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Author Topic: SPDIF Cable, longer is better! (Interesting articel)  (Read 99112 times)
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« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2011, 02:12:45 pm »

Thank you! I will contact them.
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« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2011, 03:21:50 pm »

Yeah, minicircuits from UK will send an attenuator of 10 euro to the netherlands with 20 euro shipping cost.
But they are very friendly and helpfull.
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« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2011, 03:52:58 pm »

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Yeah, minicircuits from UK will send an attenuator of 10 euro to the netherlands with 20 euro shipping cost.
But they are very friendly and helpfull.
The american guys were friendly too, but after I told them how much of each typ I want, there was no reply. But there was a great snow storm and a lot of staff were missing. Don't know if they have only forgotten to answere.
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« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2011, 10:07:14 pm »

Yeah, minicircuits from UK will send an attenuator of 10 euro to the netherlands with 20 euro shipping cost.
But they are very friendly and helpfull.

GerardA,
Are you using one on your Hiface?
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« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2011, 10:58:04 pm »

Not yet, just ordered it.
Hope it will arrive this week and doesn't dissapoint me!
BTW, the VAT/BTW of 20 % has to be added, so total of € 36.......????
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« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2011, 11:01:02 pm »

Not yet, just ordered it.
Hope it will arrive this week and doesn't dissapoint me!
BTW, the VAT/BTW of 20 % has to be added, so total of € 36.......????


Ah, rip-off UK is nearly as bad as rip-off Ireland. Nearly cheaper to buy from the US  - $12 + shipping.

Post your impressions when you get a chance, please!
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« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2011, 11:04:05 pm »

I will!
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« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2011, 06:55:03 pm »

Anyone interested in jitter, might want to peruse this thread, over at AC:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=90220

All for now..................gotta get back to work!

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« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2011, 08:08:07 pm »

Well John, thanks!!!

The attenuator arrived today, really quick.
It's 15 dB. And now for the sound, it is totally not what I expected!
Although I started playing albums I did not hear for a long time and can not set myself to much AB-ing yet it
is clear from the start. The sound is so different that it's hard to describe what the real difference is.
For the moment it's more dynamic and loud, especially transient wake you up/ gets you excited/ grabs your attention.
Now I'm not listening to digital anymore but just electronics.
And the weird mix of Led Zep 2, reminds me of Led Zep 3 on vinyl.
No more of that strangeness of digital.
Well maybe more later.
A must have for every hiFace-owner!
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« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2011, 11:28:09 pm »

A little more:
Playing loud all evening, enjoying so much, every aspect is better so no long story!
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« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2011, 11:48:47 pm »

Maybe, later you'll see a tear from my eyes!  Wink Time to stop!
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« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2011, 04:12:46 am »

Great GerardA, thanks for reporting back. It really changes the sound, doesn't it? More analogue like, more solid 3D sound stage, more texture to the bass, easier to listen to louder, no fatigue, etc. All the sonic characteristics of lower jitter. For a small investment, it's a great return, no?

BTW, these can be use don other SPDIF cables, not just on the Hiface. 20dB might be too much or not, in this case!
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« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2011, 09:54:26 am »

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More analogue like, more solid 3D sound stage, more texture to the bass, easier to listen to louder, no fatigue, etc.
All of this and more!

BTW, I was thinking of RFI induced by the high SPDIF-signal in the DAC on the analog output being reduced too, but I gues it must me mainly the jitter doing this.
Will your mods to the hiFace add much on top of this?  yes no
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« Reply #88 on: January 19, 2011, 02:14:12 pm »

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More analogue like, more solid 3D sound stage, more texture to the bass, easier to listen to louder, no fatigue, etc.
All of this and more!

BTW, I was thinking of RFI induced by the high SPDIF-signal in the DAC on the analog output being reduced too, but I gues it must me mainly the jitter doing this.
Yes there may well be other benefits besides the reduction of reflections - Pat(ar-t) knows all about these devices Happy
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Will your mods to the hiFace add much on top of this?  yes no
About another 90%, no kidding - ask Boleary here or look at the end-user/press reviews - they all consider the attenuators a minor uograde compared to the modified Hiface


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« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2011, 03:07:49 pm »

GerardA, the Jkenny MK2 will make your current Hiface settup--with attenuator-- sound like its shrouded in mist.....you gotta hear the MK2 to believe it.
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