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Author Topic: HOW IVE BUILT MY NEW PC FOR XXHIGHEND AND WHY IVE CHOSEN THE COMPONENTS  (Read 206606 times)
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« Reply #255 on: July 09, 2013, 11:08:45 am »

Hi Juan,

I did not see any mention about this and I am not sure about the requirement(s) (other than a disk needs to be bootable of course)...

Normally I would think that a recent BIOS would scan the devices that are attached to the pc and select the bootable drive, but I would inquire to Star Tech first ?

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Alain
Note: it would be good to ask about this for each of the 2 different connections (Esata and USB).
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« Reply #256 on: July 09, 2013, 11:33:55 am »

I wouldn't count on this being bootable. Something tells me it will be too complex.

The bootorder when USB is involved is already quite out of control and I don't think you can even "set" it when not first a normal hdd is involved for the OS. Think like this :

- Boot from whatever is bootable;
- Insert USB device (now "something" is recognizing this so that later the BIOS knows (???));
- Reboot, go into BIOS and set Boot Order with USB device first;
- Boot (continuing previous step).

So, this "complex" it already is for a directly connected USB device.
Now, when you'd insert a normal hdd at some stage (which can also be in that bay), the bootorder changes (this is a sort of SATA behavior). And for example, any USB device could be in there (in the BIOS) but when attempted to boot from it, it just won't (instead of going on to the next device in the boot order list).

All this assumes that the devices (HDDs) will show up in the BIOS anyway, which is doubtful as well. But my point (from experience) is : within no time you won't be able to boot at all, and it needs another normal HDD to boot so you can rearrange the boot order and get it working again.

But you can try it ...
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W10-14393.0 - November 13, 2017 (2.09)
XXHighEnd Mach II Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon E5 2640v4 with Hyperthreading On (20 cores) @~720MHz, 32GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = *30*/-/*1*/*1*/*1*/ Q1Factor = *40* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *15ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *0.90*  (max 120) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / *OSD Off* / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 43 / Nervous Rate = 100 / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / *Custom Filtering Highest for 705600* / Always Clear Proxy before Playbck = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (*8ms*) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

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W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #257 on: July 09, 2013, 08:29:14 pm »

But my point (from experience) is : within no time you won't be able to boot at all, and it needs another normal HDD to boot so you can rearrange the boot order and get it working again.

But you can try it ...
Peter

Ok, I will think back on all of this with ease, now I'm away from home for a few days and when I return I will do some tests about the booting disk.

Anyway Peter, as far as I understand, you have a configuration with all the hard drives outside the PC, regardless of any hardware/software special that you have (?), I would like to know what is the goal you pursue with this configuration.
What I can imagine is that the less work the PC power supply the less electric contamination and the better the SQ. For example, if the OS and XXHE are in an external drive with an eSATA connection with a separate power supply connected to a power conditioner, I guess that it would avoid some contamination of the electrical connection (although all contaminates, including the power conditioner). If at the same time the other disks, the Playback Drive and the disc with music, are on one external dock with only a single power supply (also connected to the power conditioner) I imagine it would be better, even the Playback Drive also could be placed in memory (ImDisk) .. . In summary, the key is if we take the hard drive with the OS/XXHE outside the PC or not (and the other hdd) and if we take it out what are the advantages and disadvantages.

Regards,
Juan
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Audio Pc: Processor i7 970: 3200MHz (reduced to 1668MHz), 6+6 cores/ RAM Corsair DDR3, 24Gb, 1333MHz/ Mb Asus X58 Sabertooth/ OS and XXHE in Peters RAM-Disk / The CPU fan is the only one in the Audio Pc: NF-S12A (600rpm/6.7db)/ No graphic card/ Power supply: Seasonic SS-400FL2, fanless.

Configuration and Updates in HOW IVE BUILT MY NEW PC...http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=1673.0

XXHighEnd: 2.09. Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN/ KS:Phasure NOS1 Out 4.0/ #4 Engine/ Adaptive Mode/ Q1=30 Q3=1, Q4=1, Q5=1, xQ1=40/ Dev.Buffer: 4096/ ClockRes: 15ms/ Straight Contiguous/ SFS: 0,90 (max 120)/ Not Invert/ Phase Alignment Off/ Allow format change/ Decode HDCD/ Playerprio: Low/ ThreadPrio: Real Time/ Scheme: Core 3-5/ UnAttended/ Not Switch during Playback Off/ Playback Drive none/ UnAttended/ Include Garbage Collect/ Copy to XX Drive by standard/ Always clear Proxy before Playback/ Stop Desktop Services/ Stop Remaining Services/ Stop All Services: Off/ Keep LAN Services: On - Persist: Off/ Use Remote Desktop/ Minimize OS/ XTweaks : Balanced Load 43/ Nervous Rate 100/ Cool when Idle -/ Provide Stable Power 0/ Utilize Cores always 1/ Time Performance Index: Optimal / Time Stability: Stable / Custom Filter Highest 705600.

Music Server PC (W10) totally silent with OS (W10) in SSD and music inside in SSDs - RDC > Ethernet Gigabyte cable 3m > Audio Pc > 1m USB Lush cable directly from the USB3.0 in the motherboard > PHASURE NOS1a-75B-G3 (Driver v1.0.4) 8ms > Blaxius BNC interconnects > Genelec 1037B 3-Way Active speakers with BNC inputs
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« Reply #258 on: July 11, 2013, 04:42:10 pm »

While I wait for my upgraded NOS1 (thanks, Peter) Best regards,
Juan


Hello Juan & Peter,

may I get details about the update, because if it is worth, I will send my NOS1 to the Netherlands for a ........... .

Thanx

Joachim
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« Reply #259 on: July 11, 2013, 05:38:19 pm »

While I wait for my upgraded NOS1 (thanks, Peter) Best regards,
Juan


Hello Juan & Peter,

may I get details about the update, because if it is worth, I will send my NOS1 to the Netherlands for a ........... .

Thanx

Joachim

Hi Joachim,

Take a look here: http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=2629.0

Regards,
Juan
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Audio Pc: Processor i7 970: 3200MHz (reduced to 1668MHz), 6+6 cores/ RAM Corsair DDR3, 24Gb, 1333MHz/ Mb Asus X58 Sabertooth/ OS and XXHE in Peters RAM-Disk / The CPU fan is the only one in the Audio Pc: NF-S12A (600rpm/6.7db)/ No graphic card/ Power supply: Seasonic SS-400FL2, fanless.

Configuration and Updates in HOW IVE BUILT MY NEW PC...http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=1673.0

XXHighEnd: 2.09. Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN/ KS:Phasure NOS1 Out 4.0/ #4 Engine/ Adaptive Mode/ Q1=30 Q3=1, Q4=1, Q5=1, xQ1=40/ Dev.Buffer: 4096/ ClockRes: 15ms/ Straight Contiguous/ SFS: 0,90 (max 120)/ Not Invert/ Phase Alignment Off/ Allow format change/ Decode HDCD/ Playerprio: Low/ ThreadPrio: Real Time/ Scheme: Core 3-5/ UnAttended/ Not Switch during Playback Off/ Playback Drive none/ UnAttended/ Include Garbage Collect/ Copy to XX Drive by standard/ Always clear Proxy before Playback/ Stop Desktop Services/ Stop Remaining Services/ Stop All Services: Off/ Keep LAN Services: On - Persist: Off/ Use Remote Desktop/ Minimize OS/ XTweaks : Balanced Load 43/ Nervous Rate 100/ Cool when Idle -/ Provide Stable Power 0/ Utilize Cores always 1/ Time Performance Index: Optimal / Time Stability: Stable / Custom Filter Highest 705600.

Music Server PC (W10) totally silent with OS (W10) in SSD and music inside in SSDs - RDC > Ethernet Gigabyte cable 3m > Audio Pc > 1m USB Lush cable directly from the USB3.0 in the motherboard > PHASURE NOS1a-75B-G3 (Driver v1.0.4) 8ms > Blaxius BNC interconnects > Genelec 1037B 3-Way Active speakers with BNC inputs
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