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Author Topic: How to get the best digital signal from PC?  (Read 46991 times)
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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2010, 11:47:47 am »

It is already done:

http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/Squeezebox/squeezebox.html

It is not about Touch model, but who cares....
Agreed, the SB receiver is an excellent platform for this BUT it does require a server whereas the Touch acts as it's own server. The Touch will also operated at 24/96

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The only problem I see is that there is no way 16/44 is upsampled, so such good thing as Arc Pred is not possible there. Whatever sound comes out of its SPDIF - it will not be as juiceful as if used XX I guess. Opinions?

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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2010, 12:06:53 pm »

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It is already done:

http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/Squeezebox/squeezebox.html

It is not about Touch model, but who cares...

I just found it on my own Happy Very nice what he says. But I have not the best experinces relying on his findings. But if he is right about the soundquality then I gues even xx highend with good usb-spdif out will be not as good. In my ears a CD transport still has some advantages (not over all, but I don't have the very best) over pc-playback in soundquality to my ears. So if squeezbox is better than any CD-Transport it must be better than xx-highend.  But I gues this must be tried to find out.
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Software: Windows7 Ultimatex64SP1 | XXHighend 9z9b
Hardware: | Gigabyte X79-UD3 | i7-3820 | 16 GB DDR3 | OS on 128 GB Samsung SSD 830  | Music on 2TB WD Caviar Green | Seasonic X-660

XXHE Settings: | Engine 4 | Adaptive | Buffer=1024 | Q12345=[14,0,0,0,0] | xQ1=1 | Q5=3 | Scheme=3 | Mixed Contiguous with SFS=12 | 176.4kHz32bit | ArcPred + Peakextend | Clock=1ms |
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2010, 12:27:48 pm »

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It is already done:

http://www.lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/Squeezebox/squeezebox.html

It is not about Touch model, but who cares...

I just found it on my own Happy Very nice what he says. But I have not the best experinces relying on his findings. But if he is right about the soundquality than I gues even xx highend with good usb-spdif out will be not as good. In my ears a CD transport still has some advantages (not over all, but I don't have the very best) over pc-playback in soundquality to my ears. So if squeezbox is better than any CD-Transport it must be better than xx-highend.  But I gues this must be tried to find out.
If you are a DIY type ( & it sounds like you are) there is a whole thread devoted to modding this unit on the slimdevices forum - I contributed myself to it - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55044

A lot of activity near the end of that thread.

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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2010, 12:50:09 pm »

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If you are a DIY type ( & it sounds like you are) there is a whole thread devoted to modding this unit on the slimdevices forum - I contributed myself to it - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55044

A lot of activity near the end of that thread.
I have done a lot DIY. Also electronics but I am care full with this. At the end it has to work everyday without bugs etc. I had a selfmade DAC with accupacks and sold it because of the recharging problem. Sound was great.
What is your opinion on the soundquality of the squeezbox compared to the xx-hiface combi?
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XXHE Settings: | Engine 4 | Adaptive | Buffer=1024 | Q12345=[14,0,0,0,0] | xQ1=1 | Q5=3 | Scheme=3 | Mixed Contiguous with SFS=12 | 176.4kHz32bit | ArcPred + Peakextend | Clock=1ms |
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2010, 12:57:50 pm »

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If you are a DIY type ( & it sounds like you are) there is a whole thread devoted to modding this unit on the slimdevices forum - I contributed myself to it - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55044

A lot of activity near the end of that thread.
I have done a lot DIY. Also electronics but I am care full with this. At the end it has to work everyday without bugs etc. I had a selfmade DAC with accupacks and sold it because of the recharging problem. Sound was great.
What is your opinion on the soundquality of the squeezbox compared to the xx-hiface combi?
I hope Peter is OK with the direction of this thread ?Happy
I can't say as I had a mishap Happy with my SBR & it has been out of commission but I would be very happy if it matched the sound of my modded Hiface & there is probably no reason why it shouldn't but it's all about the implementation.
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2010, 11:23:18 pm »

I just read something about digital (spdif) output from Network players. Sound quality ranking seems to be (worst to best): Squeezbox Duet,SonoZP90,T+A MP, Linn Sneaky DS. So, it is getting expensive again. Since I refuse to modify stuff by myself, I think about the Legato from ART http://www.analogresearch-technology.net/LEGATO.html It should be one of the best usb-spdif converters. Costs are 500€, so it costs al lot more than a HiFace. Some guy compared a Hiface against a Legato. There is no big difference. Bass seemed to be better with legato. But you never know...for now I still don't know what to do. But the Network player idea is not so interesting anymore.
If I had the money I would probably buy a Linn Akkurate DS. But 5000€ for Hifi-gear that is looking like a Mainboard with switching PS??? I rather stay with big Transformers and big Caps Happy
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XXHE Settings: | Engine 4 | Adaptive | Buffer=1024 | Q12345=[14,0,0,0,0] | xQ1=1 | Q5=3 | Scheme=3 | Mixed Contiguous with SFS=12 | 176.4kHz32bit | ArcPred + Peakextend | Clock=1ms |
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