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871  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09.U-0a setup with external USB DAC on: February 23, 2008, 11:30:18 pm
 drinks Grin Cry unsure Happy
872  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Press "Next" sometimes not possible. on: February 23, 2008, 09:38:38 pm
Peter

Not the most importent thing at the moment but just to let you know that is not always possible.

2: Also with the latest version when you press "STOP" somekind of a crack comes up... The same when you like to pull up the needle from a LP.

3: And since a few versions back sometimes playing stops. At the end of a track when XX like's to go to a next track.  (Same cd)

 Happy
873  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 23, 2008, 07:54:52 pm
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The Not Supported thing become's less depending how high i set the latency of my soundcart.

Can you rephrase please Gerard ?

Well as you can see http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=381.msg2609#msg2609  i can set it from 44.1 to 192... When i set it to 44.1 than pic 1/88.2 gives pic 2/192 gives pic 3.

(pic 1)
Start Audio Device Analysis Exclusive Mode support
03ECFD38

    Supported : 2|16|44100|176400|4
    Supported : 2|24|44100|264600|6
    Supported : 2|32|44100|352800|8
Not supported : 2|16|48000|192000|4
Not supported : 2|24|48000|288000|6
Not supported : 2|32|48000|384000|8
Not supported : 2|16|88200|352800|4
Not supported : 2|24|88200|529200|6
Not supported : 2|32|88200|705600|8
Not supported : 2|16|96000|384000|4
Not supported : 2|24|96000|576000|6
Not supported : 2|32|96000|768000|8
Not supported : 2|16|176400|705600|4
Not supported : 2|24|176400|1058400|6
Not supported : 2|32|176400|1411200|8
Not supported : 2|16|192000|768000|4
Not supported : 2|24|192000|1152000|6
Not supported : 2|32|192000|1536000|8

(pic 2 )
Audio Device Analysis Exclusive Mode support
03ECFD38

    Supported : 2|16|44100|176400|4
    Supported : 2|24|44100|264600|6
    Supported : 2|32|44100|352800|8
    Supported : 2|16|48000|192000|4
    Supported : 2|24|48000|288000|6
    Supported : 2|32|48000|384000|8
    Supported : 2|16|88200|352800|4
    Supported : 2|24|88200|529200|6
    Supported : 2|32|88200|705600|8
Not supported : 2|16|96000|384000|4
Not supported : 2|24|96000|576000|6
Not supported : 2|32|96000|768000|8
Not supported : 2|16|176400|705600|4
Not supported : 2|24|176400|1058400|6
Not supported : 2|32|176400|1411200|8
Not supported : 2|16|192000|768000|4
Not supported : 2|24|192000|1152000|6
Not supported : 2|32|192000|1536000|8

(pic 3)
Start Audio Device Analysis Exclusive Mode support
03EDFD38

    Supported : 2|16|44100|176400|4
    Supported : 2|24|44100|264600|6
    Supported : 2|32|44100|352800|8
    Supported : 2|16|48000|192000|4
    Supported : 2|24|48000|288000|6
    Supported : 2|32|48000|384000|8
    Supported : 2|16|88200|352800|4
    Supported : 2|24|88200|529200|6
    Supported : 2|32|88200|705600|8
    Supported : 2|16|96000|384000|4
    Supported : 2|24|96000|576000|6
    Supported : 2|32|96000|768000|8
    Supported : 2|16|176400|705600|4
    Supported : 2|24|176400|1058400|6
    Supported : 2|32|176400|1411200|8
    Supported : 2|16|192000|768000|4
    Supported : 2|24|192000|1152000|6
    Supported : 2|32|192000|1536000|8

874  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 23, 2008, 07:21:24 pm
Peter, All,

32 (most often) is working here... 24 (untested) still gives the error "inconsistent" The Not Supported thing becomes less depending how high i set the latency of my soundcart.

I have got Double working.... Sounds different.... But i cannot point out what it is at the moment.
upsampling i can check... But i don't know if it works... but the sound that come's from it somehow i don't like...

The higher i set the latency the less i can play and error's come up... when i set it to 88.2 i can play Double.

   Happy
875  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 23, 2008, 05:04:25 pm
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Upsampling *and* using the Digital Volume Control should really not be applied together !     

Do we have to leave it at 0db?
876  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / Re: What does Shared and Exclusive mode means? on: February 23, 2008, 01:29:44 pm
Ah ok....

I got the big line here  Happy

Thanxxxx
877  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your questions about the PC -> DAC route / What does Shared and Exclusive mode means? on: February 22, 2008, 10:59:21 pm
 And where can i find it? dntknw  Happy
878  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 20, 2008, 10:33:19 pm
Peter,

This is what you said in the realease notes. What do you mean by that? Meaning the word before... Do you refer to a previous model? Do you mean by this that the music is only different when you play around the 30/24 db? (Less than 0 db)

Or am i totally wrong on this one..... dntknw Happy

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Expectations on changed sound quality : totally different from before.
But if you don't want that, keep everything connected as usual, and set the Volume Slider (topmost) to -0dB. Sound will be the same as before with 16bit files.
879  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Other settings with EMU1212m? on: February 20, 2008, 07:04:18 pm
For me it's confusing just the same Gerard.

When you ticked Double and it playes, you should be fine. Also, that info screen (3rd) shows the native file data.
Whether this is better for SQ is up to you. YMMV here. But you can try now ! Happy


YMMV?  dntknw
 
And even Upsampling is possible now....   Happy

EDIT: YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary  Grin

Grin
880  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Other settings with EMU1212m? on: February 20, 2008, 06:03:50 pm
Peter


I have been playing around a bit..... I never could use the double function.... Until as you see below i set my EMU to 88.2 khz.... (Pic 1 en 2)

1: Is that ok by you? I mean is that right or can i do something else for the better?

2: Does it have to show in XX also? (see pic 3) Because it does not..

I am sorry but this Bytes/Khz/and Bits thing is rather confusing for me.... unhappy Happy

And maybe i have to leave it just to plane 16/44.1..... ( For now )

Grtzzzz
881  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 20, 2008, 05:20:59 pm
I am playing regular 16/44.1 cd ripped files.
What I was saying refers to settings area, "DAC is 24 bits 192.0 KHz" combobox not the track formats.


Peter

I did this too.... It play's but before playing this error come's up.... what does it mean?

Grtz.... Gerard...... Happy
882  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 19, 2008, 02:18:48 pm
I am not sure but it even looks like there is more seperation between left and right.... smile
883  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds - but what is it we perceive ? on: February 18, 2008, 04:04:57 pm
Gerard, you said the room is separated from the music now. This one didn't occur to me, but I think you are right. How ? what actually happens then ?
Maybe this "room separation level" is something to work with. But then I'd first have to listen and pay explicitly attention to that phenomenon.

Possibly this is not a separation from the room, but a separation from everything. I mean, it already occurred to me (and I really wondered) why I was closely listening to the music quality itself, french fries boiling in oil making a havy noise right behind me, the cooking hood at full power ditto ... and I found myself rathert explicitly thinking "I don't care !". Normally I wouldn't even start to sit down and listen seriously. So ...

... Concentration level. Ah, that seems a good one ! And mind you, it already exists in our world of audio. Maybe it's not very well defined and spoken of, but I think we all know about *or* your attention is with the music *or* you find yourself thinking of something else while you should have payed attention to such and so, and now the moment has passed.

Interestingly enough it -then- is this same concentration level that allows you to NOT pay attention to the music. To me this is almost more strange than being able to concentrate on the music. Like I told about it in the previous post ... typing stuff like this and during such mind setting there is just *no way* I heard music. Room separation, subject separation, concentration separation.

Officially it wouldn't help, but let me repeat at this stage that I told about CD Playback always having been wrong as I see it. So now I do it right. Just right, that's all.

Might this be similar now to the natural realism of you being in a room with 30 people, two people opposite of you with a table in between and you talking to those people, while right behind you -closer than the people you talk to- other people are talking, and you are not disturbed by that at all ? you are able to concentrate on the people you talk to. The others talk louder, but actually you don't hear them. You hear the people you talk to.
Now compare the same situation, but music plays. I think we all know, it doesn't need to be loud at all to disturb. Why ? is this because it is so much unnatural that our brain can't get it out of the way ?
Note that I don't have the experience yet of playing music at this birthday party, but that I feel that it won't harm anymore.

If I'm on the right track, is "naturalness" a property ? Ok, it could (or should !) but as an ICTer I say this is an inheritent and composed property of many other properties. So, useless. Naturalness could be way to describe the sensation though, but on the other hand ... what defines naturalness then. Me ? nope. We rather need that property that defines naturallness. Like "concentration level" is prone to it (I think).


Peter,

I think you have a good point here.. Indeed music alway's has been something that whas anoying present in room with a bunch of people or to our wife as well. And than they say that a man cannot do two things at a time.. arrogant Happy.. I can say that for 80% of the time that i push the volume button of my receiver she touch the button as well. ( But in a whole different direction than i did.)  unhappy I really am going to have a test according to this. Wink

Strange thing is though (like you told) that in a conversation with someone in the same room and with the same amount of people you are capable of shutting thoose people down to come into your head and you are capable of concentrate to one person. That's alway's bin rather easy. Just like a clock tikking or a train in the bagground or cars driving on a highway. these are also blocked to come into our brains. ( After a few moments) Why not when a cd was playing.

And maybe naturalness is the word.... But cars driving as well a train what is so natural about that? Well we can say that the sound that come's from that are easy going. For our brain easy going that is. Maybe specifiek frequensie's Alway's where anoying.  dntknw

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Possibly this is not a separation from the room, but a separation from everything. I mean, it already occurred to me (and I really wondered) why I was closely listening to the music quality itself, french fries boiling in oil making a havy noise right behind me, the cooking hood at full power ditto ... and I found myself rathert explicitly thinking "I don't care !". Normally I wouldn't even start to sit down and listen seriously. So ...

They alway's say that the room and the furniture that is in that room infects the SQ.... Like a stone floor ed. IMO also that not anymore.... It looks like that does not have anything/so much to do with each other... But there i could be wrong... It just feels like it dntknw

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What I hear in really everything is a perfect added sound that came from under - upwards (in dutch : van onder uit). Like base tones were lacking, and *those* are added now. Can this be ? hardly. It more looks like the proof that undertones actually do exist and that *those* are able to be profound now (similar to just everything is more profound). Whether they are in the recorded data or are recreated in air ... I don't know at this time.

I also was wondering what it is.... Is there so much more to discover on a cd......

 Happy
884  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / + - Button on: February 18, 2008, 01:34:23 pm
Peter

Can you make a + - button next to the volume slide? So that one push gives one step up or down.  Happy Or change it in only plus or min....

 Happy
                     
             

                   
885  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: How .9u Sounds on: February 18, 2008, 10:43:42 am
Peter

Nice writing!  Happy

Yes Yes Yes........ I have a day off  Happy And listening for a few hours now to my new discovered music collection!  Grin I can tell you that i am really enjoing myself with this great new .9u present too much ! too much !

Back to how peacefully it sounds or call it somekind of serenity that come's to my ears... Was it so irritating/stressed before this?  unhappy Well no and yes i guess. The thing i also nodiced is that before after a few moments of listening and i put the music OFF that the peace than was comfortable. Now there is no difference between OFF and PLAYING
Even when i play Slagerij van Kampen. (Big drums)


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but it is the very first time in my life that this whole evening the music is playing (not loud) and I don't even notice it while being behind the computer screen.

You are so totally right there, it is possible to switch effortless between some writing and back to the music again... Like a ON/Off button in your head.  wacko


EDIT: There was a day that i asked you this.... 
http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=278.msg1774#msg1774

Well afterall (though in a different way) i think you fixed it!!!  rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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