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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2017, 12:59:44 pm »

Hi Peter,

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If you switch on Logging (at the bottom in Settings), in your XX folder a subfolder TemporaryData will contain log files;
Could you, with a next attempt to make the Restore Point, attach (to a post) the newest XX- log file (only XX-, no others are needed) ?
I don't recognize any "not found" situation, so it could be a server thing.
Take your time for this - no rush.
Done: you have mail.

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I suppose you read this one, right ? Installing and using a RAMDisk (IMDisk)
Yes, works like a charm.

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I wonder why ... This should normally work.
And ctrl-alt-esc works in Normal OS ?
Btw, if you (can ?) start TaskManager in advance of Unattended playback, it will keep on running.
Yes, both work in normal OS. But thanks for your suggestion to start TM before going Unattended, which it allowed me to count the processes and threads: P19, T257, nice and lean!

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On a side note, don't forget to use XXOSK.Exe and then in the "square" mode. You will see soon how convenient that is. And notice you can resize it by means of dragging the "title bar" corners. Also set "Use Touch Facilities" in Settings (Services and OSD section), when you use the remote for control.
Nice little tool, will get acquainted with it... You thought of everything!

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Is it correct that still no Wallpaper shows ?
Wallpaper is showing!

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PS: For 2.08 WS2016 is now formally supported, but so far without special adjustments for it (I just don't know any yet).
Great news!

Something new:
Since making the recent changes my OS now says, in the lower right corner, 'Test Mode'. Is this expected?

Best, Dennis
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HDPlex 100W Linear PSU / Streacom FC5 / HDPLEX 250W Hi-Fi DC-ATX PS converter / Supermicro X11SAE -> Intel i3-6100T with Hyperthreading Off (2 cores), C-States Off, ECC RAM 16GB / music on LAN / XXHighEnd on A: (3GB RAMDisk) / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1=14, Q3=1, Q4=1, Q5=1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 2048 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0,1 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / PlayerPrio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = No Appointment / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive B: (3GB RAMDisk) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Stop Desktop-, Remaining-, WASAPI-Services / Keep LAN - Not Persist / Don't do anything with WallPaper / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 43 / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = n.a. / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / Upsampling ? / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Lampizator USB cable -> nas4free music server or local MS-EX SLC usb drive / HDPlex Linear PSU / Streacom FC5 PC i3-6100T 16GB RAM / Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB / XXHighEnd  with minimized OS / APlayer with foo_dsd_asio (optional: Audiophile Optimizer 2.20b5 / Fidelizer Pro ) or WTFplay (Linux) / SOtM tX-USBhubEX / Audiophilleo 1 + Pure Power + Audio Aéro Prestige Signature or Uptone Regen + Lampizator Lite 7 DSD256 / Lightspeed Attenuator / Cayin A-88T / Spendor SP100 + 2x REL T5 / Taket H2 + TR2; Hifiman HE-6
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2017, 01:46:07 pm »

OK Dennis, great.

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Since making the recent changes my OS now says, in the lower right corner, 'Test Mode'. Is this expected?

Well, I know at least one of the settings implies it. Not sure whether you could touch that but anyway it is a normal "feature". It doesn't do anything in itself (for SQ) but it allows for some OS settings to change.
Anyway it is perfectly normal.

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Done: you have mail.

Thanks. So this really looks like some feature missing on the server version, but actually I can't see much.
I don't think I asked already whether you can make a Restore Point yourself in Normal OS (no need to try in MinOS) ? So, can you ? (the answer is not even realy important)
Again thinking further ... the missing feauture can easily be caused by AO (just was never installed). Notice that this feature is not necessarily related to making Restore Points, but merely to a(n API) command set which is more rarely used (by programmers).

If you don't mind really, I prefer to let this be, just because we have no option to attach / debug the problem. What I will do anyway, is put in some log entries in there and if you can remember this, then at the time 2.08 is there you can retry again and we'll have a better log. But then still I am quite confident I won't be able to solve it. One thing though : we then could ask AudioPhil whether is disables the function of concern (this is hard to ask right now because there's quite a few things used in there).

Peter

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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2017, 02:02:03 pm »

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Well, I know at least one of the settings implies it. Not sure whether you could touch that but anyway it is a normal "feature". It doesn't do anything in itself (for SQ) but it allows for some OS settings to change.
Anyway it is perfectly normal.
OK, no problem then. It think it is rather an 'enhanced' state which allows more drivers to function.

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Thanks. So this really looks like some feature missing on the server version, but actually I can't see much.
I don't think I asked already whether you can make a Restore Point yourself in Normal OS (no need to try in MinOS) ? So, can you ? (the answer is not even realy important)
Again thinking further ... the missing feauture can easily be caused by AO (just was never installed). Notice that this feature is not necessarily related to making Restore Points, but merely to a(n API) command set which is more rarely used (by programmers).
If you don't mind really, I prefer to let this be, just because we have no option to attach / debug the problem. What I will do anyway, is put in some log entries in there and if you can remember this, then at the time 2.08 is there you can retry again and we'll have a better log. But then still I am quite confident I won't be able to solve it. One thing though : we then could ask AudioPhil whether is disables the function of concern (this is hard to ask right now because there's quite a few things used in there).
Indeed certainly not an XX issue: I just found out that system restore points are not possible in Server 2016. There Windows Server Backup is the way to go, so I will use that.
(Or maybe you could just let some pop-up say "restore points not supported for this OS" or something.)

Best, Dennis
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HDPlex 100W Linear PSU / Streacom FC5 / HDPLEX 250W Hi-Fi DC-ATX PS converter / Supermicro X11SAE -> Intel i3-6100T with Hyperthreading Off (2 cores), C-States Off, ECC RAM 16GB / music on LAN / XXHighEnd on A: (3GB RAMDisk) / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1=14, Q3=1, Q4=1, Q5=1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 2048 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0,1 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / PlayerPrio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = No Appointment / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive B: (3GB RAMDisk) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Stop Desktop-, Remaining-, WASAPI-Services / Keep LAN - Not Persist / Don't do anything with WallPaper / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 43 / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = n.a. / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / Upsampling ? / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Lampizator USB cable -> nas4free music server or local MS-EX SLC usb drive / HDPlex Linear PSU / Streacom FC5 PC i3-6100T 16GB RAM / Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB / XXHighEnd  with minimized OS / APlayer with foo_dsd_asio (optional: Audiophile Optimizer 2.20b5 / Fidelizer Pro ) or WTFplay (Linux) / SOtM tX-USBhubEX / Audiophilleo 1 + Pure Power + Audio Aéro Prestige Signature or Uptone Regen + Lampizator Lite 7 DSD256 / Lightspeed Attenuator / Cayin A-88T / Spendor SP100 + 2x REL T5 / Taket H2 + TR2; Hifiman HE-6
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2017, 02:13:39 pm »

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Indeed certainly not an XX issue: I just found out that system restore points are not possible in Server 2016.

Just not at all, ever, you mean ?

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(Or maybe you could just let some pop-up say "restore points not supported for this OS" or something.)

Yep, good idea.

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It think it is rather an 'enhanced' state which allows more drivers to function.

Yes, this is correct. I just looked, but you will have used the button "Refresh" tagged "Driver Signing ?"in the Output section in Settings. If you click the button when it shows "Refresh" you can click it and it will show "Change" (also observe the text preceeding the button). Click it once again, and all will be set to normal again (will require a reboot).
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2017, 02:23:34 pm »

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Just not at all, ever, you mean ?

I now see that no Server version supports making Restore Points. In there it's something like "System State Backup".

For 2.08 I now silently skip the function (people should know, right ?  Happy).

Anyway, now we have a first "function" for WS2016. Haha.
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2017, 02:39:42 pm »

Could not get rid of the test modus using refresh/change buttons – probably my bad. But I got rid of it using:
  bcdedit /set testsigning off
from the command line and rebooting.

Making a Windows Server Backup now... (while I will go do some shopping).
This only works when OS is not optimized, but that is expected and desireable I guess. Same applies to AO.
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HDPlex 100W Linear PSU / Streacom FC5 / HDPLEX 250W Hi-Fi DC-ATX PS converter / Supermicro X11SAE -> Intel i3-6100T with Hyperthreading Off (2 cores), C-States Off, ECC RAM 16GB / music on LAN / XXHighEnd on A: (3GB RAMDisk) / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1=14, Q3=1, Q4=1, Q5=1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 2048 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0,1 (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / PlayerPrio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = No Appointment / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive B: (3GB RAMDisk) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Stop Desktop-, Remaining-, WASAPI-Services / Keep LAN - Not Persist / Don't do anything with WallPaper / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 43 / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = n.a. / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / Upsampling ? / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Lampizator USB cable -> nas4free music server or local MS-EX SLC usb drive / HDPlex Linear PSU / Streacom FC5 PC i3-6100T 16GB RAM / Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB / XXHighEnd  with minimized OS / APlayer with foo_dsd_asio (optional: Audiophile Optimizer 2.20b5 / Fidelizer Pro ) or WTFplay (Linux) / SOtM tX-USBhubEX / Audiophilleo 1 + Pure Power + Audio Aéro Prestige Signature or Uptone Regen + Lampizator Lite 7 DSD256 / Lightspeed Attenuator / Cayin A-88T / Spendor SP100 + 2x REL T5 / Taket H2 + TR2; Hifiman HE-6
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