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601  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 03, 2013, 05:28:17 am
Firstly, I just can't replicate anything approaching what Joachim and Alain are describing.
Mani.

HI Mani,

On my system (with various settings) the soundstage is very weird. I hear a "ball" in the Center and attached the left and right speakers, very incoherent.
Micheal Bubles voice has a width of 2 meters, even if I sit in the sweet spot.

Joachim
602  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 02, 2013, 11:27:14 am

Thank you Boleary,

with SFS 2 I'm back in business and the Magic is there again.

Joachim
603  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09-z8a activation on: February 02, 2013, 11:11:44 am
It took a while to change from y to r. It was not immediatly.

Thanks Joachim. But I no longer get any wallpaper in Attended. Could you check to see if you're still getting one in Attended please?

Mani.

Yes, still in Attended
604  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 02, 2013, 11:09:17 am


Now I'm going back to W8, check the driver setting and play XXH wit the identical settings.

Joachim

With the same settings I do hear on my system a mono effect. The stage is gone. The Instruments are concentrated more to the Center.

The bass on Wynton Marsalis - Sunflower - was on the left side and is now in the center.

I will try Mani's Settings

Joachim
605  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09-z8a activation on: February 02, 2013, 10:43:25 am
Thanks Alain. Most of the signs are indicating that I'm properly activated. The only thing that I didn't get was a red wallpaper boarder in Attended mode immediately after I'd activated (and played another track and then closed/opened XX). It was still yellow, hence my concern. But I really think I'm OK.

Mani.

It took a while to change from y to r. It was not immediatly.

Joachim
606  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 09-z8a activation on: February 01, 2013, 07:57:14 pm
Sorry if this has been answered already...

What's a sure fire way of knowing that XX activation has been successful in W8? Red-bordered wallpaper isn't possible, right? Is a red 'Minimize OS' button enough? I recall that the ability to appoint cores was not enough to be totally sure.

Any thoughts?

Mani.

Hi Mani,

on my W8 registered XXH the coverart border changed from yellow to red.

Joachim
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607  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 07:52:50 pm

Joachim, I hope you didn't flip any NOS1 buttons or Is NOS1 in XXHE Settings with your trials, because that would encourage for real mono ...

Brian, weren't you declared crazy the other day ?
haha
Peter

Hi Peter,
I 'm back (dual boot) to W7 and listening with the same settings as used to.
A good reference song with left/right separations is the  "Tsunami Song" played by Kenny Garrett. Right side an Erhu, center piano, left a violin. On both sides the location of instruments is just near the speakers. Instruments have a normal physical size. SQ is warm without harshness.

With W8 the instruments moved more to the center and the physical size of the instruments seems to be bigger as normal.

 The reg. code applied for W7 in late December is not working and I have to .... a new one.

Now I'm going back to W8, check the driver setting and play XXH wit the identical settings.

Speakers (no horns) see my sign.

Joachim




608  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 05:57:53 pm
Hi all,

Is it advisable to go to Windows Update after having done a clean install of W8 from the DVD?
Thanks, Ed

Nobody is paying attention to my simple Q, sniff, sniff......


This is Peters square.
I installed W8 on my laptop last year, and there are lot of updates installed in automatic mode, at least 20.

I would say no, but wait for Peter

Joachim
609  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 05:10:26 pm

Joachim, I know this sounds crazy, but my first impression of W8 with SFS of 430 is that it sounds harsh compared to SFS of 2! Have you tries SFS of 2?

It is not the harsh sound, in some kind I like it. The astonishing thing is, the room image is gone on my system, and the difference with 16x and 1x upsampling.
I'm just installing W7 for dual boot and will compare.

Joachim
610  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 04:36:58 pm
Playing music with the W7 shell.

There is a mono effect, as mentioned by Peter, which is less when oversampling is not engaged.(44100 native sound)

Back to W7?

Joachim

P.S. The overall sound is more agressive, perfect for Rock (Blind Faith  - Ginger Bakers drum solo in "Do what you like)

Joachim - Interesting ...
But please explain what you describe as "mono effect", because I said nothing of the kind and only the explicit opposite. And might you be confused by my mentioned "W7" earlier today (and its "mono") , this was nothing about the W7 Shell. Just W7 (it looks like you got confused by that ?).

Peter

It was the first immediate impression. The room image is much smaller in width. (George Michael - Songs from the last century) The music is nearly mono with 16x, with the native sample rate 1x the room image improves.
The overall SQ is more aggressive, harsh, bass is more present (in concerts you do not hear that much bass). The sweetness/resinous of the violins is gone. (Rachel Z - The Trail of her blood in the snow)

I'm not quite sure if it improves with changes of my settings. I do not use PA (the components are all in phase)

Joachim
611  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 03:17:31 pm
Playing music with the W7 shell.

There is a mono effect, as mentioned by Peter, which is less when oversampling is not engaged.(44100 native sound)

Back to W7?

Joachim

P.S. The overall sound is more agressive, perfect for Rock (Blind Faith  - Ginger Bakers drum solo in "Do what you like)
612  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 02:51:09 pm
The program for the  "W7 shell" installation for W8 works within the identical language only.
But you can change the language in W8 by installing the appropriate package. (Dutch / English)

Joachim
613  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 02:06:54 pm
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I will get problems because W7 and W8 differs with the language. Or, Peter, is it sufficient/successful to install at W8 the identical language?

multi language package the English in there won't turn into German, let alone Finnish (which is of course what you use today - haha !).


Hi Peter,

thanx for the answer. It is possible with W8 to change the language now.

I  try to install the  W7 shell and hope that the new activation code will still work.

Joachim
614  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 01:15:40 pm
Hi Joachim.

Does this remove the Metro UI layer from the system ? I think that the explorer 7 shell is about that... ? Not that it is so annoying, but it was altering SQ...

Alain

Hi Alain,

No. This should be a challenge for Peter, if possible.

It is for normal listeners a bit to complicated to install the W7 shell. I will get problems because W7 and W8 differs with the language. Or, Peter, is it sufficient/successful to install at W8 the identical language?

Joachim
615  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: My first Windows 8 experience on: February 01, 2013, 11:43:15 am


Thank God for the W7 shell - on first bootup you are at a total loss as to what to do.


Mani.

Hi Mani,

press Windows button + D on the keyboard and you are ...... .

I'm just installing XXH without W7 shell and will write the outcome later.

Joachim

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