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ed linssen
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« on: July 02, 2012, 09:25:29 pm »

High all,
Connecting my USB/I2S interface(Wave IO) to Buff III  DAC does not work with higher wordlengths than 44.1 in KS.
In Wasapi there is no problem. I prefer working with engine 4 though.
Maybe somebody has a solution for me (us, I know I am not the only one NOT having a NOS I Wink)?
Hoping for a little help,
thanks,
Ed
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2012, 09:52:50 pm »

Hi Ed ,

Did you try some Q1 and some buffer lenght settings in #4Engine ?
Also which KS Mode ?
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 12:01:54 am »

Hi Ed ,

Did you try some Q1 and some buffer lenght settings in #4Engine ?
Also which KS Mode ?
Hi Stefano,
Thank you for thinking with me. I regret that after trying all settings it does not work out. I am affraid
it could be a driver problem?
Ed
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 12:19:16 am »


Hi Stefano,
Thank you for thinking with me. I regret that after trying all settings it does not work out. I am affraid
it could be a driver problem?
Ed

welcome Ed ,

it depends , if it is a Windows driver or a "propretary" driver from Buff ...
To understand that better , try also
a) set DAC is... say... 32bit 96k
b) use Antiimage filter and set 96kHz or 192kHz only button .

That should allow KS for more than 1X upsampling .
c) try 24bit  only dev.  button .

Imo it should work , otherwise the driver would not allow anything but 44.100 , which is rather uncommon by my point of view .


stefano

Edit :
I see there is an USB to I2S interface , so that enlarge the options to where to look at ...
d) realize the effective "format" of the receiving BUFF dac
e) re-apply a) b) and c) to the USB to I2S interface .
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RAM : 16Gig
XXHE on OS disk
Music on OS disk
Playback drive on USB3 to 4Gig Pendrive
Mobo USB 3 to Oversampling dac at 2X
KS adaptive , ArcPredict  , dev buffer 1024
Q1=8 , Q5=3 , res 1msec
Minimized OS , stop all services
X-tweaks : 45,100,1,1,1, stable , optimal
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 01:13:04 am »


Hi Stefano,
Thank you for thinking with me. I regret that after trying all settings it does not work out. I am affraid
it could be a driver problem?
Ed
:)Hi again, Stefano!
You must wether be a Computer or a DAC!
At least you have more brains than I have...Because:
a) 32 bits does not work

b) Antiimage does work for ALL resolutions and 16+24 (no 32) wordlength!

c) But I always must set:  24 bits only.  Than I can choose Arcpredict and Peakextend as well. No statics!

You made me happy!
Thanks
Ed


welcome Ed ,

it depends , if it is a Windows driver or a "propretary" driver from Buff ...
To understand that better , try also
a) set DAC is... say... 32bit 96k
b) use Antiimage filter and set 96kHz or 192kHz only button .

That should allow KS for more than 1X upsampling .
c) try 24bit  only dev.  button .

Imo it should work , otherwise the driver would not allow anything but 44.100 , which is rather uncommon by my point of view .


stefano

Edit :
I see there is an USB to I2S interface , so that enlarge the options to where to look at ...
d) realize the effective "format" of the receiving BUFF dac
e) re-apply a) b) and c) to the USB to I2S interface .
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 01:27:43 am »

Glad that I have been of help Ed , and also glad to hear that the WAVEIO driver manages the ArcPredict , I guess then the upsampling to 88.2KHz will be fine .

Very interesting ,

thanks

stefano
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sata ahci mode .
i7 (8 cores ) 2600k
RAM : 16Gig
XXHE on OS disk
Music on OS disk
Playback drive on USB3 to 4Gig Pendrive
Mobo USB 3 to Oversampling dac at 2X
KS adaptive , ArcPredict  , dev buffer 1024
Q1=8 , Q5=3 , res 1msec
Minimized OS , stop all services
X-tweaks : 45,100,1,1,1, stable , optimal
Disk Utilization : Split File Size: 120 ,max the same as SFS
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 12:43:42 pm »

I'm not sure I understand if you managed to play @176.4k or jist 88.4 with the waveIO.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2012, 09:53:10 pm »

I'm not sure I understand if you managed to play @176.4k or jist 88.4 with the waveIO.

Hi Telstar,
Any res. is fine. Such as 44.1, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 192.
The problem was just the wordlength! (only 16was playing).

Ed   
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