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charliemb
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« on: May 19, 2018, 08:29:59 pm »

Hi All

Just here to report an important finding.  After running without a backup of my system for years I decided to back it up.  I bought an SSD drive 500GB to back up my 320GB spinning 2.5" disk.

Well after I cloned the disk with CloneZilla I tried it.  This is easy to do because with the XXHighEnd PC the OS disk is on a removable tray.  I was going to make periodic backups to this drive but instead I found that it sounds much better than the spinning drive.   So now I'm using it as my main and will need to buy another to do rotating backups.

Anyway,  in case it matters,  it is a Crucial, about $114 USD.
     Crucial MX500 500GB 2.5 inch SSD

I thought I had read that the opposite was true.   That's the way it is with audio I guess.
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XXHighEnd PC (i7 3930K) Hyperthreading On (12 cores) underclocked to *2.5GHz*, 16GB, Windows 7 Ultimate64 SP1 on 2.5” SATA2 spinning disk, XX on 2.5” OS disk, music on 3.5” SATA3 7200 RPM.  Motherboard BIOS settings: BCLK = 100 MHz / Intel Speed Step = OFF / Max Clock Ratio = 25 / Allow OS to change ratio = OFF. 
XXHighEnd 2.01 Adaptive / Q1/3/4/5 = 6/1/1/1 / Q1x = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Straight Contiguous / SFS = *60* (max 150) / Playerprio = Low (or below normal) / ThreadPrio = High / Core3-5 / *No Playback Drive* / *No RAMDISK* (the built-in one, have not tried IMdisk) / UnAttended / most services Off, WASAPI on  / Minimize OS / XTweaks set to v2.01 Defaults / *8x 384 Custom Filters* (High 23380 Hz)
DAC: 384KHz Wyred 4 Sound DAC2 DSDse set to default PCM Rolloff=FAST (the SLOW setting does not sufficiently filter out the noise shaping of the DAC), and no preamp
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2018, 08:20:23 am »

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I thought I had read that the opposite was true.   That's the way it is with audio I guess.

Hi Charlie,

Yes, this was the status (quo) of say 10 years back when the SSD was new. And, I (or we) already knew that with time progressing, new SSD techniques came about and from there on YMMV from week to week. Personally I never tried it because from theory the SSD is wors (less even current usage). But this is theory and it will highly (!) depend on the remainder of your system and how the SSD relates to that in terms of current usage. And not only "system" as such as it can go beyond that (like with BIOS and even software settings).
And so I gave up on that ling ago and came up with the RAM-OS Disk. This is there now for what ? ... 3 years ? 4 ? but anyway preceeding that was 2.5-3 years of getting it done.
IOW : With the RAM-OS Disk you remove the HDD or SSD after booting and there is nothing (OS is booted from RAM). And now it has to be better because there's just nothing there. And if it is not for the better something else is going on and you'd "need" to find it.

Best regards,
Peter

PS: The RAM-OS Disk (in SSD form) costs 370 euros and is preloaded with W8 and 3x W10 build and activated XXHighEnd.
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For the Stealth LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - March 23, 2018 (2.10)
XXHighEnd Mach II Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon E5 2640v4 with Hyperthreading On (20 cores) @~720MHz, 32GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 30/-/1/1/1/ Q1Factor = 40 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *5.19*  (max 120) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *52* (*43 ??*) / Nervous Rate = *10* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / *Arc Prediction Filtering (16x)* / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (*16ms*) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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