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751  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Does Improving PC PSU and Reducing PC EMI/RFI Improve SQ? on: September 22, 2010, 12:15:33 am
I made a post some time ago to the thread and said I would post some pictures of my modified M-Audio Transit. Its taken some time but here we go in case they are of interest.

Transit circuit, with super clock 4 modified to 6Mhz, two invius regulated supplies (3.3v and 5V), 4 Q-Power supplies (5v) and Black Gate decoupling caps throughout. I have picked up the SPDIF output and converted from optical to electrical output.

Its a real birds nest of wiring  whistle but musicaly rather good to listen to.



Close up of top side of Transit



Rear of transit showing positions of Black Gate decoupling caps



I am now using a HiFace which is similar in performance to the modified Transit (it seems that USB chips and implemtations have moved on a lot since the Transit was designed). If it were not for Peters NOS DAC I would be working on the HiFace (I think has great potential) but dosen't seem worth it if the Pasure NOS DAC might be availabe soon.


Nick

752  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: OS latency on: September 21, 2010, 09:44:08 pm
Marcin hi,

I get the occasional 1us reading and 2-3us readings the rest of the time. The lowest sample latency the PC plays using the HiFace in Special Mode is 32 samples with Q1=1 which I think is 1 sample latency if I understand things correctly. The music plays fine but sounds better at Q1=3.

The PC has two BIOS configs and OS installations which I switch between to give a “thin” build for playing music and thick build with full H/W and OS features (eg multiple drives, networking, vista services running etc). The thin config is absolutely for music only with everything I can think of turned off, disabled or tuned to reduce background CPU load.

The thin build applies the tuning steps;

Bios, turn EVERYTHING off that is not needed essential for music and tune where possible for speed.

Disable Vista Services, I think I have ended up with 8 services that have to run.

No network - turn off N/W hardware and remove all drivers, no anti virus, windows defender, firewalls etc.

Systems settings, I’m running 2 cores (of 4), no disk sowp file, PCI lock on, turn off event logs and memory dumps on system errors - all the usual stuff.

Control Panel Applets, Disable absolutely EVERYTHING in every application not needed.

In device manager I disable EVERYTHING that I can (unused USB drivers, IDE drivers with no drive connected, PCI to PCI bridge drivers that are not used to play music etc etc)

Uninstall all unused software and start menu options, take everything out of the systems trays (clock etc etc)

Used Autoloads - turn off all drivers, auto start programs, software registrations etc that are not needed for windows (taking special care not to kill the PC boot altogether)

I overclocked from 2.6Ghz to 3Ghz (the PC will go faster but sound suffers) and run the fastest memory speed I can get from the front side bus.

Power setting configs discussed in the Windows OS tunning thread

I also kill Windows Explorer whilst playing music.

Its a bit impractical to write a build as there are literally 100s little things to turn off / disable or  config so it’s not practical. I just read as much as I could on forums and then rigorously disabled stuff if it’s not needed for music. There were a few rebuilds along the way when I overdid turning things off but mostly the windows boot option of “use last known good configuration” got me out of trouble.
I just wish it were possible to tweek the priorities of windows system processes as there is such a huge amount of raw processing power available if it can just be focused on the processes we need for music replay.

Regards

Nick.
753  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: OS latency on: September 21, 2010, 05:06:44 pm
Good to hear you are getting such excellent results with horns and gainclones, it gives me confidence in the potential of my system if I get a Phasure NOS DAC into it.

My Audio Note DAC is NOS and based on the AD1865 DAC. I’v done quite a lot of work on it, by far the biggest step was removing the mumetal potted analogue filter that comes after the I/V transformer and feeds directly into the input of the DAC output tubes. Audio note call it a "filterectomey", taking the filter out absolutely bought the DAC to life. So there’s no over sampling or filtering in digital domain (except what you provide in software) and no analogue output filtering other than the I/V conversion transformer’s bandwidth limitation. I don't have the equipment to measure the resulting DAC response but I do simile and tap my feet a lot when listening Happy

The NOS and no analoge filter DAC approach works very well for me and is one of the main reasons I have been very interested in your work with the Phasure NOS DAC.
Nick.
754  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: OS latency on: September 21, 2010, 03:46:50 pm
Hi Peter

Still  OffTopic  Happy

I was running a pair of Audio Note P4s. I loved the 300b midrange, but could never get the extension in the highs and lows I wanted, despite LOTS of modification. Then I tried a basic commercial LM3875 chip amp design and was amazed by the sound.
The amp config I built has Stevens and Billington silver wired TVCs for volume control and two LM3875s per channel (Peter Danial kits) driving the mid and high range drivers of my Duos. I also went for 300VA R-Core transformers and Black Gate power supply caps.
I don’t need much power and the gain clones have real tube like immediacy but also deliver base extension and smooth top end. They are almost too simple to drive such expensive speakers but I really enjoy the results.

What amps do you use ? gainclones ??
Nick
755  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: OS latency on: September 21, 2010, 03:11:27 pm
Old topic, but I finally saw an occasional dpc reading of 1us today. My average dpc readings are around 2 to 2.5us after the system settles. I don't know if dpc directly tests the audio data flows of XX but I agree with comments about general sound quality improvements as the dpc's reported latency improves. Aggressiveness has reduced and naturalness of sound presentation has become markedly better, particularly as the last few micro seconds have come out of the dpc readings.

The system is a dedicated Audio build with everything cut that I can think of or have read about. Windows Explorer has also been killed which is how I normally play music.

Nick.

756  Ultimate Audio Playback / Phasure NOS1 DAC / Re: World's first NOS 24/192 filterless DAC ? on: July 24, 2010, 07:47:15 pm
Peter hi,

I have been dipping into the Phasure NOS Dac thread for a while and reading the updates and progress with mounting excitement . Your XX approach carried all the way through to the DAC output has got to be a good thing for listening. I am really interested in a 2 channel model when they become available. I was not sure if your collecting indications of interest / orders, but if you have a list please, please place me on it !

Nick.
757  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: XXHighEnd Model 0.9y-6 on: February 28, 2010, 11:50:43 pm
Hi all,

Firstly a big word of thanks - Peter you have made yet another fantastic player upgrade  clapping

I wonder if anyone can help, I am trying to get my M-Audio Transit to run in Special Mode. I am just getting "slow motion" music for all of the Transit latency settings and XX Q1 settings I have tried so far. Has anyone managed to work out settings for the Transit or Empirical Off-Ramp that allow Special Mode to work ?

Given how much better Engine 4 sounds I am really keen to get engine 4 special mode going as well.

Nick.
758  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Does Improving PC PSU and Reducing PC EMI/RFI Improve SQ? on: November 25, 2009, 08:18:17 pm

All,

It’s nice to get so much interest and thanks for the comments. I have tried to answer some of the questions below, its only based on my setup eg USB in to a Transit card but I hope it helps...

I will post some pics but the system is not pretty, its spread out like a bad electronics project on the bench, the problem is its never finished  dntknw. I am on holidays right now so will take the shots next week and post them.

The fans I use are
CPU fan
http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/intelcooling/cnps7000c
The fan comes with a little in line voltage controller to adjust fan speed, I set it quite slow, from a 3 or 4 feet away its hard to hear. You need a bit of clearance above the CPU though as the copper fins are quite tall.

Case fan
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/97858
These Akasa have worked well.
Power Supplies

I use Audiocom linear supplies these are very high quality and designed specifically for digital and analogue audio. Place then as close to the PCI board circuits as possible. I have about 12 X Q-Powers in total (now discontinued) and 3 of the invisius supplies (these are  extreamly good but quite expensive. I looked into making my own but done have the test kit needed to ensure they can meet the standards of the Audiocom kit.

Invisius 2 regulators
http://www.audiocominternational.com/product_detail.asp?id=14
I have been doing audio power mods for a few years now on audio and these things really are more than the sum of the parts.

Lab Bench Supplies
The first one I had hanging about just a 2 amp 0-30 volt, single rail old but nice, I use this one for the M-Audio Transit Audiocom supplies.

The second is a Maplin supply, I bought this in a hurry to see what could be done powering the PC. I probably would go for the third supply below though now.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=5925

The third is the nicest bench supply it’s a bit big but has 2 X 0 to 30v and 1 X 5v supplies. One thing to be aware of is that it has thermal cut in cooling fans which are quite loud. They cut in from time to time. At the volumes I listen at this is not much of a problem but they are quite loud (I keep meaning to see it I can replace the internal fans with some Akasa ones) .
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Triple-Output-DC-Bench-Power-Supply-0-30V-0-3A_W0QQitemZ320370820851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET?hash=item4a9796c6f3

Leifchristensen
From my experience I would not go down the mobo USB route. I have tried onboard USB on 4 laptops 3 mobos and most have not been as good as the Startach NVidia chipset USB card. On board looks hard to upgrade so for what the Startech card costs (circa £20) I would give it a go.
http://www.startech.com/item/PCI625USB2I-Value-6-Port-USB-20-PCI-Card.aspx

I have found USB cables to have quite an effect on sound quality. I tried quite a few but in the end I bought a few meters of 0.5mm pure silver wire and PTFE insulation and made one up. You only need to have the quality wire for the USB signal and the signal earth (the USB +5v from the PC is best not used down stream at all but the cable wiring can just be hook up wire). I hacked the connectors from some cheep USB cables and platted the silver wire (two cores at lease for signal +ve and earth). The cable is un-shielded but is works lots better than standard cables  smile

For power supply upgrades I generally work in this order;
1)   Replace the bypass capacitors on the boards with Black Gates or OsCons. Both are getting hard to get now as black gate have stopped producing. IMO they are the best you can get for Audio particularly the red / purple N and Nx types well worth the extra cost.
2)   If I can work out how to do a clock upgrade (eg apply an Audiocom Supper clock) this almost always has a good effect.
3)   For a basic upgrade I try isolate the existing supply on the card (I usually just break the relevant PCB track) and apply the smoothed supply across the bypass capacitors for the power rail. Take care this can be point of no return stuff as broken surface mount PCB tracks are hard to reconnect  Shocked
4)   For the PCI cards I have worked on it seems fine to power these separately before the PC supply is switched on. When the PC boots everything seems to sync up fine.
5)   Next a bit of research, I look out the data sheets for the USB board / Transit Card / DAC chips in my system components. It helps to get a reasonable idea of what to go for, I usually concentrate on the boards Crystal clock / PPLs (phase lock loops) / digital line drivers (eg AES outputs) where I can work out where these are. For clever proprietary DSP ICs the chances are that the data sheets are not going to be available so then your back to looking at the existing power arrangements to work out where to break in to the supplies.
6)   I have found quite a lot of PC boards and Digital Audio boards are implemented with a view to keeping cost down. Reading the data sheets can throw up some interesting simple things. For instance my DAC AD1865 really responds well to separate earths for its digital and analogue rails. This is specifically mentioned in the DAC application notes data sheet but was not well implemented in my DAC.

The PCI Bus pin out for the power pins to look at is here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Local_Bus


With regards to mobo’s I have done the following based on part personal experiment and part reading what others have done.

I run a ASRock board. At the time the approach was to keep the system as simple as possible and to have plenty of horse power to spare for the music. In the end I went for;

1)   The simplest onboard video adaptor I could find (I read that sound cards seem to be bad news for Audio and experience has born this out to some degree).
2)   PCI bus expansion for my PCI USB card
3)   Generally a simple board because most of the extras were just going to be turned off and would only create RF and use processor and Bus time (eg minimum expansion slots etc etc)
4)   Bios with good level of control over the mobo systems as I want to turn most off them off. In particular turn off clock spreading on the CPU and this is like deliberately adding jitter to the CPU clock – doesn’t seem right for Audio .
5)   Finally I wanted a Bios that can load multiple configs as I wanted to rune dual boots one for audio with absolutely everything turned off and one for normal use.
6)   I did look at the mobo power supply (as far as possible from pics). I know that some are better than others but I already knew that I was going down the route of supply upgrades.

This is what I went for, its cheep but seems to put in a good performance.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=G43Twins-FullHD

I have not gone as far as a separate mobo power plan (so far )but I would not be surprised to hear that it worked for sound quality. Certainly for my system turning everything off either by bios setting and or by disconnecting if it’s not used works (eg CDROMS, A Drive, Additional Hard Drives etc). Using the lab bench supplies for fans the remaining hard drive and PCI USB card is also good for sound.


Best Regards,

Nick.
759  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Does Improving PC PSU and Reducing PC EMI/RFI Improve SQ? on: November 24, 2009, 09:57:26 pm
Hi,
Just caught this thread on PCI power supplies and though I would post my experiences generally on PC power supply and power mods to PCI cards. Sorry for the long post, got a bit carried away but I hope it adds to the experience out there.


PC switched mode supplies seem to be bad news for audio. My experience is that different supplies give much better results than others but I got fed up with the hit and miss approach to buying ATx supplies on the chance they would improve sound quality so I ended up going down a different route....

I currently use a ATx supply (selected for low noise levels) for my CPU and mother board. For everything else the systems has external (outside the PC) linear laboratory bench power supplies (6 in total) on;

1) All cooling fans (nasty things for Sound Quality)

2) Hard drive (both 5v and 12v supplies) I only have one powered up while playing music

3) PCI USB card. The USB PCI card is where it gets more interesting. I have cut the supplies from the PC’s PCI bus to the card (got the PCI Bus standard pin from out on Wikipedia). I now have 3 high quality +5v and +3v linear supplies (Audiocom 2 X Q-Powers and 1 Invisius supply) physically on to the USB card. One supply runs the clock area of the card, one the main USB chipset on the card (see USB chip set note below) and the last seems to run the USB output drivers. In addition all of the bypass capacitors on the USB board have been upgraded for N Type Black Gates and OsCons. I started by powering the separate piggy back supplies from the PCs ATx supply but they now run from an external smoothed lab 12V lab supply outside the PC.

4) Not done this yet – but I want to mod an old Audiocom Superclock 3 that I have to 48mhz (common USB card frequency) to upgrade the PCI card USB clock. I expect this to be very effective from past experience.


The replacement of the USB PCI card bypass capacitors is very easy to do and easily audible - well worth the effort (even still running on the ATx powered PCI bus motherboard 5v and 3v rails). Cutting the PCI 3v and 5v rails on the USB card and running from the piggy back linear supplies makes a bigger difference (really cuts down on digital hash), using the external 12v lab supply better makes it better again.
Although my experience is with PCI USB cards this stuff will work on sound cards, if you have digital audio processing or particularly analogue audio functions (eg UDB, FireWire, SPDIF, Soundcard DACs, line level OP-Amp outputs etc) on your PCI board I would expect even bigger changes to sound with similar power supply mods.

Note on USB Chipsets - For other folks using PCI USB this may be useful in helping to home in on good sounding USB boards. My experience of on mother board USB has been poor with very little chance for upgrade. On the USB PCI card front I have tried most of the USB chipsets and a lot of boards for sound quality including NEC, VIA, OPTI samples. I have also tried PCI Express USB cards but most of these are just regular PCI USB cards (usually with an NEC chip set) with a PCI Express to PCI bus bridge chip on the card. By far the best cards for me have been normal PCI USB cards with the NVidia chipset, a much better sound and responds better of all to the power mods described above. The NVidia chipset takes some getting hold of but Startech USB cards still ship with NVidia. If anyone knows of any pro audio targeted cards I would be very interested.


Downstream outside the PC the power supply obsession continues I am using an M-Audio Transit for SPDIF conversion into my Audio Note DAC. The Transit card currently runs 6 separate supplies on the board feeding most of the important vcc rails on each of the 3 chips in the Transit card. These supplies are in turn powered by a Lab bench supply. In addition the Transit 6Mhz clock has been upgraded with a modified AudioCom Superclock 4 this also has its an additional separate AudioCom Invisius  +12v supply.
For my setup the power supply mods above have taken sound quality from a very high quality digital audio system into the realms of high quality analogue (vinal) playback. Well worth the time and effort.


Regards,
Nick.


Ps Peter, I have to say XX 09y-4 is absolutely stunning, thanks for a fantastic player, ok

760  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Activation Code !!! on: January 01, 2009, 01:24:38 am
Hi,

More information.

Have been taking a look at activation problem postings.  My symptoms are the same at the ones described in the post below.

In my case ver 0.9w-5 is installed on both PCs

http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=245.msg1474#msg1474

Regards,

Nick.
761  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Activation Code !!! on: December 31, 2008, 10:49:27 pm
Hi,

I installed demo XXHE on my dedicated  music PC (none networked very cut back XP SP2 config).

Sounded promising so bought the licence.

Activated the copy on my laptop first - BIG mistake....

I have spent 4 hours trying to get XXHE copy on my stand alone machine activated.

The standalone machine now has another networked XP boot partition  on it just to link the Laptop and Desktop with network shares between them. My laptop still cannot transfer the activation key.

Can you please help.

Questions;

1) Some where in the documentation it references a procedure for transferring the key by USB key drive can you please send me instructions on how to do this.

2) As my dedicated machine build is not stable do you have some precise instructions on how to reliably back up the key and how to reapply it to a new installation I cannot find anything that covers this processes clearly.

Thanks and regards,

Nick.
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