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« on: January 18, 2010, 05:38:43 pm »

Hi Experts,

My Config :

Dell Latitude D630 with XP Professional + SP3
4 GB of RAM
Trends UD-10 used as a transport from USB to SPDIF/AES
AQVOX 1.02 ASIO USB Driver (doesn't work with the standard USB DAC XP driver)
Micromega tweaked Duetto DAC (plugged with SPDIF) or/and Micromega Duo Pro (Plugged with AES/EBU)
XXhighEnd 0.9y-500 with DAC settings set to DAC 16 bit, 48 kHz; Processor settings set to No Appointment, BelowNormal, High

I use wav or flac files (standard 16 bit, 44.1 kHz) extracted from the original CDs with Exact Audio Copy and some mp3 files (from 128 to 320).

Return about usage of  0.9y-500 : 

On wav files : doesn't work with error message : "Failed write to pin"
On flac and mp3 files :  partially work, but not enable to naturally skip to next track.

When it works, transparency and coherency are better than the last stable XP version of XXhighEnd (0.9x-4;engine 2)  with a huge gap.

Any idea will be welcome.

Hope patch could be possible.

Best regards,
Christophe


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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 08:19:48 pm »


Return about usage of  0.9y-500 : 

On wav files : doesn't work with error message : "Failed write to pin"
On flac and mp3 files :  partially work, but not enable to naturally skip to next track.



G'day Christophe,

When I got the same error message initially, Peter suggested lowering the file split size until it worked, which it eventually did.

It also wouldn't harm in grabbing the 0.9y-5-01 update while you are at it and give it a try. Probably won't help for your particular errors but ya never know.

When you have a moment, may I suggest you copy your system text as you described, and paste it into the signature area in your profile. Makes it easier for diagnosis in the future if hardware and signal paths are laid out for all to see.

Cheers,

Russ
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 08:22:31 pm »

Christophe,

Also :

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On wav files : doesn't work with error message : "Failed write to pin"
On flac and mp3 files :  partially work, but not enable to naturally skip to next track.

Are you sure about this ? I mean, I wouldn't know of anything that makes a difference between these two groups. If you are sure indeed, please make sure all lead to the same "native" bit depth and sample rate (and it is allowed to assume MP3 is 16/44.1; this does not count for wav and flac -> could be anything).

About the other things I don't know (yet). sorry
Peter
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2010, 10:19:17 am »

Hi Experts,

Installing 0.9y-502 release, XXhighEnd works perfectly now for every formats and seems to be stable.

Congratulations, sound is incredible !

Like my vinyles !  To compare it, I chose Pink Floyd The Wall ripped with Exact Audio Copy in 16 bit, 44 KHz from the original CDs and the original vinyle LPs read with the double MM Audio-Technica AT-440 MLa cartridge mounted on a tweaked Thorens TD-160 with SME arm, the bandwith is larger than XXHighend in the upper part of the spectrum; but XXHighEnd is really really really good.

Very good work !

Best regards,
Christophe.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2010, 11:19:03 am »

Hey Christophe, great to hear !

Very funny ... I perceived the "vinyl" sound from The Wall first, but that's probably because it's a nice test album for gapless (and not too long tracks). But in addition to that, I kind of explicitly did not like the album anymore (lately), while now it's there again (and I found many more of such examples).

Another small story (and some may have heard it before) :

150 or so meters from my house lives mr Van den Hul (you may Google for him, or add "frog" to his name);
Two years ago I made the appointment with him that I would convince him that vinly doesn't cut it anymore. This big meet never happened because I felt not ready for it. I was never sure why, but after hearing Engine#4 for the first time I suddenly recognized what vinyl crazies always rave about (and what I sure know from quite some years ago BUT I was always glad to return to "digital" after listening for a couple of hours to analogue).

So, the last few weeks I'm really thinking about inviting mr Van den Hul over for the big test. Of course I am not about to loose, and there's kind of no second chance.

Now, if I carefully read your "description", it's all not up to it. Or at least not for the "higher bandwidth" in the highs. Ok, I can't imagine this (at all), but if you say so, I will believe it. But then there is the DAC you use;
I am not sure how you (by now) use it, and whether it is possible for you to squeeze (at least Double) Arc Prediction through it. Maybe it's not even good for Engine#4 (like some already expressed), but it should matter in "some" direction anyway.

So, how do you use it ?

Also, do you use that special USB driver you mentioned to me by email (I seem not to be able to email you back about this subject, because each email is bounced back after some 24 hours) ?
Or can you use the legacy USB driver now ?

Thank you,
Peter
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 06:14:55 pm »

Hi Peter,

I posted to you a personal mail. But for the web site, I used the XXHighEnd 0.9y-502 as follow :

Music files are wav, flac and mp3 (all in 16 bit, 44.1 kHz)

Trends UD-10 used as Transport Converter from USB to SPDIF/AES/EBU. Careful Trends are used with external loadable Ni-Cd batteries (4*1.2V) and not with USB power.
1) Micromega Duetto DAC (2 x TDA1541) tweaked to be used in NOS mode, connected to the Trends with a RCA Cardas wire in SPDIF mode
2) Micromega Duo Pro (Bit Stream) connected to the Trends with a XLR Cardas in AES/EBU mode
AQVOX Universal USB DAC Driver Full Use (bought for 99 € !) huge better than the native XP USB Driver (USB DAC) which do not work
DAC Settings : 16 Bit, 48kHz
Processor Settings : No Appointment, BelowNormal, High
Memory And Disk Utilization : Split file at Size set to 50 vs 100
DACs are plugged to amp using Cardas wires

About feeling using this equipment :

Natural and very warm sound. For me it is the first time, from my numerical sources experiment, that I heard a sound equivalent to LP vinyle.

Hope it will be useful.

So I am very   Happy

Best regards,
Christophe
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 06:22:02 pm »

Thank you very much Christophe;

I will read your email with interest, but I think I'll respond to it (also) by a PM in here (the forum); just in case it will bounce again (which I will notice only 24 hours afterwards).

I sure hope you spent your money well on the USB driver, because I just found my own doesn't even work (read : I will solve that because I can test that myself).

Again, thanks,
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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