocked files.

7  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 2.08a patch - XXHighEnd not starting on: October 01, 2017, 12:46:40 pm
Hi Peter.

Sure will try the .rar files. It was a wired one, patches have always been so simple so it was a suprise.

I am really loveing the sound quality of 2.08, I mean REALLY loving it  Happy

I scanned the release notes to check your comments on SQ before looking at anything else (as always  Happy ). I think the comment you made was sort of, oh yes there might be better sound.
Love your I nderstatement, you have British side to you haha.

8  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 2.08a patch - XXHighEnd not starting on: September 30, 2017, 08:57:19 pm
Hi Peter,

The problem resolved quite quickly this morning.

The issues was that windows has flagged all of the patch files as "blocked" which prevented them from being run.

It seems the reason for blocking was because they "came from another computer"  and this is enought for Microsoft to flag them so they cannot be used ! Or to be precise the files were flagged as blocked after copying them from my music server PC onto my audio server PC form a mapped network drive on the music server PC.

There were two simple ways round this the blocking issue:

Right click on a file you think might be blocked in "properties" if it has been blocked there is a check box that can be set to unblock it. You have to do this for every file copied including data files etc that Microsoft thinks might pose a risk.....


Put all the files on a USB stick to copy them into the usb server. Microsoft obviously know that if files are transferred using a USB stick (which could have come from anywhere) are far far safer  than files that have been copied over a "private" network from machines on the same subnet. Anyway USB transfer of the file works great.

Thanks for the help and hope this might help anyone else runs into the problem.

9  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 2.08a patch - XXHighEnd not starting on: September 29, 2017, 07:11:19 pm
Thank Peter,
I will give this all a go and come back  Happy
Best regards,
10  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / 2.08a patch - XXHighEnd not starting on: September 29, 2017, 02:33:02 pm
Hi Peter,

I am having a problem upgrading using the 2.08a patch.

When I apply the 2.08a patch to my 2.07 or 2.06a directory and try to start XXHighEnd.exe the application is not starting. The first time after the patch has been applied I get the Windows wheel (new egg timer) momentarily and then nothing afterwards starts. After the first time if I try to start XXHighEnd.exe again I do not get the windows wait wheel.

After applying the 2.08 patch I have found that I cannot reapply the 2.07 patch so I have just been restoring the backup 14393 RAM OS file in order to get back to an activated 2.06a copy and try the 2.08a patch on. When the OS file is restored 2.06a is works fine.

I think I might be missing something when I install the 2.08a patch just not sure what  scratching



ps I have tried applying 2.08a in both minimised and non minimised OS conditions in a 14393 BASE boot.
11  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: The Lush on: July 05, 2017, 08:19:43 am
Peter hi,

Can you add me to the list for a 1m Lush.


12  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: After a while SQ degrades - how come ? what to do ? on: May 11, 2017, 03:05:55 pm
Hi Peter,

I will give the suggestions a go.

Good thing is that sound is very good event at high wattage. It is just better at low consumption :-)

Hi Nick,

Maybe we can relate this to Mani's hot power supply (Teradak) which occurred once, or maybe you even have that exact one ...

It was heat management that go me really looking into this. It could certainly have contributed to Mani's Teradak heat problem.


13  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: After a while SQ degrades - how come ? what to do ? on: May 10, 2017, 10:37:53 pm
I may have a new observation which might be relevant to the change in sound quality being discussed.

To avoid confusion with earlier discusion this is not related to the usb port effects above but it does change sound quality.

For some months I have been using a new linear supply for my audio pc. The supply displays both supply voltage and the current being provided and can always be viewed from where listen. I have become used to seeing the audio pc's current demand (and therefore watts) consumed go through "normal" cycles as the pc boots, shuts down, programms are loaded etc etc.

When the pc is idle with xx loaded and no music playing consumption is arround 31 watts.

With music playing this "should" go upto arround 33 watts so just a little more. This level gives the best sound quality.

However I noticed that on some occations with music playing power can be at 58 watts. This is a reading of almost twice the current draw whilst playing.

The interesting thing is that the pc can start playing music at 33 watts and you can play mutiple play lists and this doesn't change. Then for no obvious reason when the next play list is loaded or even during a play list sometimes the wattage goes upto 58 watts. Once this higher consumtion has started it tends to stay at that level each time play is restarted. I am finding that setting xtweaks supply smooth power to 1 flips the consumtion back from the high level to the 33 watt level and then it stays there for new play sessions even if supply smooth power is set to 0.

In summary it looks like the high consumtion level can just start for some none obvious reason. When it does sound quality is not as good. Unless you have the power readout constantly on these changes will not be obvious.

Might this be something to do with the sound quality change. It might be something my pc is doing of course. I will do a little testiing to see of some things that people have been trying to "reset" sound, such as plug and unplug the usb cable might somehow be toggeling the pc back to the low power consumption mode whilst playing.

14  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: After a while SQ degrades - how come ? what to do ? on: April 13, 2017, 03:23:21 pm
Peter hi,

I have had a quick try at "activating" the mobo header USB2 port then switching the NOS back to the front USB 3 port (connected to the USB3 header) to listen.

In my case the USB 2 mobo port did play music with the NOS connected (interesting sound actually, but a but dull overall).

Moving back now to listen with the front USB3 port. It does indeed sound very very clear. A more pronounced effect in terms of clarity, than just plugging another USB device into a spare USB3 port whilst using the Mobo header USB3.

In addition to the clarity there is more control and sparkle (less splashyness) in highs and cymbals are bigger again. The "clarity" seems to extend through the spectrum and there is a nice dynamic lift throughout.

First impression is very much positive. What ever next ???


15  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: After a while SQ degrades - how come ? what to do ? on: April 12, 2017, 10:22:09 am
Peter hi

It keeps on amazing me how we can get consensus about in fact everything we both just wrote about. "Consensus" is actually a wrong term, because it is just agreeing in advance - I am sure there's a special English word for that.

We must have a more common reference with the Orelos :-) (Of course I do not have the B'ASS and Phisilator upgrades).

I also agree with your comments about the slight gap between the lower mid and deep bass and smaller Cymbals. In the case of the bass the slight gap has the effect of emphasising the low bass thuds without the higher harmonics of the instrument being hit which makes bass notes sound more similar and the emphasis on the deep bass make the tracks rhythm down slightly. Its not a massive effect but this is what I hear.

I will take a look at the USB2 traces if they are easy to locate, and post back.


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