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« on: July 29, 2007, 08:08:35 pm »

I've ripped my CDs using EAC and the IMG button on the left hand side of EAC.  This rips the cd into one big single wav file and a cue file that holds all the title, timings...

Because XXHE is more geared toward individual song wav files, I've begun using EACs CUE splitter.  This splits the big single wav into individual song wavs (and also creates a new cue file for them; my backups are still single wav/cue files until I'm sure what I'm doing).

To use this CUE splitter option:
EAC > Tools (tab at top of eac) > Spilt WAV By CUE Sheet > (and then several options) With Gaps; With Gaps Corrected; Leave Out Gaps; Individual Indices

I've never worried about what GAPS really were because it was all done with a single button push...

My main question is - What option should I use?  So far I've assummed "With Gaps".  What do you think?

Also, Do you think this is giving me the same files as I would get ripping the CD using: Copy Selected Tracks > Uncompressed   ??
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2007, 12:41:14 am »

The latter would be about some means of compression (like FLAC ?), and personally I did not try it.

Per the current 0.9h version 100% decent gapless should be available;
I really don't know about "leaving the gaps in" or "removing the gaps" options of EAC, but removing them will never bring them back when they should be in.

Please note that this is rather more complicated than it seems at first sight, and that I spent several 10ts of hours improving things to 100% opposed to the "too simple" version 0.9g. This might be about missing a few to several hundreds of samples between tracks, to missing 30ms or so at the end of a track. Note that the latter is related, and is adding additional complications.

Dave, it is the same as with the "cue file theory" ... what you cut out, can never be gotten back. Thus ... removing gaps at ripping, will not get them back at playback when they should be there ...
It is really the intelligence of the playback what should cause all to be without anomalies; If not properly done in a current version (whatever player) ... just improve in a next. yes
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2007, 09:14:41 am »

ima going to cry :/... but I think? it's a happy story in the end... i've redone my Folk collection ~ 100 gigs, about 3 times now. :/  don't read this ... it will make your head bleed

First off... you all know I've been working on splitting my single wav plus cue files into individual song wav files.  No matter what, at this point, I'm keeping these single album wav files plus cue files as backup.  I think it's the safest way to have the orginal cd info on file (gap settings, title info...) But,
I've been going through hell trying to create multi song files PLUS a cue file for them too, (if I was just trying to get the song wav files it would be no problem).
First off I tried using cue splitter from EAC or creating cue files with Use Current Gap settings... but this most of the time doesn't work and gives a cue file that doubles songs, leaves songs off,  or ...it's just messed up... spent way to much time editing the cues and gave up thinking had to be a better way.  Also tried using daemon tools, my single wav/cue, but it gave the same problem... course I didn't notice until I was most of the way through ripping...So, I tried using EAC "Multiple wavs with corrected gaps" yea, I thought, the cue file looks right and on first play, it played... let her rip... get done and start playing songs... omfg, it cuts off the first few seconds of the song... on the wav itself :/ crymeariver..Been going at this off and on for 3 days now wtf

Was going to give up on the cue files for the multi wavs... but found this program called Medieval Cue-Splitter http://www.medieval.it/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=70
and now that I know what problem areas to look for, (spent the latter part of this day checking it out), I think it works.  Will take about 1 min to do split if I don't change any info... but the good part is, if I want to change info I can do that pretty easy.  Now that I'm pretty sure what I want for info, I'm ready to tackle the splits again.  My cue files will be named automatically, %A(lbum artist name) - %y(ear) - %T(album title) - %g(enre) Pulls that from previous cue info or i add in.  My wav files will be: for single artist; %A(lbum artist name) %y(ear) %T(album title) %n(song number order) %t(rack title); for various artist albums it's; %n(song number order) %A(lbum artist name) [which comes out Various] %y(ear) %T(album title) %a(rtist name doing the song) %t(rack title)

K, I'm off to shower, then spend the night doing this if I can manage to stay awake.... I want to listen to version H dagnabit... but i get so single minded wanna finish... well, it's in the background now in another room.  12 am here in california wish me luck
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2007, 10:28:36 am »

Well ... let me wish you luck then !

And keep the "originals" until you're sure all is okay !!

Btw, it looks like you can process all in one go (batchprocessing).
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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