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« on: October 01, 2017, 04:23:16 am »

All,

A quick question to see if anyone has tried using a dedicated machine (NOT the music server) to prepare Tidal streams with XXHE.  Here is context to my question.

- Currently I am using the Stealth PC as audio player, and the original XXHE PC as music server.  XXHE is installed on both machines BUT neither is currently connected to the Internet.  The XXHE PC has only one ethernet port, currently used to for a local network with the Audio PC.
- I'd like to be able to use a separate machine, connected to the internet, with XXHE on it, to prepare Tidal streams.  the question is, can the prepared streams then be copied over to the music server in the appropriate directory and work properly.

Thanks for any help.
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Audio PC: Stealth PC; RAM-OS W10 14393.0. 
XXHE version 2.07.
Music Server: XXHE PC, RDC to Audio PC
XXHE settings: Q1 14x10, Q3/4/5 0/1/0, SFS 120, Clock Res 15ms, Driver Buffer 4ms
Audio PC -> Lush USB cable -> NOS1(a,75B, G3) -> Blaxius cables (BNC) -> Orelo Mk II active speakers
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2017, 06:35:19 am »

Of course they can.  You will need a network card for your XXHE PC (MusicServer) so that you can connect it to your Tidal computer via an ethernet cable in exactly the same way as you do with the MusicServer to AudioPC.  Point XXHE on your Tidal machine to the correct directories on the MusicServer and it will be all automatic.
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Asrock X79 Extreme 4-M/ Xeon E5 2648L 8 Core 1.8GHz 70w TDP running at 1.2GHz with Hyperthreading On [16 cores]/ 16GB Ram / RAM-OS / *All* music files are WAV / Isolated Silverstone USB Card fed by LPS

XXHighEnd 2.05 RAM-OS (W10586 RAM)
Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Buffer 4096 / Q1/3/4/5 = 14/1/1/1 / xQ1 = 1 / Processor Core Appointment Scheme = Core 1-3 / PlayerPrio = Low / ThreadPrio = RealTime / ClockRes = 1ms / Not Switch during playback = off / Xtweaks Balanced Load = 64 / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when idle = 1 / Provide stable power = 1 / Utilize cores always = 1 / Time Stability = Not Stable / Time Performance Index = Not the best / SFS 0.12MB Max 20MB / Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect = on / Start Playback during conversion = off / Do not start playback at all = off / Copy to XX-drive by standard = on / Always clear Proxy before Playback = on / Stop Remaining Desktop Services = on / Stop Remaining Services = on / Stop WASAPI Services = on / Stop W10 Services = off / Keep LAN Services = on / Persist = on / Use Remote Desktop = on/ Custom Upsampling / Minimize OS = on / Peak Extend = off / Unattended

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Silverstone USB3 (isolated) >> Clairixa USB (short) >> Intona >> Clairixa USB >> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4 (4ms) -> 6 way active horn speakers (Single Ended Triodes)
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2017, 06:54:27 am »

Anthony,

Let me explain a little more.  I'm often traveling, and what I would like to be able to do is prepare Tidal streams on a machine that is NOT connected to my normal setup, storing the streams locally on the machine or on a hard drive attached to it, and THEN when I am back home be able to transfer the prepared streams to the music server.  I'm assuming that the files can be transferred.  Wanted to confirm if prepared Tidal streams can be played by XXHE without internet connectivity or need to log into Tidal.

Ramesh
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Audio PC: Stealth PC; RAM-OS W10 14393.0. 
XXHE version 2.07.
Music Server: XXHE PC, RDC to Audio PC
XXHE settings: Q1 14x10, Q3/4/5 0/1/0, SFS 120, Clock Res 15ms, Driver Buffer 4ms
Audio PC -> Lush USB cable -> NOS1(a,75B, G3) -> Blaxius cables (BNC) -> Orelo Mk II active speakers
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2017, 09:03:39 am »

Ah, ok.  I doubt that you will have any problems at all.
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Asrock X79 Extreme 4-M/ Xeon E5 2648L 8 Core 1.8GHz 70w TDP running at 1.2GHz with Hyperthreading On [16 cores]/ 16GB Ram / RAM-OS / *All* music files are WAV / Isolated Silverstone USB Card fed by LPS

XXHighEnd 2.05 RAM-OS (W10586 RAM)
Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Buffer 4096 / Q1/3/4/5 = 14/1/1/1 / xQ1 = 1 / Processor Core Appointment Scheme = Core 1-3 / PlayerPrio = Low / ThreadPrio = RealTime / ClockRes = 1ms / Not Switch during playback = off / Xtweaks Balanced Load = 64 / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when idle = 1 / Provide stable power = 1 / Utilize cores always = 1 / Time Stability = Not Stable / Time Performance Index = Not the best / SFS 0.12MB Max 20MB / Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect = on / Start Playback during conversion = off / Do not start playback at all = off / Copy to XX-drive by standard = on / Always clear Proxy before Playback = on / Stop Remaining Desktop Services = on / Stop Remaining Services = on / Stop WASAPI Services = on / Stop W10 Services = off / Keep LAN Services = on / Persist = on / Use Remote Desktop = on/ Custom Upsampling / Minimize OS = on / Peak Extend = off / Unattended

Audio Chain
Silverstone USB3 (isolated) >> Clairixa USB (short) >> Intona >> Clairixa USB >> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4 (4ms) -> 6 way active horn speakers (Single Ended Triodes)
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2017, 12:22:06 pm »

Hi Ramesh,

Anthony is correct. The prep'ed music will be picked up on your Audio PC later, just as usual (but you don't know yet whay "usual" is).
But you coud automate it a bit more than you might think of;

What I would do is make that "travel-disk" the standard disk for preparing the streams Thus, also when at home and playing music. Say you will give it drive letter T:.
When attached to the travel PC (laptop) you can also give it the driver letter T: (I am not sure whether this is only convenient or pratically necessary). And, when you get back home you just move the disk to the Music Server PC.

You may think that it is strange to have such a removable (probably USB) disk attached to your Music Server PC but then you never saw my Music Server with 4 of them attached like this, permanently (I have no need to travel with them). It is just a means to attach storage, but make it USB3 for the necessary speed.

If you combine all with working with Galleries, then at looking for albums on the Audio PC with the removable disk coincidentally not attached, will do no harm anywhere (because you see the Gallery data). Only when you'd actually want to play a file from the removable disk (which thus is not attached) you will get errors (this starts with all the track times showing as 0:00).

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W10-14393.0 - September 2017 (2.08)
XXHighEnd Mach II Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon E5 2640v4 with Hyperthreading On (20 cores) @~720MHz, 32GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = *14/-/1/1/1/* Q1Factor = *1* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *0.9*  (max 120) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 43 / Nervous Rate = 100 / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filter Low 705600 / -> USB3 from MoBo -> *Lush USB 1m00* -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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