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 71 
 on: April 13, 2014, 09:49:27 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by PeterSt
One other thing Anthony :

My monitor is set to never switch off, and indeed it will never do that (W8). I didn't have it like that for always, but I'd say for way longer than since last December anyway. However, what I noticed is that for W7 this won't "work". I mean, whatever I set, in W7 it will always go off in ? ... an hour ?

Just thought to mention this because you feel the display setting regarding this is related ...

Peter

 72 
 on: April 13, 2014, 09:37:42 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by acg
And still I never heard of the problem any more since 1.186. And otherwise I maybe recall one occasion. Re: WIN8 stops.

But there's also a report that it is related to the processor speed. Actually two, because in one occasion I suspected it myself. So Anthony, I am sure I ran into the thing daily when my speed was 720MHz or so. But since I run it at 430MHz never again. Back at the time I couln't make this consistent because it was always a bit waiting what would come out of the speed but since I know how to consistently do that ... maybe it is just that. So this is with the BIOS settings as described here : XXHighEnd PC BIOS Settings with the notice that origins from January 17 (so earlier than that topic) and that "weeks" before that I rean with that 430MHz already (but didn't know how to deliberately do it but friggled until it did). So if you like you can set those literal BIOS settings and see.

Another quite interesting thing would be that 1.186(a) itself did not deal with the 16 cores properly. Btw not did the previous versions. However, now it does, so now it impacts the issue ? can well be. This is how Scheme 3-5 can work out differently because this scheme works with the "first" cores which are the same as with not Hyperthreaded. 1-2 works with one of these "physical" cores while the other one is the Hyperthreaded one.
And of course, you used the lot not-Hyperthreaded (with your Xeon) because it just would not work because of this 16 core omission in the software.

All IOW, quite some things changed and actually so many (including your own settings) that it can be anything and also the combination.

Anyway I never saw the problem again since say the end of 2013, and I think the same with others (while *everybody* was suffering from it).

Now what to make of this all ...
Regards,
Peter


I will change my processor speed tomorrow and report back.

 73 
 on: April 13, 2014, 09:36:47 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by acg
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I touch nothing and wait for the music to start again; when it starts again it is all static and distortion;

This one I do NOT recognize. But a hint : Try Appointment Scheme 3-5 (but if you were already using that ...)

Yes, already using that.  At the moment I am using exactly the settings in your signature Peter and I am not game to change them for now because I think that it is still hibernation related.

 74 
 on: April 13, 2014, 09:34:06 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by acg

Here I am pretty confident that this is
a. caused by the similar or same phenomenon that causes the stops;
b. is the result of being over the limits on the SFS in combination with Q3,4,5 = 1 (think SFS being under 0.10).

At least this is how I recognize this.

Yes, it sounds similar just like a buffer under-run, but more like there are more gaps in the data than data making it through.  The static is prevalent and the music is just in the background.  And small pops too, not the big ones.

 75 
 on: April 13, 2014, 09:25:32 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by PeterSt
And still I never heard of the problem any more since 1.186. And otherwise I maybe recall one occasion. Re: WIN8 stops.

But there's also a report that it is related to the processor speed. Actually two, because in one occasion I suspected it myself. So Anthony, I am sure I ran into the thing daily when my speed was 720MHz or so. But since I run it at 430MHz never again. Back at the time I couln't make this consistent because it was always a bit waiting what would come out of the speed but since I know how to consistently do that ... maybe it is just that. So this is with the BIOS settings as described here : XXHighEnd PC BIOS Settings with the notice that origins from January 17 (so earlier than that topic) and that "weeks" before that I rean with that 430MHz already (but didn't know how to deliberately do it but friggled until it did). So if you like you can set those literal BIOS settings and see.

Another quite interesting thing would be that 1.186(a) itself did not deal with the 16 cores properly. Btw not did the previous versions. However, now it does, so now it impacts the issue ? can well be. This is how Scheme 3-5 can work out differently because this scheme works with the "first" cores which are the same as with not Hyperthreaded. 1-2 works with one of these "physical" cores while the other one is the Hyperthreaded one.
And of course, you used the lot not-Hyperthreaded (with your Xeon) because it just would not work because of this 16 core omission in the software.

All IOW, quite some things changed and actually so many (including your own settings) that it can be anything and also the combination.

Anyway I never saw the problem again since say the end of 2013, and I think the same with others (while *everybody* was suffering from it).

Now what to make of this all ...
Regards,
Peter

 76 
 on: April 13, 2014, 09:05:31 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by PeterSt
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I touch nothing and wait for the music to start again; when it starts again it is all static and distortion;

This one I do NOT recognize. But a hint : Try Appointment Scheme 3-5 (but if you were already using that ...)

 77 
 on: April 13, 2014, 09:03:32 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by PeterSt
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Another thing that has happened a few times is that instead of the music completely stopping it gets badly distorted and sounds like good old AM radio static with a recognisable tune playing (the tune that should be playing, not something plucked from the radio waves).  This is a very weird sound but as soon as I touch the mouse or a button the sound comes good again.

Here I am pretty confident that this is
a. caused by the similar or same phenomenon that causes the stops;
b. is the result of being over the limits on the SFS in combination with Q3,4,5 = 1 (think SFS being under 0.10).

At least this is how I recognize this.

 78 
 on: April 13, 2014, 08:57:33 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by PeterSt
Hi Anthony,

I think it is by 100% guarantee that if you use Alt-d or Alt-u after a minute or so of playback and at a first playback after a reboot, the thing will never happen during that boot session. Did you try this ?

Peter

 79 
 on: April 13, 2014, 08:14:23 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by Gerard
Yeah that is the reason why i do not like to try W8 again.  unhappy Hope someone come's up with a solution for this.


 80 
 on: April 13, 2014, 03:11:09 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by acg
Ok.  I got the static to occur again.  It happens when the following things have happened:  restart the computer; playing a playlist and the music stops for the first time;  I touch nothing and wait for the music to start again; when it starts again it is all static and distortion; move the mouse and it comes good instantly.  Playback stops again after a few minutes but this time it stops with a slight blip of static.  I wait a few minutes and it comes back by itself all static again and I move the mouse and its sounds fine.  This is all with the display set to never turn off.

I will try now duplicate my actions to see if I can make it happen again.

EDIT:  I shut down the pc, started again, set the same playlist to play and sure enough a few minutes in the music stops.  I leave it and it restarts by itself and is playing without stop or static.

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