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 81 
 on: June 14, 2017, 05:49:35 pm 
Started by PeterSt - Last post by rudolf
Hi there,
maybe someone doesn't know this one:
https://listen.tidal.com/playlist/7ff470e6-99fb-42f0-9bf5-409b5dccd290
("WiMP Labs: Audiotest") from tidal itself:
some interesting new tracks, some you'd already know and would propably enjoy to relax in between...
P.S.
I'm really looking forward to ver 2.08 !!!

Rudi/Austria
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XXhigh 2.07 on Windows 8 PC (AMD A6-3650 APU 16 GB RAM) -
Minimize OS / Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/0/ Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 256 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Mixed/  SFS = 60  (max 120 / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 2-3 / not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ / UnAttended  / /Stop all Services Off / Stop Desktop and Remaining Services ON/ Keep LAN =off/ Not Persist / WallPaper Off/  Minimize OS / XTweaks : off
Hiface two USB to SPDIF converter 'digital' amplifier: Nuforce DDA 100 - ProAc Studio 130

 82 
 on: June 14, 2017, 05:35:52 pm 
Started by Tore - Last post by PeterSt
OK Tore, we will pick it up later.

Regards,
Peter

 83 
 on: June 14, 2017, 05:32:17 pm 
Started by Tore - Last post by Tore
Peter, i will be offshore for 14 days


Tore

 84 
 on: June 14, 2017, 02:03:17 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by PeterSt
Mani,

I think with Peak Extension the volume is 3dBFS down internally to begin with. So set the slider at -0dBFS but in reality it is at -3dBFS. So the attenuation already took place. Now going down with -1.5dBFS is not changing from -0dBFS to -1.5dBFS but from -3dBFS to -4.5dBFS.

So I think what you see in the end, is expected.
The thing as a whole is still a mystery of course. But maybe something is happening like a kind of overshoot which crosses the voltage rails (we know that the margin is not all that large, right ?) and which won't happen with a small digital attenuation beforehand. If so, this should be happening at the higher frequencies and not with the lower we test with (1KHz). AND :

... I suppose I dreamt something about you telling that "it is since the SE tube amp and speaker" ...
(but I'd rather think you just removed that text)

It can just as well be caused by that amp etc. Same thing about the voltage rails, BUT you'd need to play at maximum "power". Read : your amp could be clipping.
Not sure !

Peter

 85 
 on: June 14, 2017, 10:17:30 am 
Started by manisandher - Last post by manisandher
Perhaps my most controversial post ever...

There really is something weird going on, but it's not exclusive to XX - HQPlayer displays exactly the same behaviour. If the volume is attenuated anything below 0dB, the sound changes in the way I described in my first post - it appears to get clearer and more detailed. But I'm now convinced that 0dB (for both XX and HQP) gives the 'correct sound', and that with attenuation >0dB, the sound actually gets 'thinned out', and that other weird effects (such as a very slight 'echo' effect) come into play, giving the sound a 'lively' character. This seems to be counteracted to some extent by using the Custom filter, or indeed the Phisolator, but I think these are band aids to a certain extent.

But there does seem to be a 'fix' for those who refuse to go the preamp route (everyone here?):


Peak Extend OFF:
0dB - thick, full sound
-1.5dB (onwards) - much more sparkle and life, but maybe too thin for some material

Peak Extend ON:
0dB - thick, full sound
-1.5dB (onwards) - thick, full sound (exactly the same as 0dB, but slightly quieter, obviously)

In XX, using PE seems to keep the sound character exactly the same, irrespective of XX's attenuation level. What on earth is going on here, I have no idea.

[Interestingly, I've only started really noticing these effects since moving to single-ended tube amps and horns (in both my systems). Not sure if there's any connection. Perhaps for those with other system setups, this whole thing is simply a non-issue.]

Mani.

 86 
 on: June 14, 2017, 08:22:25 am 
Started by Tore - Last post by PeterSt
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The message comes when i try to play it on my Audio PC

... which does not have an internet connection (I assume).
So the message in itself is justified. But something must be not right with how the album has been "prepared". I am thinking of the Prepare having finished, but ending with a state which indicates it has not and now the Audio PC tries to Prepare it when you press Play, and it can't because of no Internet connection.

If you go to the highest level of the Album itself, which will be
\Booker's Guitar\
(there will be some more in that folder name like the date)
and you zip that folder (which will include the sub folders) and send it to me (e.g. with FileMail), I think I will be able to see what is wrong with it (wrong with how XXHighEnd deals with it).

Peter

 87 
 on: June 13, 2017, 07:21:00 pm 
Started by Tore - Last post by Tore
When i press www.google.com all i OK. (on my music PC)

The album is Booker`s Guitar and the download with XX 2.07 looks OK (on my Music PC)

The message comes when i try to play it on my Audio PC


Tore

 88 
 on: June 13, 2017, 05:41:59 pm 
Started by Tore - Last post by PeterSt
Thanks.
What it is about for me is that I like to see some prove that it indeed is caused by an album, which I then must be able to test myself. But as said, it is impossible. The code looks something like this :

Test
  www.google.com
If Errored
  present message Tore shows

... and there is nothing else which can cause this message.
But indirectly everything can happen. So for a wild example : Tidal's response may cause Internet to fail temporarily on your side.

Oh, you may also tell what it actually is you do when this happens. So I started with a Search for that album (what else to do) but there I had to stop because I don't see the album. But maybe you are further with it (like Prepare) ?

Best regards,
Peter


 89 
 on: June 13, 2017, 04:18:24 pm 
Started by Tore - Last post by Tore
It just happens with some albums, not often.
I can play Eric Bibbs other albums.
I don`t remember other albums but i will report it when it happens again

Tore

 90 
 on: June 13, 2017, 03:34:30 pm 
Started by Tore - Last post by PeterSt
Yes big enough. And this message occurs in one occasion only : when www.google.com fails.
So maybe you can try that when it happens ?

Or are you saying that it always happens with one album (like the one from Eric Bibb which I can't test). If so, do you have another one ?
(but notice that I regard this impossible - if only that message is exactly the same (more of them exist in various forms)).

Peter

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