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256  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: YFS USB cable tour on: February 26, 2015, 05:28:27 pm

Anyways what got me excited was the gain in SNR .... Might seem strange when there is so much distortion, but just generally, proper cable matching will result in at least 6dB gain in SNR. That is just with USB

Regards,
VJ



Hi,

I do not hear on my system with "NO horns" the 6dB gain for the highs, and the tweeters are going up to 40KHz. There is a very balanced SQ with everything for the better (voices, drums, bass and guitar), except less air around the instruments in the listening position, but on the toilet/office the SQ is perfect.

Joachim
257  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: YFS USB cable tour on: February 26, 2015, 03:03:30 pm

Honestly I felt it might have to do with grounding! Who knows?!



Might be a good guess/hint!

see:

http://www.analog.com/library/analogDialogue/archives/46-06/staying_well_grounded.html

Joachim
258  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: YFS USB cable tour on: February 25, 2015, 10:30:07 am
Anyways what got me excited was the gain in SNR .... Might seem strange when there is so much distortion, but just generally, proper cable matching will result in at least 6dB gain in SNR. That is just with USB.

VJ (and all), I tend to agree with this. But it won't be about SNR literally. But for sure something which feels like that. I think we generally can describe it as "hash". But in the end it is about how foremost the high frequencies can remain separated as they are (ahum, ?) or are smeared into a hash. Roughly this is "digital" to begin with, but the USB cable for sure can imply it, or be better at it.



Hi,
in other words, the noise floor is much lower and then other qualities in the audio chain are "suspect". In my opinion -amplification with a high resolution.

Joachim
259  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: YFS USB cable tour on: February 25, 2015, 08:31:20 am

Audio ...

Hi Peter,

Yes, sometimes weird results are "evaporating", even during the day with different loads within the "public power lines" in our area (my suspicion).

After your comment about the YFS cable I fumbled with the XXH settings by increasing SFS up to 2MB and the driver USB buffer size up to 8ms, and I got a smoother sound with more ambience.

Joachim
260  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: YFS USB cable tour on: February 25, 2015, 02:03:21 am
I was just asked what I was laughing about in such outbursts. I actually still can't type because of it.
... still ...

Hi,

Dani Kleins  voice on “The Best Of Vaya Con Dios“  is really a “challenge” for the ears and the system, especially the first track. I’m  listening to this CD on the PC via WIMP and the highs in her voice have a tendency for possible distortions on some tracks in my opinion, but the voice is quite ok to listen to after a longer time.

Voices are always a heavy burden (challenge) for the power amplifier to get all the nuances to the speakers/drivers.

Since I’m most of the time listening to the music in adjacent rooms (toilet) the YFS cable is at present the preferred USB cable and the SQ of the voices is the best I ever had. Very natural whoever I play (Frank Sinatra, Al Jarreau, George Benson, Harry Belafonte, Sammy Davis jun.,  Flora Purim etc. and violins) Two words: Great sound.

Peter wrote in two threads that he heard some new details he didn’t hear before (or remember) in songs using a new cable (Blaxius) a couple of weeks ago (Mannheim Steamroller). My first idea was, strange, very strange, because on my system I had no problems .............. . To be honest, some tweaks at the Orelo MKII amps might not be a bad idea.

I’m curious to listen to the Clairixa in the near future.

Joachim
261  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / Re: The Earth Moved on: February 24, 2015, 06:45:07 pm
did you listen to the "Fever" track.

Joachim, it is in my Playlist now for in a couple of hours.
So all I can forget now is report about it. sleeping

Peter

 Grin

It's never too late.

Joachim
262  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: Clairixa USB on: February 24, 2015, 02:19:23 pm

because you first need this cable to show the real difference.



Ok,

put me on the list for a 1m cable, normal A to normal B, please.

Joachim

Edit:  Changed the standard USB cable after one week back to the YFS cable today. In my system the YFS cable has much more details and “punch” etc. in the various listening positions, such as our “favourite toilet”, PC working place  and at the near field location.
263  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: Clairixa USB on: February 24, 2015, 01:21:56 pm
See details about the YSF cable, the are omitting the power lead only.

http://yourfinalsystem.com/cable-design-f-a-q/147-how-do-data-only-usb-cables-work

What i can confirm is, that with the data only cable the "air" around the instruments is gone (with boxed speakers). Using the standard USB cable the "air" is back - more informations/details? More noise?.

The question for me is, what is right/correct? Mostly we are listening to music out of recording studios.

Joachim
264  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / Re: Mani's Orelo MkII speakers on: February 23, 2015, 08:32:27 pm
The new settings are incredible, in other words, the speakers can be pinpoint adjusted to the listening position.  yes clapping

Joachim
265  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / Re: The Earth Moved on: February 23, 2015, 03:56:22 pm

I will try to find that Elvis and play it tonight. Happy

Hi Peter,

did you listen to the "Fever" track.
I heard it via "WIMP" on my PC (and ordered the CD) and this piece must sound great (with amazing ambience) on your system.

Joachim
266  Ultimate Audio Playback / Orelino / Orelo MKII Loudspeakers / Re: The Earth Moved on: February 22, 2015, 12:08:44 am
Some thoughts about bass found here:

http://dagogo.com/beatnik-pet-peeve-3-way-modern-speakers-play-bass

Very few people like a speaker that has fat, flabby sounding bass. More people nowadays seem to like fast, tight bass with lots of slam. People also seem hung up on how low speakers play bass. There are speakers which can place bass down to the low 20 Hz regions that don’t have satisfying bass. There are speakers like any of the LS3/5As that don’t make it to 40 Hz but the bass sounds musical, and admittedly not powerful or very full.

The part of my audio journey that has brought me to be thinking about bass has been listening to Wayne Picquet’s rebuilt Quad ESL. I hadn’t expected them to have some of the most musical bass I have had in my house. When word got out that I had them in, I was surprised how many people wanted to come by to hear them; seems that a lot of people have never heard this legendary speaker. Everyone that came by first commented on how wonderful the bass was. I would tell them they don’t go that low and they would reply that they didn’t care because the bass sounded more like real instruments. The next thing they commented on was how natural the voices sounded; that I expected.

So all this talk about bass started me thinking about some of the speakers I have reviewed and listened to at audio shows in the last couple of years. A few came to mind: the Burwell & Sons Homage speakers, the big JBL Everest, the incredible sounding RCA LC-1A LS-11 and those wonderful sounding Tannoy Golds mounted in a Jensen Imperial Cabinets turned upside down so that the empty horn part of the cabinet acted as a stand to raise the Tannoy Gold drivers to the right height. Those were in the Pass Labs room at the 2014 California Audio Show.

All of these speakers have several things in common. First, they are all based on or actually are speakers from the mid to late 50s. Second, none of them attempt to play down into the 20s, in fact some don’t make it below 45Hz. Third, they all have very large drivers, most of them have 15-inch bass drivers and the Quad ESL bass panels have around 500 square inches for each speaker. Lastly, while they don’t all sound the same in the bass they all sound wonderfully musical.

There seems to me to be something fundamentally different in the way these speakers play bass compared to modern speakers with their super dead cabinets and incredible fast, tight and really deep bass. While these speakers sound very impressive their bass just doesn’t flow within the performance like these older-design speakers. The bass on these newer speakers is definitely deeper, faster and has more slam, but they just don’t have the life in the bass that the more vintage designs do. All of the speakers above have incredible air and harmonics in the bass. You feel the bass. Yes, you feel the bass with the modern speaker as well, but differently. The bass from modern speakers with extremely dead cabinets has a very pistonic sound. To me, real music seldom sounds this way, occasionally rock music does, but it also often sounds purposefully distorted.

Let’s use a selection that is a show favorite for showing off bass; the “Fever” cut on Elvis is Back is a favorite demo for the modern speakers designed with really dead cabinets and fast, deep bass. The first time I ever heard this LP was at the last Stereophile Show held in San Francisco. People were standing in line to hear something in the Wilson Audio and VTL room. When my turn came along I went in to see the big Wilson speakers with the biggest tube amps I had ever seen. Elvis’ “Fever” was the first cut they played. It was awesome. Everybody wanted to know which Elvis album that was on? I bet this one demo sold a lot of the LPs. The cut started with a standup bass playing left of center. On the Wilson’s that day and on other speakers of this type I have heard over the years the bass simply explodes out of silence; Elvis is just right there in the center of the soundstage, like he was suspended in space; the finger snaps seem to float in space, the snare comes at you fast, tight and appears from different points in the sound stage like watch fireworks at night; and to follow the same thought the bass drum explodes like cannons with shocking slam and speed. While really impressive, I doubt Elvis or his fans ever heard it sound like this live or in the studio.

By contrast on the Quad 57 or the Burwell & Sons, the standup bass is warmer, fuller and sounds much more like a wooden string instrument, on the 57 you can hear and feel the air move from it. On these two speakers Elvis is not so precisely located, he is in the center but the image is a little bigger and not as sharp. On the 57, the voice is much more natural than either of two. The finger snaps still seem odd, I think they were just recorded too close to the mic. On the 57, they sound alright, but they seem to be on the panels. On the Burwell & Sons they come out of the horn and are a little tinny sounding. The snares are very different from the modern, dead cabinet speakers, they are still spaced a little strangely but they sound like snares and not something else and they have air instead of empty space around them. Lastly, the sound of the bass drums is very different. The drum doesn’t sound shocking, just big and powerful. On both the 57 and the Burwell & Sons it just sounds more like a drum. Interestingly, the 57 actually move more air on this cut than the Burwell & Sons.

All of these comparisons are interesting, but the only thing that matters is that the Quad 57 and the Burwell & Sons play Elvis’ “Fever” more like you would hear it at a performance and the modern speakers with their dead cabinets and deep, deep bass just sound more impressive in areas that aren’t part of the musical experience.

I need to say that one of the things I cannot tolerate in an audio system is fat, boomy bass. Still, it seems I prefer a more vintage sound when it comes to bass. With all these speakers, placement and amp selection is absolutely a necessity or they can sound fat and boomy. For example, the only way I could get the Quad 57 to play this kind of bass was by using the incredible Pass Labs XA30.8. Even then the Quads had to be at least 5 feet off the wall behind them to not sound tubby. Still, in the end I find the harmonics, richness, air and weight of the vintage sound to allow music to flow in a more natural way than most top-of-the-line modern speakers, even those costing in the six figure range.

Are there any exceptions to this? Well, open baffled speakers do a pretty good job with bass, the big Maggies do as well, but with both of those we don’t have ported, dead boxes trying to play live sounding music. This is all just my own opinion, but that’s what a column is all about after all.
267  Ultimate Audio Playback / Phasure NOS1 DAC / Re: XXHighEnd settings for the NOS1a on: February 20, 2015, 05:08:43 pm

And best SQ in the world I'd say.
haha

Haha, yes - are you sure???

Saw the horns here.
http://www.monoandstereo.com/2015/02/tatsuyoshi-moriyama-horn-based-speakers.html

268  Ultimate Audio Playback / Cables (Community induced) / Re: Clairixa USB on: February 18, 2015, 02:44:09 pm
Hi Peter,

  Since NOS 1a does not require the USB 5V power, would it be possible to have the Clairixa be without the power leg? Will this further improve on the SQ?

Daniel

Hi Peter,

a reply to Daniels questions would be interesting for me too.

Joachim
269  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: Confirmed : PC Damping on: February 13, 2015, 12:48:41 pm
Hi,

here is a different possibility  to us the “Aptitlig” board, described in the German HighEnd paper  “Fidelity”, Issue 16, page 136.

The author used the board upside down (the grooved surface downwards) with 3 pcs ceramic balls/bullets for the groove and “RDC buttons” to protect the surface of the rack/cabinet with good results.

The component on top of the “Aptitlig” board should be tested with or without footers.

Joachim

Edit:
 
There are SQ differences with bullets made of alumina/silicon nitride and  beads (insider info) and with various diameters too.
 
(Possible applications for glass beads are:
in ball bearings, as mixing beads for insulin, ball valves in dosing pumps and dispensers, crystal balls in the food industry)
www.schaeferglas.com/produkte/glaskugeln/

270  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: Size of listening rooms on: February 12, 2015, 07:16:58 pm
Bingo - you did not get my joke (once again).
Haha, 1-1.

Regards,
Peter

  Happy very happy very happy Happy
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