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« on: March 13, 2010, 03:44:00 pm »

Foreword:
-note that i'm in attended and my goal is also to scroll the library (rip to gallery? Happy ) and select albums
-I'll check autohotkey as well, but for now i'm playing with Girder.
-I'm using girder 4.052, if it's worth it i'll buy the latest version (and if Peter makes a script for it that can be downloaded :D)

I like the "command capture", but I'm having issues with the buttons, namely play, stop and pause (i think because they send command to xxengine3.exe).
When i try to learn the commands, let's say play, this is what girder registers (picture 1).
I tried to make a macro and do all of them but it still doesnt work. Theoretically the last one should work (and it does also alone, when i registered the command the first time).

The command works only for the instance of xxhe that i have open at the moment. If i close xxhe and open it again, then the above commands do not work anymore.

I'll try to look into the autohotkey script that you (Peter) made for clues Happy


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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 04:08:36 pm »

If you use the ←↕→ buttons (also AHK) you actually can scroll thru the library, but you can not select an album
when a folder is blue highlighted, there should be an "enter" button to select album, somehow
This is missing   swoon

Also EventGhost is a nice program !

This could be an option too AIRMOUSE
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 04:37:29 pm »

Peter,

Can there be an option (code) to select an album.
You can use buttons (macro's) to scroll thru gallery, this goes pretty fast, but there is no means to select an album (or track).
Can you imply this somehow, together with maybe a button (AHK) to select Library section,
WITH "auto blue highlight" the upper album in the Library section so you also can select an album from there.

Hope this makes sense ?

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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 06:04:49 pm »

If you use the ←↕→ buttons (also AHK) you actually can scroll thru the library, but you can not select an album

I didnt try that yet, but the scrollbars in the gallery do work.
the scrollbars in the playlist area iirc have the same issue as play/stop/pause.

This is in the ahk XX script to call play.
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   ControlClick, &Play, XXHighEnd,, Left, , ,Studio
   return

hmmm
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2010, 02:02:06 pm »

Remote works with Console (included the damn confirmation closing popup window).

I'm still puzzled about the play/pause/stop commands of XXHE, but I'm a stubborn guy...
(hoping a little help from Peter, when he's done fixing bugs of his own :D)
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2010, 05:21:19 pm »

Success! Using the hotkeys it works.

All but Previous (ALT+p) - it either works only in UNATTENDED (opposite of what it's written), or i'm clueless.
Since, it's not something i do often, for the moment i give up.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 06:49:22 pm »

Success! Using the hotkeys it works.

All but Previous (ALT+p) - it either works only in UNATTENDED (opposite of what it's written), or i'm clueless.
Since, it's not something i do often, for the moment i give up.

Good,

Now if you have a remote with cursor-keys (←↕→ ) then you could use them too function the cursor macros of keyboard too.
And scroll thru library of xx.
Now if there is only a way to select an album, I don't know if that blue highlighten layer of windows accepts a means of selecting
something ?? (a file needs to be clicked on one time (not hoover) before the enter button opens anything)
 dntknw

I think it should have two types of scrolling, thru gallery and thru library window.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2010, 07:20:23 pm »

There are many bugged things in windows e/o girder. I dont know, windows maximize just stopped working and that made my day.
Scrolling on the scrollbars causes even more bugs that i think i gave up on that. Jumping from tree to the gallery can be as cumbersome as well.

I think we need Peter's help in providing the means (names and commands) for the remote scripting to work nicely. Otherwise is just a big headache.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2010, 07:32:34 pm »

I will look into it, as I have to look into (all !) these things anyway. But maybe not right now ...

Notice that it is not all that difficult to provide you with "commands" that jump to an area, scroll per custom means, or in the end anything. They just have to be analysed and defined. On that matter you may create a post in this topic with all your needs, and add something to it when you run into it;
When everything is nicely summarized together, I will work it out. Ok ?
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2010, 07:37:09 pm »

All but Previous (ALT+p) - it either works only in UNATTENDED (opposite of what it's written), or i'm clueless.
Since, it's not something i do often, for the moment i give up.

Do you mean you can do Alt-p (Previous track) at Unattended and that works ? I can't imagine that ...
Or ?
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
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For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2010, 08:19:38 pm »


Do you mean you can do Alt-p (Previous track) at Unattended and that works ? I can't imagine that ...
Or ?

No, that it doesnt work at attended unhappy

I'll analyze the commands that are too hard to make or that dont work and then i'll make a post under here.

I also have a couple more of suggestions to improve the UI. Happy
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 08:49:57 pm »

I'll analyze the commands that are too hard to make or that dont work and then i'll make a post under here.

OK, so what is needed is the following:

1) Prev button to work - not sure why, but it doesnt.

2) Library. Here is needed the most work. In the application, an easy way to switch between the treeview (explorer) and the album gallery.
Moreover, the mouse should follow the selection - that is the ONLY way to make an album selection work with a remote.
Unlilke Roy, I managed to make it work - but only for the few albums that are already in the gallery window. The process was kind of overcomplex (focus to xxhe, focus to the gallery sub-window, mouse coordinates to about the center of the first album, rightclick, left-click. Then to navigate, the standard mediacenter arrows do work, but i had to tell the mouse to jump about 85 pixels). And here another problem:

2b) The gallery does not work 100% of the times, I mean jumping from an album to the other using the arrows. Sometimes it just skip one, jumping to the other. This is bad, it f*cks the mouse completely. And no mouse, no doubleclick, no doubleclick no playback.

2c) Also some easy way (hotkey?) to select the scrollbar in the library.

3) Playlist. Easier way to use the scrollbar. I'm not using it. I doubleclick on the location of the first track and from there the simulated keyboard arrows work just fine.

So far, my PC is 90% usable with my harmony only.
Girder gets a thumbs up. Worth the 30€.

PS: When you have changed the font size and go back to smaller fonts, the scrollbars stay BIG and ugly (they dont reset with the reset button you put)
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 08:51:53 pm »

PS: If there are any users of girder, i'll post the script, but note that uses some customized buttons (both in IRTrans config and in the Harmony - a normal remote would be too much limited), that i did to lessen my headaches, and that it controls also Console.jp.
All the process took in excess of 7 hours, split in 3 days.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 09:00:16 pm »

If you use the ←↕→ buttons (also AHK) you actually can scroll thru the library, but you can not select an album
when a folder is blue highlighted, there should be an "enter" button to select album, somehow
This is missing   swoon

I found out that only doubleclick work on a selected album, but of course the mouse pointer must be there.
See my long reply with suggestions for Peter Happy
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