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 71 
 on: April 19, 2014, 04:43:54 pm 
Started by Scroobius - Last post by Scroobius
Peter - are you properly booted in EFI? i.e. are you booting from a GPT disc?. It sounds to me that you are not. I had similar problems until I properly booted into EFI i.e. I could boot from a GPT disc.

I have a 4T Seagate and there are (now) no problems I can have as many partitions as I want and copy anything over. I copied over my 2T music directory without problems.

To boot into EFI a W8 install DVD MUST be in the DVD drive (W7 is no good it has to be W8). When it is go into the UEFI ("BIOS") screen and look at the devices being offered to boot from. There will now be two offered for the internal DVD rewriter - one UEFI and the other the ordinary BIOS option - select the UEFI version. I forced a boot from this by removing all other options.

So then continue out of "BIOS" to the W8 install options. You need to let W8 format the HDD - there was something wrong because I was not able to find any way to set up more than one partition at that time. However, as it turned out it was not a problem because I continued with the OS install got everything working and then afterwards used the Windows tools to reduce the OS partition size to 100Gb and create a new 2nd partition of 3.7T.

Also even though I had already formatted the HDD as GPT W8 would not install onto it until I formatted the HDD from the W8 install disc.

Before I actually got the PC properly booted in EFI I had a number of problems with the 4T Seagate that sound similar to the ones you find.

Cheers

Paul


 72 
 on: April 19, 2014, 04:37:37 pm 
Started by Scroobius - Last post by PeterSt
Hi Alain,

I think it is all written out on that page you linked to yourself (I think you gave us that page) - the one with the downloads at the bottom. But something is fishey.

I think my usage of that DiscWizard didn't apply much else than making MBR of it, which I just did not try with the two partitions. I only tried GPT with that. So If I had made the MBR partitions myself I'm almost sure it will have worked too.
But why not this 4TB (particular ??) disk while other 3TBs work fine here ?
And this is not UEFI !

Let's remember, my experiences from today are not related to the booting, but if it does not work at all I'd say the booting won't work either.
And why I received that error at extending the partition (from 2TB + remainder to one 4TB) ? Because it now first requires an UEFI BIOS ?

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Peter, I have the same drive (Seagate ST4000DM000) and it was created and formatted as a "base disk"... Does this means that it is defined as MBR (as opposed to Dynamic disk) ?

Yes.

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maybe this would help us to have a good understanding about what is feasible and what is not...


It should just work, but maybe not with Seagate who always had special drivers for over 2TB disks.
but
This is a different subject than what I told about earlier : That I could find no way to let the (UEFI - that's true) system boot from a GPT partitioned disk. BUT ... W8. Just a 720GB disk. But this boot was special somehow, and I forgot how exactly. Anyway, making it MBR solved the problem.

Quite stupid that this all seems not easy (to grasp) .. you are correct.

Regards,
Peter

 73 
 on: April 19, 2014, 04:19:06 pm 
Started by Scroobius - Last post by AlainGr
Peter, I have the same drive (Seagate ST4000DM000) and it was created and formatted as a "base disk"... Does this means that it is defined as MBR (as opposed to Dynamic disk) ?

Just to mention that my motherboard is from 2007 and does not have EFI nor UEFI in Bios... This PC being my "All purpose" PC on which that drive is connected through Esata (so external) and my PC is connected directly to my music PC through LAN.

Alain
Edit: if someone finds something that explains clearly how things are related (Basic vs Dynamic disks, GUID aka GPT vs MBR), maybe this would help us to have a good understanding about what is feasible and what is not...

 74 
 on: April 19, 2014, 03:24:17 pm 
Started by Scroobius - Last post by PeterSt
Next attempt :

I now used the DiscWizard;
Originally I had it created a GPT partition, well, if it did anything at all. So since I could not check that, before making another copy attempt I changed that to MBR. So one 2TB partion and one for the remainder came from that. Next I tried to use the "extended paration" function, but that gave me an error. And so I left the two partitions be.

Now 650GB has been copied to it without problems.
But I can't say I like this much ...

Disk is a ST4000DM000.

Peter

 75 
 on: April 19, 2014, 01:38:59 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by juanpmar
Juan, maybe obfuscate that email address somewhat, otherwise you'll be offered more Viagra there than what's good for you.
I think. Wink

Peter

hahaha, no problem Peter I could always resell the Viagra, actually, not to brag but fortunately I do not need it yet. I remove the email just in case  Wink

I can be found clicking on my username.

Juan

 76 
 on: April 19, 2014, 01:28:38 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by manisandher
Not sure what that "earth" is really and what you put it for, but I assume it is not important ?

Well, this whole endeavour is about vibration control and I just wanted to show that the PC in the basement and the NOS1 in the 'studio' both sit on the earth foundations of the house - i.e. a solid floor. The speakers in the listening room, meanwhile, sit on a suspended wooden floor. What I didn't show though were the two 'sleeper' brick walls in centre of the dead space below the wooden floor that support the joists. Although suspended, it's a solid floor that's capable of withstanding quite some pounding.

I doubt I'll fill the wings with anything immediately. But I'd be interested in hearing your feedback on the difference, if any. If I do decide to fill them, I'll definitely use them without the footers and have the weight distributed over the back bracket and wings (I may do this anyway, even without the filling).

Mani.

 77 
 on: April 19, 2014, 01:17:19 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by PeterSt
Juan, maybe obfuscate that email address somewhat, otherwise you'll be offered more Viagra there than what's good for you.
I think. Wink

Peter

 78 
 on: April 19, 2014, 01:15:55 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by juanpmar
Update...

I've been using a pair of 10m cables (with a signal-signal capacitance of only 47pF/m) that Juan had built up for me  by a technician he knows in Spain (thanks so much Juan). These cables are seriously good and very reasonably priced. They sound at least as good as any 1m cables I have here (including the anticables). In any event, having had them in place for the last couple of weeks now, I'm confident that these 10m cables have little or no detrimental affect on the sound...
Mani.

Thank you Mani, Im happy that the cables are working well in your system. If the cables work well also with the Orelo speakers Ill be very proud and happy to share a place among such a high quality components.


Yes, I think those interlinks Juan can provide are good; he told me about them and the way it is done and I recall I liked that. Just give him a call I'd say.

Peter

Thank you Peter, I appreciate your words.

In case someone is interested in the interconnect cables, speaker cables or power cords please send me a PM.

Best regards,
Juan

 79 
 on: April 19, 2014, 12:47:32 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by PeterSt
Hey Mani, nice !

Not sure what that "earth" is really and what you put it for, but I assume it is not important ?

Just a small notice I only realize now I see that picture with the wooden floor :

I intended to make photos of it - and should do that today really - but see below for a quicky ...

This is one of the wings of my currently disabled speakers (because they receive the final production version upgrade today) and you see holes in there. These holes are meant to fill up the inside with grit or sand or anything. This is no must and I myself did not do it so far (but should do it this afternoon), and obviously this is to make the lot more robust and/or better coupling to the floor (hey, for what's that worth of course, but especially in your situation it should be for the better (no DAC on that floor)).

However, the point - to some extend - is that this will be quite heavy. (One) Speaker itself is roughly 75Kg/165lbs and on estimate filling up those wings may add 100Kg/220lbs easily (depends on the material used for the filling).

So now we are at 175Kg/385lbs for one speaker, and it is for you to decide on how many pressure points that will rest (but normally 3).

It is only since yesterday that I am thinking this over myself, and maybe it is too crazy to do it. So, it is not necessary but should be better again - and made for it.
But a few of those pressure points on that wooden floor with that weight ? maybe not.

Btw notice that there's also the option to not use footers at all and thus spread the weight over the whole of the surface (back bracket and wings).

Lastly, nothing in those wings vibrates anyway that I can notice, so ...

Regards,
Peter

 80 
 on: April 19, 2014, 12:19:35 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by PeterSt

Yes, I think those interlinks Juan can provide are good; he told me about them and the way it is done and I recall I liked that. Just give him a call I'd say.

Peter

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