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« on: January 02, 2014, 09:23:54 pm »

In the realease notes and SQ comments, I only see W8 mentioned. Just wondering if there's any advantage to running the latest version on W7 as well.

If so any guidelines on optimum parameters for W7?

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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2014, 04:40:57 am »

Definitely worth running with W7 a noticeable improvement in sound quality. Check my signature, I'm limited by using a laptop which has only 2 cores. I've found Peters W8 settings to also work with W7. Havn't tried changing settings yet still getting use to the sound.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2014, 07:59:29 am »

Good question Geoff. And mas Robocop says. I have now injected a remark about it in the Release Notes.

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Supports Windows 7, Windows 8 and 8.1 and the Server versions thereof. Vista and XP are also supported but the Sound Quality (dialing) possibilities of these are significantly less.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2014, 12:05:27 pm »

Thanks Robocop and Peter for clarifying that. I've been listening to it initially with Peter's settings for the 0.9.... version; but will also try it with the W8 settings under W7. I'm just looking for good starting points and will tweak it from there to get the sound I want on both OS's. I find it's better to start at different extremes and then work my way towards something that best suits the system.

Of course, I'll be trying it under W8 as well.

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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2014, 01:40:21 pm »

Hi Geoff,

Im using windows 7 and Peter's Win 8 XXHE settings (allmost). I can tell you it sounds great. Good start of 2014!

Best wishes to all.

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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2014, 08:25:04 pm »

Hi Johan,

Thanks. Will definitely give those settings a try under Win 7.

Just got it running under Win 8 with excellent results.

I haven't yet tried fetching music files over the lan, where the lan is only on while fetching the files. This is an interesting feature indeed and seems to imply that storing music on a NAS is now preferable to a drive tethered directly to the computer. Although Peter is mainly speaking about an old computer instead of a NAS.

I would rather use a NAS as long as there are no delays or SQ hits.

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2014, 10:42:42 pm »

NAS should be the same Geoff.
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

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W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 10:32:14 am »

Great! Will give NAS a try.

geoff
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