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« on: February 18, 2014, 04:32:15 pm »

Peter,

Under W8 unattended with V1.86 ALT-X has not effect. This was after a reboot.

How do I stop it?

Thanks,

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 05:19:55 pm »

Hey Geoff, Alt -S stops XX but does not bring back the GUI. Alt-X brings back the GUI but does not stop XX. So, my practice in unattended is to hit Alt-S to stop, then Alt-X to return to the GUI.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 05:54:44 pm »

Thanks so much Boleary. I think I just realised what's happening; I've lost the use of Bluetooth in unattended mode and I'm using a Bluetooth mouse & keyboard.

1.86 must be turning off the BT service, which didn't happen under previous versions or on Win 7.

I need to figure how to stop XX from stopping Bluetooth.

Listening to a long Jazz playlist right now and seems like I'll have to listen all the way to the end. Never mind, sounds good!

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 06:16:38 pm »

Geoff - Keep PAN services. But this disallows "Stop ALL Services". And not 100% sure whether this helps your BT keyboard and such. So just try it, ok ?

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 06:59:01 pm »

Thanks Peter, Tried it, doesn't seem to help! Mouse and Keyboard remain unresponsive.

Is there a service exception I can enter instead?

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 08:19:06 pm »

Geoff, I'm sure you can. But don't ask me which one(s).

But are you sure this worked pre 1.186 ? I myself am not so sure I changed much (as long as my advice from my previous post is followed).

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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 09:44:47 pm »

I'm sure, I didn't encounter this problem with any previous versions.

...and what's really weird is that the attempts to issue the ALT-X command all seem to be backed up, so although the mouse doesn't move and there's no response of any kind, once the playlist finally comes to an end the warning dialog about XX already running; etc. appears for as many times, I think, as I attempted the command. I then hit "cancel" on these dialogs and need to do ALT-X again to bring XX gui back up. At this stage, the BT devices are obviously responding again. During playback they are. in suspended animation!

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 10:40:17 pm »

Geoff,

Then test this with Q3,4,5 NOT to 1. When it now works right away it is that. Then try whether another Processor Appointment Scheme helps (with 1,1,1 of which I assume you were using) ...

Peter

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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2014, 04:18:49 am »

When on W8 I had problems like this too. Increasing SFS helped also.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2014, 05:17:50 pm »

Thanks guys. I will try playing with these settings.

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