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 on: November 14, 2017, 06:45:33 pm 
Started by coliny - Last post by PeterSt
Colin, thank you. Don't spend too much time on it and notice that I think this only occurs with Attended playback.
And the example you gave was with an MQA, so maybe that helps too ?


 on: November 14, 2017, 06:38:16 pm 
Started by dsm - Last post by PeterSt
Richard, no idea. To me it looks like you are the only one with this. Maybe you now are bothered by the Blocked File thing ? See the properties of the file.


 on: November 14, 2017, 06:02:15 pm 
Started by coliny - Last post by coliny
Hi Peter

I'll try to detect sequence that cause it but not optimistic.


 on: November 14, 2017, 06:00:39 pm 
Started by dsm - Last post by Rmalits
Peter, I now downloaded XXEngine3-209-X1.rar.
After I had copied this new XXEngine3 exe, in XXHE the output device is not found any more. Under setup this field then is empty and there is nothing to choose.
I tried it one more time after a reboot and got the same result. When I copy the older 2.09 engine3 exe over it, it's working fine again.

Kind regards

 on: November 14, 2017, 04:02:10 pm 
Started by dsm - Last post by PeterSt
Yesterday I had another phenomeon: After selecting new songs in the playlist and pressing "play" the last seconds of the previous song were played (out of the buffer?)

Richard, that is the one I had too and once you hear that, better press stop.

An hour ago, coincidentally I could reason out what this should cause (something replays from an already played buffer) and I should be able to solve that one.
Btw the underlaying cause is that we use the huge Q1 (x  xQ1) - in my yesterday's case even 48x50 (you can't do that yet).

But please let ke know ASAP whether you used the new XXEngine3 or not, because if Yes, it apparently does not help for this situation (which is sort of logical).


 on: November 14, 2017, 03:57:09 pm 
Started by Nick - Last post by PeterSt
Thank you so much for your extensive reporting, Richard. This should be very helpful. And if not today, then "tomorrow".

The Wallpaper thing remains to be intrigueing ...

Best regards,

 on: November 14, 2017, 03:52:09 pm 
Started by dsm - Last post by PeterSt
Hello Richard,

It was the idea that you downloaded XXEngine3-209-X1.rar and use that. See a couple of posts back. Did you do that ?


 on: November 14, 2017, 02:06:09 pm 
Started by dsm - Last post by Rmalits
Today I have got this burst of noise again, scaring loud and this time it didn't stop itsself until I pressed the stop button.
I was playing the same song, the last one in the playlist, like 4 or 5 times before it occured.

Yesterday I had another phenomeon: After selecting new songs in the playlist and pressing "play" the last seconds of the previous song were played (out of the buffer?) and playback stopped after this without any error message.

As reported I didn't have any of these problems for aboit 16 month before I upgraded t o 2.09 and changed the Q settings a lot.

Kind regards

 on: November 14, 2017, 12:45:20 pm 
Started by Nick - Last post by Rmalits
Hi Peter,

I read your so detailed and straightforward report from last Sunday a couple of times and did some intense testing yesterday.
As you described, all seems to be a bit crazy now. And that's the way I see it too. Maybe there are several innovations and changes that are interacting now, building up something special - predominantly in a very positive way, especially with your actual Q settings.

I try to recall my experiences during the last two months:

- First, the 3G upgrade brought already significant changes like more precise, "detached" sound, stronger basses, nice highs. But all this in a more decent way, not as extremly as it is now together with 2.09 and the latest Q settings.
- Release 2.9 brought the biggest impact on this, espacially for highs and basses. As I stated before, I switched a dozen of times between release 2.07 and 2.09, because it wasn't so easy to find a judgement about the "new" SQ.
- Finally your so different new Q parameters brought amazing effects.

I never had activated OSD text since more than a year. So, for sure all this mentioned above does not depend mainly on it. I just tried OSD text yesterday once, for a short time only, because with the actual setup it really has a horrible impact on SQ.

An interesting point probably related to this: For me, as a NAS user, cover art never shows up in unattended mode anyway. Instead of seeing it on the screen I get a short glitch a few seconds after the song starts (when the cover  art should probably show up).
With lower buffer size (like 14x5 or below), there is nothing like this to hear, no glitch at all.
The higher the buffer size the stronger the negativ influence of this kind of disturbing activity obviously is. That is perhaps the reason for the behaviour with OSD text too.

The last two days I played with :
Q1 x xQ1 = 30x40.
Q3,4,5, = 1,1,1.
SFS = 20.
ClockRes = 15ms.
Custom Filter = Highest for 705600.
And just mentioning : Appointment Scheme = 3-5.
And thus OSD Text = Off. Wallpaper (front and back) On.

Peter, with your new settings most of the tracks I listen sound incredibly good now. Trumpets don't sound hard and harsh any more, but airy and very "real" instead. Voices are tremendously present and realistic.
With these new settings it's again a new experience, amazing clear, airy and natural sound, with acoustic instruments too (what's always a good indicator). So that's another big step foreward.

What's so impressing is this extremly dynamic sound. For years I was searching for more dynamics in the tunes. Now, sometimes with some songs I am thinking... "Isn't that maybe too much now, especially for the basses?"
Stong, precise highs usually bring precise and punchy basses. So probably the +6dB in the high frequencies is one of the reasons for that.

It's only the basses what still give me to think now... they become so strong and punchy. That was already my first impression, when I got 2.09 to run on my audio PC. And with the new settings the basses get even more punchy, maybe the additional 16dB you described above.
Maybe that's the point Juan was described above.
For sure, all this depends on the type of music, on the recording, on the acoustics in my living room (I have got stong basses anyway due to the geometrics of the room)., So perhaps it's just the room modes which exagerate now and sometimes become annoying.
Let me say it like this: about 90% of the songs produce spectacular SQ now. It's he minority that causes too strong, umpleasant, sometimes annoying basses. Maybe there is no pleasant way to listen to these songs any more with higher volume (in my room?).

Therefore I was trying different filters yesterday. For the first time, ArcPrediction is an option for me, specially for easy listening. And the second highest custom filter (25010) always works fine. That's the one I was using most of the time anyway. And now again in prooves to be the best for me.

You are right, we have to re-adapt ourselfs too, to a new style of listening. I am on this path since 2.09 has been installed. What makes this a bit difficult are the so huge changes of SQ in such a short period.

Thanks a lot for all and especially for your detailed explanations last weekend.
It's great how openly all these issues are discussed here.

Kind regards

 on: November 14, 2017, 12:00:26 pm 
Started by coliny - Last post by PeterSt
OK, Thank you.

This is a sort of compiler bug - it's described in the program. Ever back this was solved by putting in an extra dummy line of code, but apparently things changed in there and now it happens again. Or can happen.

Do you perhaps have an idea how this behavior can be persistently/consistently copied ? perhaps with a certain track ?
We must have some means to decently check whether my "solution" to this helps.

Thanks and regards,

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