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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2013, 07:05:31 am »

Hi Mark,

So ... Yesterday we stayed the night in Santa Cruz and stupid me was seriously thinking where I heard that name recently. Now I now, UPS forms ...  smirk smirk Oh boy ...

All right. Thank you for your kind words.
And hey, on that USB cable ... I knew it was there because I saw it the first night. But I guess I was too dizzy after a 16.5 hr flight and 9 hours behind to even try thinking about that should be a wrong thing. Really. swoon

Mark, it has been a great pleasure meeting you and chat a bit. And you really were the first visitor !

All the best from Carmel today, with the notice that I have never seen so many Ferrari's, Lamborghini's and so many other beautiful (old) cars, many worth more than a million (great auction and show here the upcoming days). Drooling !

Thank you Mark,
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2013, 05:35:23 pm »

Hey Peter, great to see you are vacationing in the area.  I got to help  prep cars for the Gooding auction this week, which was lots of fun since normally you cannot get close or touch anything.  Some very unique and irrereplaceable cars in that lot, although even the streets contain a lot of rare machinery right now, as I'm sure you've noticed. Sadly I will be working the rest of the week in Big Sur.  Do you plan on making it down there?

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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2013, 06:12:28 pm »

Oh and hello Mark as well! Nice to see another local here.  I grew up and lived in Santa Cruz area until I moved to Big Sur a couple years ago.  I still visit often, usually several times a month.  Might be a good thing to know another NOS1 owner so nearby.  Mine isn't completed yet, but once things get settled it might be nice to compare notes.

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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2013, 06:52:20 pm »

Hey Matt !

We will be in Big Sur tonight for sure. If you think it could be nice to meet somewhere, send me an email about a place. Could be a restaurant of course. Or just a beer earlier. Or anything. Name a time too.

Last night we were looking right on top of one of those Ferrari's and I said "look son, one with this color will be going out shortly". A Wow was the response.

Looking forward, if possible at all of course.
Peter & Gang
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

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W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2013, 08:21:16 pm »

Hi Peter,

Gee, I wish I'd known you were in town last night, Roberta and I could have taken you and yours out to dinner, or Roberta would have enjoyed cooking something yummy for you at our house.  Of course, then I would have put you to work helping set up my new toys in the listening room, turning your trip into more of a working vacation--not what you need right now!

If you're in Big Sur for lunch today (it's almost lunchtime as I write), go to Nepenthe; what a view!  Matt might suggest the restaurant at Post Ranch Inn for dinner, but that would set you back some serious money; but, like Nepenthe, a killer view.  Less spectacular a view but equally fine food (for less money) can be had at Ventana Inn.  Matt will surely have some great input on this.  Enjoy!

Hi Matt, great to hear of another (relatively) close Phasure Phan!  Maybe after you and I finally get our systems settled in we can meet for some listening/tweaking.

Peter, have fun...you're hitting some great weather here on the coast!

Mark
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« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2013, 07:46:07 pm »

Hey Mark, We enjoyed having you visit the room. Thanks for the comments above and please let the forum know how the NOS1 is settling in.

Here we are almost a week after the show and I think overall the event was very good for Phasure. First, Peter was able to introduce his personal brand to the West Coast and meet/chat in depth with a number of Bay Area based engineers in the field. Second, although the room sound wasn't perfect by any means, the SQL was extremely smooth and extended out into the room nicely. After fighting with the very bright Heil tweeter for half a day, we decided to cover them with a sock (literally) and stick with songs that emphasized the speaker's strong points: dynamics, low-level detail, ambience.

The speakers were Surreal Audio Fifth Row speakers, an interesting design that consisted of the ESS Heil AMT tweeter on top, a 7" mid range driver hand made by David Chaffey of DC Gold Audio, and six 10" bass drivers in a separate bass enclosure. We used a Crown Xti 4002 amp to power the bass and a beautiful Wells Audio Innamurata SS amp to power mid and tweeters. The speakers can be seen here:
http://www.surreal-sound.net

I first heard the Surreal speakers at Newport and thought they sounded great. What happened unfortunately was the speakers were altered after the Newport show, for what reason we know not. The mid range driver was pulled and swapped for the DC Gold Audio 7" cone, and the Heil tweeter was installed with no resistors in the line to attenuate it's brightness. I am told the crossover point for the new mid range cone was never adjusted properly and there was a resulting mid-bass hole in a crucial area, along with extremely bright sound from the Heil. The room sound really emphasized the upper mid and treble of music. Peter was the first to notice on day one that things weren't right.

The crucial mistake for me was in keying up a track by Lorraine Hunt Lieberson for Jason, Lorraine is one of his favorite sopranos. At low volumes, Lorraine's voice was sweet and smooth. But as the song climaxed, her voice began to break up at top and Jason's well-tuned ears saw it coming.

In retrospect, anyone of the relatively unknown components we brought together could have gone wrong and I think Peter's point from above is that we may use his equipment/speakers for any further shows. Overall, the room sound had strengths and weaknesses, but the smooth and harmonically rich sound we encountered, and deep extended soundstage, were noted by all who listened.

Per Peter's comments above about the Zalman, he is correct. We used two computers connected via x-over cable, my Zalman fabless (Zuma) design used as storage and his XXHighend/Silverstone pc as the player pc running a RAMdrive.

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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2013, 08:15:52 pm »

Hi All,
Slight correction to the comment about the mid-range in the Fifth-Row speaker. The speaker was built for the Newport Show where we were using the Atma-Sphere OTL amp - it has a reverse impedance power curve, so the speaker was designed to be more efficient in the mid-range with a slightly higher impedance mid-range driver than the tweeter. Because of time limitations and spacing out a bit, I did not have time to swap out the mid-range before the California Audio Show as I should have, to balance the sound. The highs were a bit "forward" - my mistake.
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« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2013, 06:38:36 am »

Hi there David,

Don't feel bad about this. Worse things in life exist, right ?
And hey, we better thank you for all of your help !

Best regards,
Peter
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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