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« on: August 25, 2009, 04:26:21 pm »

Hi Peter,

so far so good with 0.9y-2 with no major issues noted so far  thankyou, although I haven't spent a heap of time with it yet.

I have a question regarding the 'processing' of the entries in the right hand panel though. In previous versions ( up to 0.9y-1d ), if I double clicked on an entry, for example 'folder.jpg', the application with which that is associated, in this case Windows Photo Gallery, would open up and display it. Similarly, double clicking on any text files listed would bring them up in notepad.

With 0.9y-2 this has changed. Double clicking now results in a duplicate of the entry and has '-1' appended to the file name. If done a second time, then a '-2' copy of the original is created and so on.

If, however, I right click on an entry to bring up the context menu, and then chose the 'open' command,  things behave as in previous versions.

Just wondering if this change was intentional, as it is far easier to simply double click to open something rather than go via the context menu.

The sound is still amazing in these 'y' versions ! sounds good !

Cheers,

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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 06:33:38 pm »

too much ! No ... that double click thing sure is not intentional ...
I actually wonder what stupidity this is, because I sure didn't program it. So it must be some effect of a drag to-from XXHE captured, which overrules the double click.

I will look into it !
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 07:13:28 pm »

Peter,
while I was loading galleries from the library area, the following error popped up. In the special case when an album contains more than 1 CD, AND no artwork is present in the album OR ANY of the underlying CD's: an out-of-memory message appears and XXHE gets stuck.
I work around it by manually stopping XXHE (ctrl-alt-del) and putting some artwork in the album or any of the underlying CD's.
Cheers, Eric.   
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 08:05:26 pm »

yep, same error here.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 08:22:51 pm »

Solved my problem with opening certain folders.

But there can not be a dot (.) in album names like I said before with B.B.E and B.B. King.
But also "vol.1" in foldername and for eg. ''Vangelis - Albedo 0.39"

Maybe this was always the case!
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 10:18:35 pm »

Eric, bgt, thanks. But this is not my experience here.

Can you please provide your exact structure and contents ? (just start where you think the album starts, so everything above that is not necessary). I would be good if you can show the hidden files as well; I expect that something is in there (may be hidden) which I don't deal withg properly.

Thank you both,
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Edit : This can be as simple as dicovering a (hidden) thumbs.db of which I know it causes the out of memory error. I arranged for that, but merely in theory than explicitly testing every situation on this ...
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 10:21:58 pm »

Solved my problem with opening certain folders.

But there can not be a dot (.) in album names like I said before with B.B.E and B.B. King.
But also "vol.1" in foldername and for eg. ''Vangelis - Albedo 0.39"

Maybe this was always the case!

Roy, I didn't sort that out explicitly (referring to your earlier mentioning of this), but made some provisions already to solve that. This will be about a too strict approach from my side that dots denote files (there's more to it, but this is the base of me doing things wrong here).
I will dive into this now. Thanks !

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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 01:16:41 am »

Peter,
the following simple test creates the problem (at least here).

1.Create a folder called MUSIC on you desktop.
2.In that folder, create a folder called ALBUM.
3.In the folder ALBUM, create 2 folders called CD1 and CD2.
4.Copy (at least) 1 track in the folder CD1. Any track will do, WAV or MP3. No other (hidden) files, just 1 track of music.
5.Start XXHE. Go to Library tab and use Search A on the path up to and including MUSIC.

Now the message Insufficient Memory shows up and XXHE gets stucked.
I am curious if the same happens in your environment. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 03:19:09 am »

Double clicking an image in xx, creates a copy of that image in the same folder !?!?
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 09:35:14 am »

Peter,
while I was loading galleries from the library area, the following error popped up. In the special case when an album contains more than 1 CD, AND no artwork is present in the album OR ANY of the underlying CD's: an out-of-memory message appears and XXHE gets stuck.
I work around it by manually stopping XXHE (ctrl-alt-del) and putting some artwork in the album or any of the underlying CD's.
Cheers, Eric.   

I'm also experiencing problems with the gallery display functions with 0.9y-2. It appears OK in 0.9y-1d, so whetever changes were implemented between those versions appears to have broken something.

XXHE appears to be getting tripped up if two or more discrete CD's are listed under a Album Name, and I suspect some other sceanarios are at play , including the inability to display contents under certain artist names. "B.B. King" is one that I have noticed won't display anything, yet "B.B. KIng & Diane Schuur" works OK.

I have attached a series of screen caps below to try and show what is happening here. When I click on Tangerine Dream in the left column, the folder art panel in the middle starts to reveal the albums within that folder, but quickly brings up the error message that a few have already noted. Clicking OK on the message may, or may not, reveal a few more of the albums. Eventually, by clicking on the OK button multiple times as it occurs, a page full of folder art appears. I also discovered that these error messages may be 'hiding' behind the GUI, and that pressing the ALT key brings them to the front. If you attempt scroll the centre panel, this refresh attempt triggers another round of error messages until a whole panel is filled out once more.

The memory usage of XXHE also climbs steadily during all of this .. see the Task Manager snapshot.

I have also attached the LibraryData.txt file which is active at the time.

If you need more info or folder structure layout just holla.

Might have to go back to 0.9y-1d until this bug is fixed, or try and limit my listening to artists that don't have multidisc sets.

Cheers,

Russ ( still relishing the SQ of these 'y' versions ! )


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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 10:05:52 am »

Some further tinkering reveals that it may not be a simple case of multidisc albums tripping thing up. Under my Alan Parsons Project folder I have a 2 CD set of "Tales of Mystery and Imagination"  and that displayed OK. Note however that I have folder.jpg entries for that album, so that clue may be tied into Eric's observation that the lack of folder art is having an effect.

I have attached another instance where the cover art is failing. That "Boned!" album under The 12th Man is a 2 CD set, and there is no cover art present.

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 10:33:29 am »

One more example to assist is tracking down this bug.

The error messages discussed previously occured while displaying the contents of the Segovia folder.

The "Dedication" and "The Spanish Guitar Magic of Segovia" albums DO NOT have folder art present in their folders currently, but instead 'found' their  artwork from the first album ( A Centenary Celebration ).

Hopefully these examples are enough for you to figure it out Peter.

If you need more I will provide, but I'll stop filling up your server with screen grabs for the moment !

Cheers,

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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2009, 11:02:45 am »

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Now the message Insufficient Memory shows up and XXHE gets stucked.
I am curious if the same happens in your environment. 
Cheers, Eric.

Yes, I could copy that, and it is solved. I will put up a 0.9y-2a version in the 0.9y-2 download soon. First want to solve that double click bug (not easy).

One more example to assist is tracking down this bug.

The error messages discussed previously occured while displaying the contents of the Segovia folder.

The "Dedication" and "The Spanish Guitar Magic of Segovia" albums DO NOT have folder art present in their folders currently, but instead 'found' their  artwork from the first album ( A Centenary Celebration ).

Hopefully these examples are enough for you to figure it out Peter.

Russ, your examples actually showed what was going on, with no clue really why this doesn't bug me. My structure must be different somehow, and I guess more deep (??). This matters. Anyway, it is this what I solved, which solved Eric's problem just the same. So indeed there was something like "if no coverart then ... a wrong file" haha.

It *may* be so that your Segovia problem (takes the Coverart from another album) is solved with this too, but I have my doubts. All is releated to something like "keep on searching until you found something", but that shouldn't end up in a wrong folder. And oh, let me praise you for this most clear outlay including the structure at the left. On that one, the only thing I can think of (apart from a bug on my side) is that "The Spanish Guitar Magic of Segovia" contains a music file itself ? Then something like this will happen.
But let's wait for that upgrade first.

Thank you guys !
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2009, 01:13:09 pm »

Peter, using 9y-2 still no luck here switching between 16/44 and 24/96 files in the same playlist.   
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XX2.07/MB: ASRock Extreme 4M , i7-3930K @ 0.5GHz/ RAM-OS W10586/32 Gigs 1600 DDR3/ Clarixa usb cable  /Q1,3,4,5 = *14*/1/1/*1* / *Q1Factor = 1* / Peak Extension: Off/Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *.5ms* / Straight Contiguous / SFS = *.02,/ Do Nothing With Cover Art / not Invert / *(Phase Alignment Off  / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Real Time / Scheme = 3-5 / UnAttended (Just Start) / *All* Services Off except LAN & RDC/ Persist off/No OSD / No Running Time / Minimize OS / Boost on/XTweaks : Balanced Load = *40* / Nervous Rate = 1/ Cool when Idle = NA / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Best/ Time Stability = On/ No Up-sampling/R-2R DAC
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2009, 01:35:21 pm »

Grrr ... I don't get it.

Allright, below is a version of XXEngine3.exe (paste over your current XX folder, but keep the old one !) which pops up a message at switching (and at Stop Playback). Now I need to know what the message says at switching. It's just a few numbers you may want to type over, or otherwise a screencopy is allright.

I start to be afraid it looks very normal, after which I need to know everything about your soundcard, or DAC when it's USB connected. So please prepare finding a manual for me ...

Edit : Also, for both files, click Stop during playback (can just be Attended if you want), and from both occasions also please tell me the message. Lastly, please tell which file format (according to your own judgement) goes along with what message.

* XXEngine3-09-y2a.zip (66.16 KB - downloaded 364 times.)
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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