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 61 
 on: July 17, 2014, 10:24:18 pm 
Started by KnB - Last post by Jud
Received a picture from yesterday night  Happy



If the phrase "Enjoying the music" were in a dictionary, that photo should appear next to it.  Happy

 62 
 on: July 17, 2014, 08:13:08 pm 
Started by KnB - Last post by KnB
It's so very nice to be two with similar music taste.
Received a picture from yesterday night  Happy


 63 
 on: July 17, 2014, 06:24:42 pm 
Started by charliemb - Last post by charliemb
Hi Peter

This is similar to the issue reported by JohanZ in “ New filter: error message “ thread.
However, to the extent that this problem and JohanZ’s problem are the same, this confirms that it has nothing to do with the new filter (as suspected in that other thread) because this is a fresh 1.186a install and there is no new filter.

The problem is:
   1)  after I hit alt-e or alt-s while playing unattended, when I hit alt-p to play, Bill Gates pops up a window and says that xxEngine3.exe has stopped working and gives me the option to close it.  I select the option to close it.  And since I have no engine I hit alt-x to start all over;
   2) Once xxHighEnd comes back (I’ll save the long explanation and just say: ) the Kernel Streaming driver setting is lost and the WASAPI driver or the High Definition driver is erroneously selected in settings.  And so when I try to play I get, paraphrasing, “Product of Q1, xQ1, buffer size is too large …” message followed by several other error messages like “2, 32, 352500, …”,  and “could not…” and sometimes “Engine _ is for XP {or vista or whatever}”.

Now as best that I recall, bringing up xxHE from unattended while music is playing, then clicking on the UI stop button (not alt-s), this sometimes keeps the proper KS settings and it is possible to select a new album under [L], hit play, and it can work.   BUT sometimes not, as best I recall, sometimes not.

THIS IS RELATED TO BEHAVIOUR I WAS SEEING WITH 1.186i
What is interesting is that the reason I reverted to “a” was because I was seeing a problem with “i” as follows.  I figured “i” was beta-beta and I could not expect perfect behavior.   But it turns out “a” is worse for me.  But the good news is that supposedly stable “a” should be giving us a clue.  Do you see a similarity?

The problem with -->i<-- is:
1)  after I hit alt-e or alt-s while playing unattended, when I hit alt-p to play, the DAC has trouble synchronizing.  It  stutters and refuses to lock at 352 or 384.  Hmmm.   So I alt-x.
2) Once xxHighEnd comes back, the DAC no longer synchs when I attempt playback at 352 or 384.  Hmmm.  Sometimes if I play a full track at 44.1 it is possible to play again at 352.  Else, a reboot solves this, but eventually, it would fail upon attempting to play, forcing me to eventually go to HQPlayer or JRiver which play almost perfectly at 352 or 384.  I was hoping that reverting  to 1.186a would allow me to use XX again for a while until the 352/384 filters come out….  But no, a similar problem occurs.

Nothing is ever wrong with any 186 version after a reboot and selecting  a CD and playing fully through to the end.   All tracks play perfectly.  Something with 186 goes awry after the first explicit stop, either by alt-e, alt-p, or by clicking the UI, where clicking the UI has better luck.

BTW, I first thought this was a DAC problem because the upgrade is new, and so it seemed.  But after I got HQPlayer and JRiver working, which did take some tweaking like explicitly telling to use 32 bit packets and increasing buffer size, all was well, and after trying different USB cables, and now a new dedicated USB card (which I will report about soon),  all attention turned to XX as the problem.    The DAC maker says that synchronization is usually the fault of the data stream not being consistent enough.  But how can xx be the culprit here if xx specializes in a very steady stream to avoid jitter???   Well, clearly something goes awry eventually.   And BTW,  0.9z-9b has no issues. 

 64 
 on: July 17, 2014, 02:37:25 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by manisandher
I wonder whether giving the "search for the right bass" a rest and simply listening to and enjoying the music for a good while, might in the end get you where you want to go (the right bass response) with less back-and-forth.

Hey Jud, thanks for sharing... I really do appreciate your thoughts.

Yep, I'm all for simply listening and enjoying the music, and seeing where that takes me. Definitely. And I think I'm nearly in a position to be able to do this, now that I have a tonal balance I'm happy with.

I suppose one of my biggest 'issues' is that I already have (have had for a while now) a system that I totally love the sound of - my vinyl digitization setup in my little 'studio' in my basement. Essentially, a pair of BD-Design mono amps driving a pair of AKG K-1000 headphones. This is my reference sound, the one I've been striving to emulate through speakers for quite a few years now (with different amps). So, I know the exact sound I'm looking for... and I generally know how far away (and in which 'direction') I am from getting it. When it's too far, I find it really hard to simply listen and enjoy the music through speakers.

Blessings and curses...

Mani.

 65 
 on: July 17, 2014, 01:56:32 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by Jud
I've just increased the output of the LF by 2dB (takes just seconds to do via USB cable into speakers) and...

... WOW!!!

This is bass like I've never heard before. (Nick/Paul, all the criticisms that we all had have totally disappeared. On a good dance track, my chest is thumped to pieces.) I'm going to keep things like this for a while, but may reduce it by 1dB if I feel it's too overwhelming.

Just a quick update on this...

I've finally settled for an increase of 1.7dB in the LF. Doesn't sound like much, but it totally changes the impact the music has. Bass lines and percussion really start driving the music forward. After 30-60 minutes of listening I realise that my neck muscles are hurting through all the involuntary head jiving.

But the bass 'quality' still takes getting used to. It's so lean and fast with absolutely no artificial 'bloom/fat' whatsoever. This is great from a rhythm perspective, but from a tonal perspective, it's difficult getting used. I'm totally convinced this lack of bloom is due to lack of distortion, which is a good thing. But I don't know... sometimes an oil painting is more gratifying than a photo...

Mani.

Mani, you've got a lot more experience than I do listening to great systems, so please take this not as advice, which I wouldn't presume to give, but just as a thought for your consideration - and would be interested in your response:

Do you think at this point, since after all you are concentrating on getting the proper bass response, that you are concerned too much with how the bass sounds, and less with whether the music overall sounds great - real and natural?  I wonder whether giving the "search for the right bass" a rest and simply listening to and enjoying the music for a good while, might in the end get you where you want to go (the right bass response) with less back-and-forth.

 66 
 on: July 17, 2014, 12:41:31 pm 
Started by KnB - Last post by juanpmar
Hi Kjell,

Those words of your wife are the perfect complement for an audiophile. Even for those who are not as lucky as you, those words should come in a recording with each new component as an extra for the perfect happiness. Just an idea  Happy

Juan

 67 
 on: July 17, 2014, 12:15:40 pm 
Started by KnB - Last post by AlainGr
If I was to hear this coming from my better half, I am not sure what my reaction would be, but you are a very lucky man Happy

Alain

 68 
 on: July 17, 2014, 12:00:36 pm 
Started by KnB - Last post by KnB
Last night my wife did use the system for the first time. (while I am away on work)
and guess what, she was sitting up for hours just playing different kind of music, but mostly jazz and opera as I understood.

I think you have done a very good choice buying this system she told me; it sounds so very good!!  sounds good !
Just wanted to share

 69 
 on: July 17, 2014, 11:52:51 am 
Started by manisandher - Last post by AlainGr
Hi Mani, it could be that all your life we have been used to hear distorted bass...

I remember talking with someone about vintage speakers for music of the seventies. It was only for fun, nothing serious about it. I was telling him that I was hearing so much saturation from the albums with the 24/96 hi res (Led Zep 1, 2 and 3)...

Alain

 70 
 on: July 17, 2014, 11:34:35 am 
Started by manisandher - Last post by manisandher
I've just increased the output of the LF by 2dB (takes just seconds to do via USB cable into speakers) and...

... WOW!!!

This is bass like I've never heard before. (Nick/Paul, all the criticisms that we all had have totally disappeared. On a good dance track, my chest is thumped to pieces.) I'm going to keep things like this for a while, but may reduce it by 1dB if I feel it's too overwhelming.

Just a quick update on this...

I've finally settled for an increase of 1.7dB in the LF. Doesn't sound like much, but it totally changes the impact the music has. Bass lines and percussion really start driving the music forward. After 30-60 minutes of listening I realise that my neck muscles are hurting through all the involuntary head jiving.

But the bass 'quality' still takes getting used to. It's so lean and fast with absolutely no artificial 'bloom/fat' whatsoever. This is great from a rhythm perspective, but from a tonal perspective, it's difficult getting used. I'm totally convinced this lack of bloom is due to lack of distortion, which is a good thing. But I don't know... sometimes an oil painting is more gratifying than a photo...

Mani.

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