Hi,

some loudspeaker manuf. (Ascendo with their System M5-S) are adjusting the position of their speakers very accurate in dependence to the  "sweet spot" of the listening position.
They are measurering the distance from the left speaker plane  to the left ear, and from the right speaker to the ................ .

The sweet spot is (with the adjusted placement of the speakers) the only perfect listening position in that room. The signal from the left speaker is a "mirror image" of the signal from the right speaker at that place (with a pink noise signal).
 At other positions we hear different "signals" due to other/different running times to our ears.

The possible “off axis“ listening position is not the best place for serious listening sessions, but might be a good location for „easy listening“ during „studies“ on an iPad or in books, newspapers.

And, as Peter wrote, when we are listening to very loud music (from the room) outside on a veranda with the present configuration, the sound seems to be LIVE.

Joachim

Hi Paul,

since I'm using a laptop (battery removed) the "sweet spot listening position" is not mandatory anymore/again and I'm sitting in my prefered "off axis" sofa, AND the SQ is much better than with my PC. It is another/higher league.

Joachim

Hi Brian,

after a "break in" time of appr. 10 days the SQ improved a "hell" and the sound is really amazing, much better than with the H + S cable. Voices, mids and basses (kick drums) are great.

Since Mani and Paul are on "Cloud 9" with Peters Blaxius BNC cable I have ordered a pair for a comparison.

Joachim

Hi VJ,

when you have a look to the following link

http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=1744.msg17482#msg17482

under Specifications,
where Peter mentioned:(NOS1) - USB is powered by an internal dedicated linear power supply.

So, the USB cable from the PC to the NOS1 carries "datas" only.
Until now I did not face any problems with the "data only" USB cable (everything is in "sync").

Joachim

Hi,

This might be (is) the reason that the SQ with my laptop is better than with the PC, much better.
The laptop sees the 19Volts only.

Now I have to look for a linear power supply for the laptop.

Joachim

Got this CD today and was facing one big surprise.

http://www.isoteksystems.com/cgi-bin/products.pl?id=35

Joachim

Edit: Track 3 with the "Phase Test"  showed that my chain was out of .............., and it was the power amp. The SQ improved a lot by turning the power plug. More focus of all intruments and voices.

Hi Alain,

somewhere Peter wrote no USB power connection between the PC and NOS1 is needed. I will look for his remark.

I bought this cable (I think Juan recommended it) at NOS1 times and there was a benefit to hear. There aren't any problems with this cable for the NOS1 and NOS1a in my system.

Joachim

Hi,

somebody recommended this cable in the forum.

It has a great sound.

Joachim

http://www.yourfinalsystem.com/component/virtuemart/cables/audiophile-usb-cables/usb-reference-audiophile-usb-2-0-cable/highend-audiophile-usb-reference-cable-1-0m-dataonly-17-21-25-28-detail?Itemid=0

So "NO COIL" is an advantage. Right?

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Hi Peter,
no answer is an answer. 
I have interpretation problems with "they are all over the place" , because it was your intention to uncoil the cable for a comparision.

You still have Mani's 10m cables. Do you have the possibility to test the "old Orelo MKII" loop. (DAC 33 Ohm RCA, your 75Ohm cable and the old RCA connection at your active speakers, with and without coiled cables)

I think we, with "normal" speakers", have to look for other cables. I will try a 50 Ohm BNC cable with a solid copper wire, double shielded, and the dielectric mat'l is PE foam. The length is ???? due to open test results with "coiled" cables.

The dia of the cable is 10,2mm. A German manuf. is selling such a cable for €100,00 per 25m.

Or do you have another proposal for us "outsiders"

Joachim
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or "as never heard it before" - amazing voice and bass.

Joachim

P.S. How long did you hear with the coiled cable? The change of the SQ came just after the connection between the DAC and amps?

Edit: between both alternatives of my "mini (un)coiled" 4m cables I hear no substantial differences. ***Perfectly recoiled***

Hi,

funny, this coil was in my "arrangement" since the beginning, and I always considered this as a disadvantage.

Refer voices.

The song "Roxanne" by George Michael is from somewhere else now.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Songs-Last-Century-George-Michael/dp/B00003CK6Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1413033738&sr=1-1&keywords=george+michael+songs+from+the+last+century

Joachim

Hi,

I'm using this adapters and the connection is "dead certain" ( in German "bombenfest")

Joachim

http://www.lindy.co.uk/bnc-female-to-phono-male-adapter-3-pack-p5734 for GB and

http://www.lindy-usa.com/bnc-female-to-phono-male-adapter-3-pack-35536.html in the US

Hi Brian,

you are right, both types seems to be identical, except the core is 0,05mm smaller at the RG223.

I will report and hopefully the SQ will be lifted again.

Joachim

P.S.

Here in Germany is a reputated audio cable manuf. "HMS Electronic" ( http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/hms/hms.html ), and the mastermind Strassner wrote some critiques about electrical cables in general, but in German only.
His biggest concern are the "RF" immissions into the cable, because every cable is an antenna. (sample: a PVC coated wire is attached to most radios as an antenna)

Hi Peter,

that's a good idea for us "No Orelo MKII " owners and Mani is requested to be the pioneer.

We would like to know if there is a the difference of the SQ between his present 50 Ohm Huber+Suhner K_03252D (inner conductor: single strand, solid copper core coated in silver) cable and your new cable.

Thank you in advance Mani for your kind help.

Joachim

Hi Peter,

we are reading a lot of "mouth-watering" reports of the phnatastic SQ, but no details about the cable in use? It's a secret?

Hey, we're getting nervous!

Joachim

P.S. By the end of the week a RG 223 (double shielded, silver coated solid copper wire) will a arrive. (will test it against a "7 stranded"  copper coated steel wire cable)