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436  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: 09-z9 impressions on: May 28, 2013, 05:00:43 am
Here are some first impressions:

1. 9Z9 (Peter's W8 settings except SFS @ 60)sounds better in W7 than W8. W8 sounds a bit more veiled to me.

2. In both W7 and W8, 9Z9 sounds best without the ASSI Rainbow Sugar Card (I didn't make that up!) It definitely puts a bit of a blanket on the sound.

3. 9Z9 in general is just a bit too fat in the mids resulting in less well defined vocals; though W7 sounds much more defined than W8.

4. 8e in W7, with Rainbow Sugar (the AFX-104 filtering card), continues to sound fabulous here.
437  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: May 26, 2013, 03:30:56 pm
Well Peter seems you got it more than somewhat right but it may be a bit too early for final conclusions!  Happy

After reading your initial post regarding the card, I gave it another try Thursday morning before heading out on a 2 day work trip. The sound, for the 3 hours I listened, was shockingly fantastic. Voices were no longer shouting at me, rather they were refined and articulate. They emerged from the music in a wholly natural way, being neither recessed nor too forward. On my trip I kept reflecting on what I heard and it just seemed improbable; made me feel a little crazy like I had imagined it. Maybe it now sounded good to me cause you liked it and I was just hearing it "differently?" Couldn't wait to get home.

 Well I listened for about four hours yesterday, which included pulling the card for a while, and again the sound with the card was just great.

The biggest change with the card in is in the sound stage. When I first listened on Thursday I was listening to a Beethoven String Quartet. Without the card the SQ was very good but I was a little disappointed with the sound stage. It was a bit congested, though congested might be too strong a word: there was separation between the instruments but I couldn't quite point to where they were in space. The recording was the last disc in a ten box set produced by Philips. I was expexting better and blamed the recording because the "sound staging" here has been quite good, especially since I replaced three power cords. The stock cords to my subs were replaced with pangea ac-9's and the one to my amp was replaced with an AC-9 SE. Anyway, after putting the card in I was shocked: the sound stage completely opened up, inner detail from each instrument was everywhere, and I could suddenly see, if not touch, where each player sat. Rather than a blanketed sound it was a rich, lush sound that I had not heard before from my system.

I then played Heart of the Sunrise, Yes, no lack of slam here, and the vocals: awesome.

Conclusions:

**Assuming the card has finally burned in, if the sound goes bad again, I'll remove it forever. I just can't have it fucking with my head like this! If it has stabilized with the sound I'm now getting it will be a permanent fixture in my system (We, here, are unapologetic about using whatever shortcuts, tricks, special potions, home made room treatments for first and second points of reflection, etc. that improve sound quality for under a hundred bucks!)

**Remember how clear the sound was with 8e before attempts were made to take the positive aspects of W8 and put them in XXhighend with W7? To me when this happened the focus of the entire "audio band" shifted downward, and though the mid range and base may have improved, the higher frequencies have sounded rolled off. The female vocals just lost their sense of presence. However, this shift to a W8 sounding XXHighend seemed to be caused by a harshness in 8e that you purist types wanted to eliminate (You should have tried some fiber glass sound panels at the reflection points. Ha!  Happy ) Anyway, everyone who has this card should give it a listen on W7 with 8e. With the settings below, I'm currently in audio bliss.

Okay, now with the release of the "9" series all bets are off. Time to download and do some testing.....Are we having fun yet?  Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy


 
438  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: May 21, 2013, 02:46:12 pm
Peter, I've been patiently waiting for your post here and, of course, what i expected doesn't come close to your findings! Anyway, am wondering what your opinion of the card's effect is with W7?

Looks like i'll be ordering a new one today.
439  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: SeVeReD's 6-13 PC build on: May 19, 2013, 01:50:06 pm
I've had great results with the Sandy Bridge 3930 with an ASUS P9X79 WS motherboard. I believe Mani and Nick use the same cpu and mb, When others were having frequent stopping issues with XX version 8e, I was and still am largely unaffected, maybe 3x's a month, if that, the program will stop in the middle of a track. The ASUS WS mb has two PS/2 sockets for a mouse and keyboard which sounds cleaner than usb types. Also the mb has a great bios interface for overclocking and other bios tweaks. Just my 2 cents. Don't knowabout the other cpu's in your link or other mb's.

Also, you can't not read through the thread started by Juan about his computer build. Lots of important stuff in there. Good luck!

















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440  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: May 13, 2013, 05:15:05 pm
My card started out sounding better but then something happened and it sounds terrible. Am pretty sure it malfunctioned and never recovered.
441  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: May 01, 2013, 06:54:02 pm
Thanks Juan-your helping to tip the scales in favor of me buying another card.
442  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 25, 2013, 04:58:16 pm
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Anyway are the any psu wires in the vicinity of the card?

Cohen, no psu wires but i did move the card to slot #1 which is perpendicular with my memory modules, so close that they (memory and X card) almost touch. Could that cause the oscillation you describe?
443  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 25, 2013, 04:30:18 pm
Has anyone besides me left the pc on for hours, no music playing and then had no problems?
444  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 25, 2013, 04:26:04 pm
The popping started during playback. I stopped XX and the popping stopped for a few seconds but then came back. Turned off th PC, removed the card, restarted and played incident free for hours.
445  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 25, 2013, 04:10:08 pm
Thanks for the update Nick. Well mine has definitely malfunctioned. Yesterday I put it back in and after an hour I got this terrible low frequency popping--thought I was going to blow a speaker. Took the card out and played problem free for hours. Am tempted to order another cause the sound was so good until the day I left the pc on, no music playing. Thats when vocals turned to shouts and it never recovered. It would be great if others besides Nick, Paul and Bert would post your respective findings. Peter?
446  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 23, 2013, 10:17:12 pm
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We have the same mother board etc and I am not getting the symptoms you describe, could the problem could be unrelated to the x-sound card ? Does the sound get back to normal if the card is removed  ?

Yes, as soon as the card is removed the natural timbre of voices returns. I'll give Cohen's suggestion of changing slots a try tonight. Thanks to all for your input!
447  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 23, 2013, 02:27:22 pm
Well, tried all of your suggestions Peter and washing machines are not the issue. It feels like it's malfunctioned, voices have a terrible glaze. Will wait to see other's experiences before ordering another one. Peter, thanks for your input.
448  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 22, 2013, 05:02:00 pm
....a little more context: Till last night the card seemed to make the music soudn better and better, was very impressed. Thought I could speed up burn in by leaving the PC on all night. But awoke to "Yikes!"
449  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 22, 2013, 04:47:23 pm
Yikes! Got up this morning, turned on some tunes and suddenly it felt like vocals were being shouted at me. Yuck. Pulled the new card out, and, voila, all was right. Have now put it back in and am hoping the natural timbre of voices returns. For further context, I left the computer on last night, no music playing; night before all was off.

Then again, could be those washing machine blues!
450  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: PCI supply rail noise on: April 20, 2013, 09:10:20 pm
Give me burn in! Received it this a.m. and have been listening for several hours. Sound has definitely changed for the better over time. Will let you know if I get washing machine blues..... Happy

It's a significant boost is SQ. Guys, thanks so much for taking the time to post about it. Can't wait to hear what you have to say Peter after giving it a try! Oh, and let us know if two is better still. Thanks
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