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Author Topic: 'Cool When Idle', 'Balanced Load' and SFS  (Read 6111 times)
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« on: March 01, 2013, 01:29:39 pm »

I've had the house all to myself today (kids at nursery and wife at work) and have taken the opportunity to play around with XX for a while. Nothing amazing to report sound-wise, but I now have an issue that I didn't have before I started playing around...

Most of my listening has been done switching between CWI=0 and 1. I'm not totally happy with either and think the sweet spot is somewhere in between. So I started playing around with SFS too. It's been on SFS=1.0 for quite a while with no issues whatsoever. But I wanted to hear what CWI=1 sounded like with BL=43 and SFS=2, so I changed SFS to 2.0. OK, quite nice. I wanted to compare to SFS=1.0 again. But no music. Rebooted, but still no music. Back to SFS=2.0, and music again. Hmm.

OK, I took BL up to 85 again and SFS down to 1.0... and again, no music. Quickly tried CWI=0, but no music. Back to CWI=1 and BL=43. Still no music. Played around with some Q1 settings and got a few error messages (can't remember exactly what they said, but something like "914500 needs to be bigger than 1000000"). Back to SFS=2.0 and music again. Hmm.

I switched the PC off and went down to the basement. My liquid-cooling heat sinks were much warmer than I have ever felt them before. Certainly not 'class A amp' hot, but quite warm.

OK, it could be the brief time with BL=85 and CWI=0. But I've used these exact settings for much longer durations with previous versions of XX and the heat sinks have never been this warm.

And I still can't go back down to SFS=1.0.

Strange.

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 02:00:02 pm »

Mani,

Not that I have a clue to your SFS=1, but how do your XTweaks settings show when you boot into Normal OS ?

But sure strange indeed !
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2013, 10:26:11 pm »

I think I've figured out the problem that was preventing me from going below SFS=2.0...

I think XX somehow deactivated itself, whilst I was still in minimized state. This seems to have happened as I was playing around with XTweaks a week or so ago. Today I tried the 'wallpaper test' and was baffled as to why I was getting a yellow background and not a red one. So I re-activated and the red wallpaper returned.

I have no idea why the SFS would not go below 2.0 in non-activated mode. I'm assuming that although I've had PA set to '-' for the last week that I've actually had no PA since XX was deactivated.

Weird. But all is now working, and the SQ is phenomenal again.

Mani.
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Phasure Mach III (Win 14393.0 on RAM-OS / controlled by RDC, / connected directly to music server / XXHighEnd 2.11 / Minimize OS / Engine#4 Adaptive / DB=4096 / Q1=10 / xQ1=15 / Q3,4,5=1 / SFS=4.00 / XTweaks = 34, 10, 0, 0, 0 / Straight Contiguous / Clock Resolution = 15ms / Scheme 3-5 (low/realtime) / 8x Arc Prediction / switch #5 'up/off' / Unattended) mobo USB3 port -> Lush^3 -> Phasure NOS1a B75 G3 -> 8m Blaxius^2 -> First Watt F5 mono amps -> Tune Audio Anima horn speakers
Office System:
Phasure Stealth II -> Lush^2 -> RME ADI-2 Pro FS R -> Neurochrome 286 mono amps -> Tune Audio Marvel horn speakers
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