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76  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd PC / Re: Stealth PC - ** BE WARNED ** on: March 28, 2017, 02:50:22 pm
Hi,

I tried your set up Richard but without using the Intona, rather I put a USB Disk into one of the spare mobo USB3 ports. There is certainly a difference in sound quality here too. It is a slightly mixed change but generally positive. Amplitude of highs is slightly greater (this is welcome), tone of voices is very slightly less full but there is more detail especially in mid frequency voices, I get just a tiny (truly very small) amount of sibilance and highs are not quite so sweet (just a tiny amount more gain - again a very small change).

Staging here recently moved onto the "stupid" scale because of other work. Having the additional USB device plugged in to the spare port defiantly reinforces size of the stage and the recovery of room detail.

Very interesting, I wonder what happens if the 3rd mobo USB port has something plugged in as well  Happy

Regards,

Nick.
77  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / My "new" Orelo's on: February 02, 2017, 06:31:55 pm
Hi,

I have recently purchased a set of Orelo speakers and wanted to say hello on this board as a new owner.

Orelos have been an aspirational speaker system for me since first hearing them at Peters and also having heard Orelinos at Pauls. I would not have been able to acquire them were it not for the opportunity presenting itself to buy Mani's used pair. So after 18 years of ownership my much loved Avantgarde Duos have been sold  Shocked and the "new" Orelos installed in their place  Happy

The Orelos have been here now for a couple of months, with much work taking place over this time to get them well set up and settled in. I would say that there is just a little more tweaking to do to tune the bass response to my precise tastes and their new home, but to be honest they are 95% there and I think they sound absolutely beautiful.

They are a clear improvement in about every respect from my Duos, being a massive step towards the goal of live sound quality hear in the house . Many thanks to Peter, Bert, Paul and Mani for help, information and suggestions during the setting up process.

I won’t attempt to review sound in detail now, that may come later, but I must say than to say that I am super pleased with the sound.

Nick.

Ps I must mention the build quality of the Orelos. Berts design, construction and finish is absolutely exquisite. The overall effect of the combination of mid / high horn and bass horn system looks very sculptural almost like an art installation in the listening room  Happy

78  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / 2.07 a great christmas surprise on: December 24, 2016, 10:47:39 pm
Peter,

It was a very nice Christmas Eve suprise  to see 2.07 posted today.

We have really been enjoying carols playedbwith 2.07 today, very nice sound. Definatly a big step forward from 2.06 here.

Thanks and Happy Christmas.

Nick.
79  Ultimate Audio Playback / Phasure NOS1 DAC / Re: Phisolator on: November 25, 2016, 12:20:24 am
Me too Peter +1 here please.
Nick.
80  Ultimate Audio Playback / Phasure NOS1 DAC / Re: B'ASS Current Amplifier on: October 31, 2016, 03:17:26 pm
Hi Peter,
Please count me in for the upgrade too.
Nick.
81  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: Single-ended triode amps on: September 19, 2016, 09:27:51 pm
Mani hi,

Interesting, I do like the sound of SETs so I can understand what your describing Mani.

Just a thought. Looking on line the Consonance 211 it has an input impedance of 100k, a typically high for valve input stage.

Peter is getting great sound with the NOS1 => B'ASS line buffer. => Orelos. Might some of the magic you are hearing be down to the Consonance presenting a relatively easily driven load to the NOS1 output stage ?

I don't know the input impedance of the Orelos and how they compare in this respect to the 100k input of the Consonance amps but could be using a B'ASS might make the Orelos amps closer to the Consonance, that is if NOS1 to amp matching is a factor.

I know I really need a B'ASS to help drive the eight gainclone inputs in my amp. Maybe I should get out the audio note 300b SETs that have been under the my stairs for the last 6 years, just to see how they sound compared to the gainclone setup ...... :-)

Nick.
82  Ultimate Audio Playback / Phasure NOS1 DAC / Re: The cheapest upgrade : B'ASS on: May 29, 2016, 12:34:18 am
I'm still in Peter.
Keep going it all looks really good.
Nick.
83  Ultimate Audio Playback / Phasure NOS1 DAC / Re: The cheapest upgrade : B'ASS on: April 05, 2016, 12:28:38 am
My NOS1a is driving 8 gain clones from its balanced outputs so the current capacity of the B'ASS would be very welcome [...]

Nick,

In my proto-box there's currently still the switch hanging around that can add ~240mA per channel (I think I mentioned it in between the lines in the first post). So what I planned at some stage, is adding more current by means of, say, two switches (engage them both and the current is double the native). But it did not sound well. Not for me ! But I never thought of a situation like yours, where indeed it would be so that "double the drive" implies double the required current, all else being equal (read : if in my case and one 50K input impedance amp, the ~500mA is the best, then with two amps 1A should be required - well, sort of because the length of the interlink stays the same). So while I ditched the switches, I shouldn't ...

The additionally attached current ("chips") are only switched in the output signal path and I think/claim this is allowed at this higher level (of current). Measurement really shows no difference at flipping the switch (while it thus surely is audible). Side note (or not) : In my situation this additional current sounds chaotic, but this is not because of the switch; it already does with the chip nicely on the PCB like the others. Still, I can't judge the switch for that merit (of "switch").

Anyway ... thinking more inputs and what not it is not so difficult to again think "switches" (in the case). And if I do what I planned, then 2 switches plus electronics supplying the current, will cost 150 more for SE (300 for Balanced). It goes like this :

One switch can serve two "channels" and a channel is regarded one SE channel. Thus, stereo RCA (= SE, Single Ended) requires one double pole switch (think power switch sized) to attach one step of more current; with Balanced, the one switch would attach one functional channel (like the left channel) for both plus and minus of the differential channel. So it requires two switches to attach current for the left and right channel for one step of more current.
Thus two steps require 4 switches.

The switches would be at the outside of the case, reachable at any time without lifting the lid.

Peter


Peter hi,

This is very interesting and sounds like a perfect arrangement for my amp. A line stage with 250 to 500ma + drive potential it must drive the power amps with real authority !

In my setup taking the posertive pole of say the left channel of my amp the posertive side of the nos1a output opamp drives 2 gain clones each with 22k ohm inputs so in parallel these present just 11k ohms to the nos1a op amp. The sound from bridging and bi amping is good but I feel the input arrangement has always been a compromise. I don't really have the confidence to build a buffer for the input as getting a line designs up to the level of the nos's performance would be way too difficult for me.

What you have developed sounds like a brilliant fit. Please put me down for a switchable and balanced version, I would not really need attenuation being discussed.

Regards,

Nick

Ps  I can always use the line stage to do some arc welding when I am not using it to drive the gainclone amps  wacko
84  Ultimate Audio Playback / Phasure NOS1 DAC / Re: The cheapest upgrade : B'ASS on: April 03, 2016, 10:34:28 pm
A #2 XLR type please for me Peter.

One question, does the B'ASS have unity (or less ) gain ?

My NOS1a is driving 8 gain clones from its balanced outputs so the current capacity of the B'ASS would be very welcome but very loud volume is -34 db in XX so extra gain would not be a good thing for my system.

Regards,
Nick.

Oops !

Sorry I meant to say;

A #2 balanced XLR type please for me.

Thank you Peter,
Nick.
85  Ultimate Audio Playback / Phasure NOS1 DAC / Re: The cheapest upgrade : B'ASS on: April 03, 2016, 09:10:31 pm
A #2 BNC type please for me Peter.

One question, does the B'ASS have unity (or less ) gain ?

My NOS1a is driving 8 gain clones from its balanced outputs so the current capacity of the B'ASS would be very welcome but very loud volume is -34 db in XX so extra gain would not be a good thing for my system.

Regards,
Nick.
86  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: New NOS1 dedicated PC. Less terrifying thanks to you. All help still welcome! on: June 19, 2015, 08:42:52 am
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I would say this though. In my opinion, fundamentally, your approach is wrong, because instead of proceeding in a holistic fashion based on a deep understanding of how this very complex and audio unfriendly environment that is the personal computer works, you approach the "audio pc" in a random, piecemeal manner, that will ultimately paper over the cracks and not solve the deep-seated issues. Unfortunately, I think that everyone here has no choice but adopt this haphasard method. It is clearly not unscientific because as with many fields of knowledge significant progress can be made in this way. But it is not ideal.

You are at the first step the haphazard method, been there 7 years ago. Too many variables with too many effects. You do have a choice.

Now try stuf, loads and loads of stuff for years (most in my case not posted about it gets boring to read). Get your nose in data sheets read white papers anything available that might be relevant. Deliberately go off on tangents to chech ideas out, from the location that data is stored to the point is is streamed into the dac chips. Buy the same devices with as many different chip sets as possible to listen to differences, pore over there circuits to understand differences, modify and try stuff out. Look for the common themes, understand where you can. Swim against the flow of opinion at times.

This is what I did.

I did not attack people out of frustration because they drew a line.

You were inviteded to contact me you chose to do otherwise. You then post a passive aggressive point here that I take exception too. You follow up with the rubbish above.

Last time from me. Take it down a notch you will get further and learn more.

Nick.

87  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: New NOS1 dedicated PC. Less terrifying thanks to you. All help still welcome! on: June 18, 2015, 11:29:47 pm
Rakesh

Again it is clear I touched a nerve, look at the length of your post and the effort you are going to provoke a response ! You crossed a line and picked the wrong person a tit for tat post with you is a waste of my time..

Read back a further in the forum and you will find that much of what we do here with pcs i have been very involved with. Hanging out here progress and problems are all taken in an air of good will. I  love the problems, if you ask "why" apparent failiure becomes progress. You need to read more of the posts your quotes are from.

My advice is take it down a notch, you will get much further and discover more.

Recycled stuff ? You would like to think so, but truth is there is real innovation.  Other people developing serious server products are expressing interest.

Nick.
88  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: New NOS1 dedicated PC. Less terrifying thanks to you. All help still welcome! on: June 18, 2015, 02:21:46 am
Rakesh ,

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Blarr blarr blarr....

...So what is my point? Sometime we audio people forget that in buying products from dealers/distributors/manufacturers, we forget that if you tear down all the hullabaloo about a change in settings that means your mother-in-law can shimmy away to "dance music" (what the hell is that anyways? - I thought a set of Bose speakers and two huge subs would do the job) in the kitchen, presumably this being the metaphysical g-spot sweet spot where the system is at its most resolving...you are left with real products which deliver day in day out, and if you run in difficulty, there is someone you can easily turn to.


I don't oftern look in on this thread, too much navel gazing, but.

Clearly my repsonse to your pontificating in the "Nicks Chronos" thread has got under your skin. So you decide to have a pop masked in a point about "real product".

If I were you I would be seriously concerned if the caps had malfunctioned in that way. Might the cheap cost of repare be an embarrassed manufacturer ? Risk of fire, sock etc ? Interesting that the quote was over the phone, makes me wonder how many of these failures your "real product" manufacturer might have has seen before.....

If the certainty of getting a low cost repare in decades to come for treasured and possibly by then out of date equipment is important, stay with your "real product values. I am for experiment, inovation, progress and service.

Next time you take a pop have some evidance to back it up. You have absolutely no idea what you are passing comment on so better not to.

Nick.


Ps try asking your favorite "real product" vendors for their designs and for them to post them publicly on line, in the interest of transparency of course. Those that are offering well worn designs might help you but if there is inovation you will be told politely to go bother someone else.












89  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: W10 XX2.02 / XX1.186 Bass on: June 15, 2015, 10:57:19 pm
Nick, I softly tried to tell you that you may have problems with "sequences". My methanol and key example apparently does not help.

Install W10 properly and try again. Period.

I hope this helps ...
Peter

Thanks Peter, point taken   Happy I will do the reinstall, fingers crossed

Kind regards,

Nick.

Peter hi,

A result !

With the OS reinstalled and without the Windows 7 explorer utility installed Bass performance is restored. There are some differences but these are I think just better controled Bass then with 1.186.

The Subwoofers are up a couple clicks and sound quality is quite epic ! Im loving XX2.02 and W10 now.

Thank you for helping to sort this out.

Kind regards,

Nick.
90  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: W10 XX2.02 / XX1.186 Bass on: June 14, 2015, 10:32:37 am
Nick, I softly tried to tell you that you may have problems with "sequences". My methanol and key example apparently does not help.

Install W10 properly and try again. Period.

I hope this helps ...
Peter

Thanks Peter, point taken   Happy I will do the reinstall, fingers crossed

Kind regards,

Nick.
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