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« on: September 23, 2015, 02:31:50 pm »

Hi there all Dutch and Belgian audio crazies.

The X-Fi show is back this year, so I will be there too with Ciska and Paul. As usual the Phasure part will be accompanied by BD-Design with Bert as the representative.

Might people want to know ... I will be holding a tablet or phone exclusively to control XXHighEnd, that running Windows 10 running from RAM only. The XXHighEnd Audio PC you will see, will have all disks removed.

The D/A converter used is the Phasure NOS1a B75, with Clairixa USB input and Blaxius BNC output.

Amplification will be 200W Gainclones, created by BD-Design.

Speakers : Bert's new design with 6x 12" woofers per speaker so you can right away hear where our room #110 is (the same room as 3 years ago).


People who consider a NOS1a should really visit us and fill out the "show special offer form" which is waiting for you all. That is, if you want a discount of 1.300 euros that wil be in order only this weekend and only when you visit us.

The same applies to all the gear we show and sell and it is quite easy to earn 10000 euros this weekend (yes, that is with 4 zeroes).
Meanwhile it is about the best possible sound. yes

Hope to see you there !


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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2015, 09:53:33 am »

How was the show peter? Sadly i could not come 😒

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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2015, 10:07:54 am »

Gerard, I sure missed you.
Give me some time to create a nice text ...

Peter
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2015, 12:03:36 pm »

The speaker we showed this year is BD-Design's Sigma.

Starts with the precision lighting of course (Paul doing it all) :




Here you see the final setup :



This is a very small speaker ... :



Below, our standing tables in use as bar tables.
Many people inspected them at the front side for hidden (sub) woofers. But they are just the shipping crates.
Sub soofers not needed anyway; this is 6x 12" open baffle per speaker, going straight to somwhere well under 20Hz (but was not really measured yet).



Still in preparation mode at Friday (late) night. From left to right, our Rammstein colleague from a few doors down the hall, Bert and Ciska :



And our Dutch representative from Dirac Live (in the left). Even more nice than that guy in the right. :



The usual final check picture (11:15 pm this time) :



And then for the real thing;
Hard to see on the picture, but most of the time, and especially on Sunday, the room was completely full and people had to leave before others could enter.
The room is 8 x 14 meters or so.






Above the entrance of our room, with coincidentally the door closed. Because streams of people keep on coming in (people going out as well of course) it is very hard to keep the door closed for more than one minute;

The problem we had (and always have) is that exhibitors use to have their doors open, so the always too loud noise coming from the room invites people in (they hope). Sadly, if *we* have the door open, we always hear that noise from the neighbours and can't play any decent soft music. What additionally happens in practice is that when we have our door open and we position ourselves in the hall in between our room and that from another, you only hear that other and completely nothing from ours. With that, it does not matter how loud we play.

This is the same issue like when our wives tell us that the music is too loud;
It is not at all, but in that case it is baaaaaad sound.

If it would be a measure that an inaudible room (one meter outside) is exhibiting the best sound, then for sure the best room was hours. No comparison.

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2015, 12:16:43 pm »

Thanks Peter.

Bert, well done on the new Sigma speakers. I think 'downsizing', but losing nothing in SQ (maybe even improving?) is definitely the way to go.

(And good to see Paul and Ciska hard at work too.)

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2015, 01:41:16 pm »


Let's see whether I can describe something about our "show experience". Should be done by others actually, but maybe people don't like to write about it. Anyway, invited !


Most of the demo/show music I use myself, has been tuned to my own system, hence the Orelo MKII speaker system. "Tuned" means : sounds very good and interesting and such on my system.
The Sigma speaker was ready only 3 weeks or so ago and obviously can not use the same filter settings as the Orelo MKII. Now it is challenging when someone else is doing the "tuning" of the speaker itself. And to keep in mind : the DSP which controls the bass and cross-over at the top side of the bass, is just user-tunable; everybody (customer) can do that him/herself and everybody is allowed to have his/her own taste.
Next though, the music taste could be dependent on that tuning ...

Of course it was. yes
So with the as usual too short time to do everything and all, we both (Bert and me) did not have sufficient time for the actually longwinded changes and especially listening, so what sort of happened is that the tuning was done to Bert's music. Not the music in my own demo Gallery. Also, Bert could not find the spare time to build up a demo Gallery himzelf from his own music. Thus it so happened that I played my tunes on Bert's tunING.
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Some worked out, but some did not. Still the only stuff available was mine and we noticed on the first day that while Bert could work on music from his own libraries, that it is not easy at all to ad-hoc make shares from (to) a Windows 10 Operating System running in MinOS mode, running from RAM and where connecting the USB disk to that otherwise completely diskless system is ... well, not the best thing to do of course.

And so to my own idea the first day did not work out. Possibly others did not agree, and what zzzzzoomed in my ears did not in other's, but anyway I was not happy.
Also it is quite frustrating, or bothering, to be forced to play music which to my ears is not "perfect".

Somewhere in the afternoon on Saturday I started to walk around a bit and observe what other exhibitors were making of it. Well, hmm ... actually we weren't doing so bad, it appeared to me. It seemed that something happened to all of the other exhibitors ... what a way lousy booming bass all over the place. True, I hadn't been to all rooms, but to my feeling I visited a few quite "expensive" ones and ... No.
I must say that I started to wonder whether our own standards went up again.

Side note : By now the first "reports" are coming about, and I already see the same complaint : lousy bass all over (the rooms).



We decided to spend some time Saturday night to hook up Bert's music, so Bert could sort out some demo music from his own known stuff. Sunday morning this proceeded with Bert spending time in the early hours to additionally fine tune the system somewhat (better) and to finish his demo material.
I recall to enter the room before breakfast and quickly run out because I did not like what I heard. But alas, Bert was not finished yet without reason.

Then breakfast was over, and Bert announced to disappear for his own breakfast, while meanwhile it was show opening time.
oops
I asked whether the Playlist was large enough to survive his breakfast and that I could disappear to wherever just the same. Yes, that was the case.
But oh boy, was that NOT necessary ...

I pressed Play at the first track and immediately was impressed. Well, not so important, but the room filling up with people showed really different from the day before. I saw most people with nodding heads (really so), if you know what I mean. All showing the "OMG, impossible".
And yes, something like that was now my own idea as well.

The tunes Bert had selected worked out very very well and at stages things got quite impossible because people did not want to leave any more. This, while people kept on coming in.

While this all happened in what I call a first crazy hour on Sunday, somewhat later people started to come in telling me that ALL the others played to loud, that with ALL the others the bass was stumping and stupidly loud and that with ALL the others it was "nothing". Yea, well, uhm, it became a little embarrassing, especially because I still could hear some distance from how I have it myself, at home. It felt a bit like everybody grouped up and served us an April 1 fool's joke.

Here's an anecdotical story which I try to mimic as genuine as possible; try to feel the atmosphere :

I am approached by two people;
One of them holds a blocknote. He says :
"Look, this is you. What you put in is a 9.3 and what you get out is a 9.6."
Uhm, on a scale of 1 to 100 ? not so good.
"No, on a scale of 1 to 10".
"This is serious, you know".
Uhm, I don't know; if the others score 9.7 ....
"No way; they all score under 5; we have been everywhere".

I'm sure I know the guy not holding the blocknote. But I don't know from what or where. Must be reviewers ? has to be, because who else is going to perform this serious effort to rate rooms in numbers like this and also announce this so seriously.

So you see ? this looked like a joke.


When things are really going well, people keep coming back to your room. Nice to see that people actually are there now to spend a few cosy hours on a Sunday afternoon. Listen to whatever music. "What can I play for you, Sir ?" -> I don't care.
So yes, that happens when all sounds right.

I have been talking to people who sort of ran into psychological problems. "Must have ! ... but can't have". The real audiophile stepped forward ?

Well, enough for this "self talk". But let me finish by concluding that a few strange things happened, or are happening;

With the notice that people tend to call computer playback "streaming" these days, too many people came to me and suggested that Streaming is an unfinished product at this moment. "So what are *you* using ?". Uhm ...

Why is there a trend of too much poor bass ? I mean, if people explicitly tell about the too much bass everywhere, what's going on ? Btw, I noticed it myself too (but haven't been everywhere, by far).

It looks like the Dutch manufacturer of audio has disappeared. This is so strong that people tend not to believe you when you say that all is "made by ourselves". I don't think that Dutch manufacturers have disappeared, but I suppose if we (all) don't name it explicitly on the doorstep, people start to think that all what's available is from elsewhere.
Possibly the show organizer is guilty because what I saw happening this year is importer A end B and C and (to empasize the example) 60 exhibitors with 250 brands or whatever. Something ain't right here. So the guys doing the work (like us) disappear from the show floors and instead the dealers or importers are there ? maybe.

So far my own impresion.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2015, 03:05:27 pm »

Hi

I was there and the ONLY room where bass was ok was with Peter and Bert. The worst bass was in the meridian MQA demo room where the basedrum sounded like a THX theatre style Meteor impact and double basses like a herd of Tyrannosaurus Rexes on the run. I was almost literally blown out of the room.

Nevertheless I think the MQA sounded like a format with a lot of potential. On the positive side music sounded dynamic, with clearly defined instruments having very good fundamentals (like in realistic 'body'). Despite the over done bass and highs with digital 'clarity' this could really be something. They are on track to bring it mainstream in i.e. Samsung phones and the software catalog is not focussed on audiophile classics. The demo guy even dared to play a MQA Metallica track. I think it would be a nice complement to the XXHE player provided that it passes Peter's ruthless scrutiny.

What surprised me is that so may big names where present but many really did not have their act together, delivering an uninvolving flat or dry sound with horrible bass. Also the expensive vinyl setups I heard did not deliver the delightment at-all that can come from the medium. I wonder if the demo-ers thought it sounded fine. I did not ask.

Anyway it was a pleasure at the phasure BD design room for both sound and company!

regards, Coen


   
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2015, 08:19:11 pm »

I also was there on the first day. Well, next time it will be day 2. The fact that I listened much longer in the Phasure/BD room than in any other room should (could) say enough. Indeed most of the other rooms had horrible bass, but also sometimes high frequencies that really hurt my ears. Most demo's were much too loud (a violin at 100dB!), but probably had-to to beat the sound coming from the neighbouring rooms.

I think the new Sigma speakers are great and have a size that gives them good practical applications and were the best of what I heard at the show.  good But to be honest, I’m still struggling with the “character” of horn speakers in general, although less so with the Sigmas. Maybe this is because I listen to magnetostatic planar speakers since 1988, so there might be some habituation.

The last room I visited (adjacent to the Phasure/BD room) was an anti-climax. It was the Magico/Soulution gear that sounded kind of lifeless to me. The demonstration guy explained the audience how to listen to the set so that “you can learn to appreciate the greatness of this set” . Any question from the audience was answered with an arrogant “you have to learn how to listen”  arrogant It was time to go home.   

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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2015, 11:07:15 pm »

Hi,

I was at the show on Sunday and was pretty disappointed in general, very few rooms had their act together. Some were interesting in certain domains like silky smooth detailed highs, a beautiful soundstage or a rich ‘vocal’ mid, but none had correct bass response other than Phasure/BD Design. Sometimes lacking bass or sometimes too much oomph, but never controlled, firm, dynamic and deep as it should be and this regardless of size or budget.
In this area the Sigma really excels, and now in an even more compact design than the Orelo MKII  thankyou

Although show conditions are never perfect and I may not always agree with Peters’ choice of music  Wink, on Sunday the Sigma's were 'best of show'. In particular a piece of Stevie Ray Vaughn was very pleasing.  sounds good !

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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2015, 08:13:06 am »

LOVE IT  Happy
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2015, 11:26:09 am »

If this goes on for a few years, room 110 will be the only one at the x-fi  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2015, 12:29:36 pm »

Haha, maybe.

But possibly something is wrong with the organisation of this show because what seems to be forgotten is the "post marketing". Ok, that is how I call it ...

For the exhibitors it is nice to see reviews of the show. But I'm afraid no single review will be there because
a. there is no interest by reviewers;
b. it was not explicitly organized.

Ad a.
This is bad to begin with. So I sure saw at least one reviewer (person), but he wasn't working on any review job (not taking notes etc.). Also - at least not yet at this moment - I see any individual doing such a thing for fun. Previously there were a few.

Or / and :
3 years ago there was 6moons (say officially) reporting about the X-Fi show. 2 years ago they were there, but did not bother to make a report (most was too poor to write about). This year they were not even there (and last year the show was not there).

So this looks rather downhill to me.

The strange thing is that I clearly noticed (fairly explicitly) a kind of new generation of 30-40 year old with high interest in fine music reproduction. Looks a bit like turning the tides. However, if next "we" destroy the initiative by means of producing a too bassy / too loud "Yello only" (yea, what about that) then what.
Hey, I am proud that we could stay away from Yello this time, except for one time because someone asked.

Well, enough blah blah, but if Room 110 is left as the only one then there is "nothing".

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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 11:14:02 pm »

Peter,

Thanks for sharing photos and your comments.
Looks good. And will undoubtedly have sounded good!
Unfortunately I had to work that weekend ...; (

Maybe next year?

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