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 on: August 28, 2014, 11:58:38 am 
Started by PeterSt - Last post by Rob181
Hi Rob, 10 ahead of you at this moment.

Thanks for the update...sounds like it may be ready by Xmas with any luck...a nice present for myself...Rob

 on: August 28, 2014, 10:43:04 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by CoenP
Thanks Alain,

a small update:

Last evening I managed to connect the computers on the LAN and played some tunes on the win8 music PC from an internal and an external HDD on the "server" PC.

SQ was not very satisfying though. Naturalness: mwah, details/refinement: mwah, instrumental colors: mwah. I know the 1a can do better, much better. It was also VERY sensitive to parameter changes. Changing the core scheme form 2-3 to 1-2 for instance rendered the sound brittle and nervous. On the positive side this indicates tweaking potential but is is not what we would expect from the 1a.
Otoh I still have to scrutinize the smpsses in adjacent rooms that are on the same power circuit and put the USB " isolation" back in place. So on the hardware side of things I have work to do.

All in all another bumpy road with win8 and hopefully not to nowhere.

regards, Coen

FWIW: I briefly connected the 1a to my MacBookPro and played via Audirvana+1.5.10. This sounded very natural and musical, but with a floppy bass and to much echoes. Now, this sound has some crucial elements of my target sound: if we just could add the xxhe bass and realistic macro and micro dynamics...

 on: August 27, 2014, 12:57:11 pm 
Started by CoenP - Last post by AlainGr
Hi Coen,

Sorry if I could not answer earlier to your other questions (different timezone), but Peter has the best answers Happy


Alain (or Alian)

 on: August 27, 2014, 11:02:19 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by CoenP
Got that ?




recap: the running services matter less for the 1a so we can have a better experience without the SQ penalty.


regards, Coen

 on: August 27, 2014, 10:30:15 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by PeterSt

Not really responding to yout post(s) :

The LAN thing (including that ToolTip you read) has been setup for operation *outside* of using Remote Desktop (RDC/RDP). This, while there's also a button for RDC;

It is to be regarded that when RDC is used, not only the button for that needs to be active, but also the LAN is to be On all the time.

To understand the button for RDC : This again *adds* services, and is thus detrimental for normal NOS1.
Thus, using the LAN (all the time or not) is one thing, and using RDC is another. But when using RDC (I think) the LAN can be shut off in the program, while nothing prevents you from making that combination (but RDC won't come up after playback).

Got that ?
If so, the reason for this combination allowed is because the RDC thing has been setup for the PAN usage (Bluetooth). And *now* things start to be different, because the PAN consumes way less than the LAN.

I suppose it is hard to make clear, but while the same set of settings combinations allow the same for LAN and RDC, this is a coincidence; nothing was made for that explicitly (but it works).

For the NOS1a there's more, like not even shutting off the Desktop Services (and thus Remaining Services) once being in MinOS Mode (only then !), which suddenly allows the Wallpaper to be operative, which it otherwise is not in Windows 8 (but don't use Q3,4,5 = 1,1,1 or oterwise the Wallpaper again doesn't work).


 on: August 27, 2014, 10:13:40 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by CoenP
I realize I've been careless with this. Keep Lan is Unchecked, I did however not play unattended and made a connection with the IP address of the music PC.

If I read the "persist" button tooltip correctly XX will bring up the LAN again after unattended playing when it is checked...

When the LAN services are present, XX can collect the files from a shared directory on the "server PC" right?

regards, Coen

 on: August 27, 2014, 09:54:41 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by PeterSt

Because of the RAMdisk you do not need the LAN when playing?

Not the RAMDisk in particular, but any Playback Drive (when not in the LAN Wink).
But generally Yes.

Also though : This is not related any more for the NOS1a as far as I can tell because you can just leave on the LAN in general (so Keep LAN Services - Persist).
Uhm, saying this, I don't see how it can go otherwise anyway with RDC. So or I read wrongly, or something was said wrongly; With RDC the LAN is not allowed to drop at any time, or you won't be able to reconnect after a first nice play session).
Edit : But I think I see where the miscommunication is : Persist does not do anything when Keep LAN is in order.


 on: August 27, 2014, 09:39:09 am 
Started by CoenP - Last post by CoenP
Hi Alian,

Thanks for the response.

I have my all purpose PC with my external music hard drive connected to it with Esata. My all purpose PC is with W7 pro 64.
The all purpose PC is connected with the music PC with an ethernet cable (1gbit for the two of them). The music PC is with W8 pro 64.

This is exactly how I have set it up now.

My all purpose PC allows me to go on internet with an added  wireless USB network card.

This is also the not executed plan, but:

PS: I am not sure if having two network cards on the all purpose PC could complicate things for the connection between the 2 PCs. I did something additional to prevent this, but I suggest that you try first to see if it works for you. If not, please say so ok ?

This is also my concern. Who will be issuing the IP numbers? This is of lower priority, for now I don't really need the internet and music will be local to the win 7 " host".

Like you I connect on the music PC through RDC. The music PC has no monitor, keyboard nor mouse connected to it. I simply turn it on then I do all through the all purpose PC.

This seems to be a distinct advantage for SQ in win8. SQ wise the music started to flow but overall it is not on par with win 7 yet.


When you are in normal OS mode, you mention that you want to keep the LAN on but it has to be "non persistent".
Then you go back in minimize OS after.

I use a ramdisk on the music PC Happy

So: keep Lan services "on" and Persist "off".

Because of the RAMdisk you do not need the LAN when playing?

regards, Coen

 on: August 27, 2014, 09:37:57 am 
Started by BvdW - Last post by PeterSt
Bert, WTF ! !!!

Why do I only NOW see in your sig that you use the AntiImage filter ?

Right from the start it ihas been logic to me that you are using that.

Try Arc Prediction. If that doesn't show the issue, then bad luck because AI is not only VERY unofficialy for 1.186-i but it is also bound to disappear at all.

Next, if AP helps, try the Custom Filter (176.4 version) and see whether that satisfies you over AI.


 on: August 27, 2014, 09:33:27 am 
Started by BvdW - Last post by PeterSt
Notice Bert : Maybe first look under "Having said this all" near the bottom of this post

So, in the bios I disabled Hyperthreading and started this same CD and since I installed the i-version, for the first time this first track played well!

Found it!

I thought.

At least this shows that something *is* going on with the OS itself. Saldy, I would not know what I did to cause it, with the notice that 1.186-i does not contain any special changes in this realm. Watch out : compared to 1.186-a that is. Prior to that, yes. But assumed you were happily using 1.186-a ... :

I'm afraid you better revert to that.
(and notice that 1.186-i is not official)

I am also afraid that reverting to 1.186-a is not so easy, although you actually just learned how to do it for the major part :

1. Set back your old XXHighEnd.exe and XXEngine3.exe, assumed you saved those. The AutoHotkey file is less important and the XXOSK.exe even less (unless you use the On Screen Keyboard). But otherwise, those too.
Didn't save them ? then get those out of the original 1.186-a download (put in a temp folder and grab them from there).

2. Now find the just dealt with PresetLoader fille from a date prior to your 1.186-i (they are in your XXData Folder) before you ever start XXHighEnd 1.186-a.
Copy the one to your liking to your XXFolder, but with the name PresetLoader.XXSI (look in there first and see it sit there, so that one you are goinng to overwrite).

Having said this all :

Nice story and no lust to scratch it, but this can't work for you Bert. This is because under way you obtained a new Activation Code. Things will get inconsistent and it won't work.
So real solution : Re-install 1.186-a and obtain a new Code again.
As you can see ... I tried. Cry

All 'n all the better idea would be to continue with 1.186-i and find the culprit. Haha. But notice it will merely be your wasted time if you don't succeed than mine (I never feel my time wasted for such things).

Best regards,

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