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 71 
 on: December 09, 2014, 01:58:48 pm 
Started by fralippo - Last post by AlainGr
Peter,

When I will have my NOS1 with an "a" at the end of it, it will mean that I can use a less powerful PC to play my music ?

Alain

 72 
 on: December 09, 2014, 01:22:01 pm 
Started by Nick - Last post by fralippo
Nick, could you post some pictures of your mobo clock? I'm very curious about that... although in the future I'd first like to add a good clock to a PCI usb board... Thanks!

 73 
 on: December 09, 2014, 01:06:57 pm 
Started by PeterSt - Last post by PeterSt
Haha. But no, there won't be anything you can do on your side.
My "construction" is being made right now. And in adjustable fashion. yes

So not to forget : I applied something else first, and you don't have that. Can be read as "can't have". Not really true of course because it is still so that everything I do/try I won't do for myself only.

Peter

 74 
 on: December 09, 2014, 11:47:07 am 
Started by PeterSt - Last post by manisandher
... but as long as I see it for the better, why not exploit it. Will come with screw driver so adjustment to own flavour is possible !

Hey, next you'll be experimenting with tubes/valves in the NOS1a... "as long as it's for the better"...

Luckily, I'm working from home all day tomorrow, so will be waiting with bated breath for instructions on your new tweak. I'm not sure whether the tweak requires some mechanical feedback from the speakers to be effective, but as I don't have any feedback at all (the NOS1a 10m away in my basement in a pretty much sound-proofed room), my experience might provide you with additional info on what's going on. (Though there's no way I'll be taking the PC and NOS1a up into the main room to make a detailed comparison.)

Mani.

 75 
 on: December 09, 2014, 10:01:10 am 
Started by PeterSt - Last post by PeterSt
Anthony ... Yes.
But like with determining the best fluid (for floating) appeared to be an undoable job, a "clock suspension" is as undoable. I mean, everybody can take some foam or whatever material which is suspected to suspend or damp etc., but in my personal view there's much more to it to do it well, and I don't see people working on these matters in well fasion. Like with the fluid, and the people with the (math) knowledge can't even start thinking about it.
But I have a few ideas ...

For now I decided to not bring the lot to the basement and instead try to get the merits of what's happening at this moment. So some 3.5 hours again and I love what I hear. This was not so AT ALL a few days ago, and all I changed was some footers. The change - especially after my secret tweak - is so drastic that it should be an explicit target itself by now.

One addition which should be off topic but I think is not :

The NOS1(a) is always shipped with some plastic protective little footers. Install guide tells to pull them off and replace with your own. Today, 50 "a" upgrades further, we notice that almost everyone leaves them under.
And actually this has merit when I think about the material used for them. It would be fairly close to my ideas about that.
And then to think I never used them myself ...

Anyway, although this topic is not about it, I start to feel that footers can do tricks which are not possible by other means. Just think simple : a cable with reflections sounds totally different than a cable without. Super logic (once you have a little technical insight). Now this is about mechanical reflections. In itself not new of course, but I feel we can utilize it. Abuse it, so to speak.

So this is how I deliberately did not bring the lot to the basement because I seem to see a new little project : footer tricks. So if I put under those rubber balls (which never ever worked for longer than 2 minutes - that bad !) and I perceive a killing bass of it (remember, vibes - all very straight/stiff/good) then it can well be that my floor is interacting with the speakers and from there the DAC and maybe even oscillator is influenced, but as long as I see it for the better, why not exploit it. Will come with screw driver so adjustment to own flavour is possible !
This is not-normal you know. It is just something crazy new and how could I know in advance that my secret tweak could incur for this.

And you know, right during the writing of the last sentence I already (think to) know how to do this and make it adjustable right on the spot. Next I will do is handing out some instructions how to make it and ... watch my tomorrow's post in here ...

Peter


 76 
 on: December 09, 2014, 09:35:18 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by PeterSt
I endorse Anthony's words... This hasn't been recorded on our planet ? wacko

Wink

I'm afraid you can't get much of it when Dutch is not your language; can't get the gag then. For fun I'll try to explain a bit :

So this is about "Sinterklaas" we have here and which ever back was a saint. Very similar to Santa Klaus but now for December 5th. Loves children and such, and the "Pieten" (the Pete's) are his helpers. OK.

Most what is given to the children is candy of various sorts.
All comes along with children required to sing nice Sinterklaas songs before going to bed, and when executed well the next morning there will be candy etc. in the shoe which was set in front of the fire place (he and is helpers come through the chimney of course).

So you have heard the type of music of this CD - call it "House". All tracks on it are actually existing very nice songs, normally sung by sweet (often children) choirs. This was made of it ...

But what you couldn't get is that the red thread through all the songs is about candy. You know, that candy which these days seems necesessary to survive a dance party (former House Party) until 7am. The Pieten are the bad young boys here and Sinterklaas is forced to go along with modern times (he is 100s of years old) and has problems with that. The "old sucker !" is all over the place.

As a matter of (my) fact it is a great CD for children who just stopped believing in Sinterklaas' existence and to learn how a nice sweet world can be destroyed by the surrounding. Children get that easily and although the CD seems to teach the other way around, it is in my view a best thing to show how real life will be when not careful.

Peter

 77 
 on: December 09, 2014, 09:06:54 am 
Started by Robocop - Last post by PeterSt
Hi there Robert,

Yes, I would always use a modern i7. Doesn't need to be a million cores per se (also not 6), but this is about so many other things related to speed. So I can't emphasize enough how my i7 does *everything* in a whimp when running at 430MHz only. That is ~10 times slower than normal ! So for example, the fastest laptop already will lose from that no matter it's clockspeed is 10 times higher. And this is thus because there's so much more ...

Anyway what I meant to say is that the price is ridiculously high and you get about "nothing" for it. "Flexible" it says. Oh ? well, I wonder where. Compare with our "XXHighEnd PC". That is power and that is ultimately flexible. And totally silent. And cheaper.
So of course I compare it to that - Can't help that !
(and not trying to sell you one because it is way over your budget - also taking into account the shipping costs).

But is it worth the effort ? yes. Not only because I claim so, but because everybody without exception "admits" it when done (going from underpowered to say overpowered).

And for that $2000 you will be able to do it. It is only that it takes you a month to get everything together, especially about the being silent and the case where it is to fit in. So when in a small case it is NOT easy.
Start with the idea that the processor will be 135W (not the 80W from that CAPS) and work your way up from there.

Regards,
Peter

 78 
 on: December 09, 2014, 08:47:02 am 
Started by fralippo - Last post by PeterSt
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Maybe there is no need for higher "power".

There always is. This is because "we" are always working against the limits. And sadly it is so that these limits always show the better SQ.
So trust me : My SQ will be better because I have the more powerful PC. I just can dial in "more" from XXHighEnd ...

Peter

PS: This counts for everyone not owning a NOS1a.

 79 
 on: December 09, 2014, 05:01:29 am 
Started by Robocop - Last post by Robocop
Yes price has been mentioned as an issue. The power supply alone is an extra box although linear.

Peter when you say "no power" do you mean it should be an i7?
 
I would like to build a server for about $2000 NZ dollars which is about 1200 Euros. Or is this not worth the effort?

I like the idea of fanless.

Robert

 80 
 on: December 09, 2014, 01:56:27 am 
Started by Robocop - Last post by christoffe
Hi Joachim,

No strange performance related experiences with the laptop?
I guess a lot of system optimizations are not possible. Ok these might be less relevant SQ wise in a LPSU/battery situation but stops, hiccups etc are an annoyance too.

The HDplex is for the laptop I assume...**correct**

regards, Coen

Hi Coen,

The XXH settings I'm using are "weird", 8x AP only, no XTweaks and replay in "Attended" mode only. This settings do not favour the SQ from the angle of the hardware, but there is nothing strange during the replay, no ticks, nothing, a clean sound only.

The laptop is not as fast as ............. , but the loading speed of the tracks it is quite accepable for me, even with 192KHz/24 bit files.
I just tried to play tracks in "Unattended" but this mode doesn't work, so for this situation the CPU needs more power (and RAM).

What I expect is, that the external PS favours the SQ, and therefore  "low demanding power" components are essential. Such a PC should work when reading Peters comment here: http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=2937.msg31238#msg31238

The Intel Core i7-4790K processor (or Xeon E3-1241 v3 or Michaels Xeon type) should meet the requirement, and 16Gb RAM is a must.

We have to wait for Michaels report about his PC assembly. (hopefully before Christmas) Wink

Joachim

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