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« on: November 22, 2015, 09:53:27 am »


Build 10074 (64 bits) :
http://getintopc.com/softwares/operating-systems/windows-10-build-10074-iso-32-64-bit-free-download/
Set (BIOS) System Date in between Sept. 2 2015 and Sept. 30 2015 (both u/i).


Build 10565 (64 bits) :
http://iso.esd.microsoft.com/W10IP/BF15E0F8F8F6B6BFCD0F62892BFBA60756371D21/Windows10_InsiderPreview_x64_EN-GB_10565.iso
Expires July 2016.


Build 10586.0 (64 bits and for those with an XXHighEnd 2.xx license only) :
Drop phasure at dotcom an email.
Does not expire.


N.b.: Build 10240 is regarded to be too poor to be workable for us and SQ is bad as well.

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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 03:56:03 am »

For Win10 10586 you said to email. To what address -- or it just occurred to me it may be a joke as I saw elsewhere that you won't respond to emails about topics -- meaning 'you' figure how to install Win10 10586.

I downloaded 10585 and I saw a key on that web site but it has limited life. Haven't tried to install.

I looked over the many posts on Win10 and tried the links which took me to a general download page (10586).

I have a test SSD so I can swap back to the original.

Other questions:

1. Is it too early to try Win10 and XXHE 2.03? (being that it needs specific builds)

2. I downloaded Win10 1511 (Tech Bench) and tried to install but it requires a key. I saw somewhere that using your key for another version would work. - it didn't.

3. Could install Win7 then upgrade to Win10 but what version would it be and not worth while if it has bad SQ.

So, where is the activation Key for Win 10? Did I miss it somehow when I downloaded?
Some of you figured it out so it can be done.
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XXHE RAM OS disk as of 2016.01.22 using Win10586

Player1: SuperMicro X11SPM-F, pre-owned Intel 6152 Gold Scalable 22 cores (set to 20), 6x8GB, Corsair GS600 ATX PS, 2.5-inch SANDISK Plus SSD for RAMOS - remains after booting, M.2 Kinston NV2 1TB NVME PCIe 4.0 Gen 4x4 3500MB/s music disk (or use external via Ethernet); cannot use M.2 NVMe SSD as boot device with CSM legacy boot so used a 2.5 inch SSD for booting; using onboard USB3.0 to DAC with good results but haven't tried my Silverstone USB card. Use KVM with 15 inch "portable" display once booted.  AMAZING SENSE OF REALISM

Player2 (retired): ASRock Fatal1ty X99M Killer/3.1, was i7-5960X 8 cores changed to a pre-owned E5-2699v3 18 cores (set to 14), 48GB 2400MHz DDR4 RAM, RAMOS Win10586 on 120GB M.2 SSD, music files over LAN, ASUS GT210 Silent Graphics card, Silverstone USB 3.0 card

Music Server:  ASROCK BeeBox direct Ethernet connection to player PC

XXHE 2.11 since about 4/2023 for the CPU core selection feature; arc predict; Min OS;attended or unattended; Device: Denafrips v5.0 or KS Amanero Streaming depending on DAC; KS Mode: Adaptive; Device Buffer: 2048 or 4096;  tweaks - 43/1/-/1/1,  Q1:14, Q3,4,5: 1; SFS 1 to 5; Straight Contiguous; Garbage Collect (sometimes can select); Clear Proxy; Denafrips Venus II DAC is 24bit/192KHz, DIY Dual ES9018 DAC is 32bits 384KHz; Cores 3-5; Player Prio:low; Thread Prio:RealTime; Clock Resolution:15ms; Stop Services (desktop, remaining, WASAPI and WIN10); Use Remote Desktop; Don't Keep LAN, PAN or WiFi; OSD Text; Show as Wall Paper

Equipment: Denafrips Venus II R2R DAC and DIY Dual ES9018 Twisted Pear Audio DAC boards using Amanero USB receiver (384KHz) with isolated buffer (ISO7640FM), preamp is DIY Lynn Olson Raven with an added Phono Preamp; Douglas Self Trimodal selectable Class A or Class AB 20W amp; Klipschorns (modified slightly); balanced mains power transformers: one for amp and one for low level equip; Alt. Speaker: ScanSpeak (2) 10" Revelator, (2) Illuminator 4", (1) Beryllium Dome Tweeter, tuned ports

Room Treatment: 4, 4 x 24 x 48 inch panels
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 10:06:43 am »

The email address is written in the first post in this topic. But it is hidden a bit for bots. And no, it is no joke.

You don't need to enter the Key at installation. Follow the posts in here a little, and you'd know ? Just don't enter it.

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1. Is it too early to try Win10 and XXHE 2.03?

No, 2.03 is fine !

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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2017, 01:29:06 am »

For those of you who don't want to bother Peter for the link, you can download an ISO image of W10 Build 10586.0 from this site:

     WindowsISO.net

At the top of their home page, go to the "Windows 10 ISO" drop-down menu and select "Windows 10 TH1 Download." TH1 is code for the original Build 10586.0.

From there, select the edition you want from the TH1 drop-down menu. I suggest the "N" edition because it does not have many of the media-related apps, such as camera and the Windows Media Player, built-in. All editions are available in many different languages. The downloads, themselves, are actually from Microsoft's servers, which are linked from the WindowsISO.net site.

If you're asked for an installation key, for the Professional Standard (full) edition use:

     W269N-WFGWX-YVC9B-4J6C9-T83GX

and for the Professional N edition, use:

     MH37W-N47XK-V7XM9-C7227-GCQG9

The KN edition is in Korean only. A link to keys for other editions can be found at the top of the first drop-down menu.

You should install it with your Internet connection disabled and then with "Stop Windows Updates" selected in XXHE before reconnecting. To do this, in later versions of XXHE, right-click on the Stop button at the bottom of the Playlist window.

If you have a problem booting from the installation disc, install from within an existing Windows OS that has the same architecture (x32 or x64). I found that it was easier to locate the installation disc in the File Explorer and proceed by double-clicking on Setup.exe.

While you'll have to purchase an activation code to unlock every feature, in practical terms, it's not necessary for a dedicated XXHE PC. Unlike 10074, this version never expires, so you can keep your PC's calendar on the actual date.

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XXHE 2.11a / Windows 10 Pro x64, Build 10586.0 / i7-2600S / Hyperthreading On / Running 4 out of 8 cores / 16GB RAM / Engine#4 / KS Adaptive Mode / Buffer = 1024 / Clock Res = 1ms / XTweaks Settings: 43 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 / Proc Core Scheme 3-5 / Player Priority = Low / Thread Priority = Realtime / Memory = Straight Contiguous / SFS = 10.13 (Max = 10.13) / Include Garbage Collect / Copy to XX-Drive (SSD) / Unattended / Stop Desktop Services, Stop Remaining Services, Stop WASAPI Services, Stop ALL Services, Stop W10 Services / Do Not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Time Stability = Stable / Time Performance Index = Optimum / Custom Filter = Low 705600 / Don't do anything with Cover Art / Normalize On / Digital Volume = -6.0dB / Q1=0, xQ1=0, Q3=0, Q4=0, Q5=0 / Majority Clean 2.84

Audio System:

StarTech USB 3.0 Card w/outboard Regulated Linear Power Supply >  UltraFi DAC-41 w/outboard Regulated Linear Power Supply > Passive Preamp > 300B DHT SET Mono Amps > 15" Tannoy 3808 OB Main Speakers + Velodyne ULD-15 Subwoofers
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2017, 10:53:03 am »

Thank you Joseph.

Kind regards,
Peter
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2017, 11:05:43 pm »

Update:

I experimented further with both versions of the 10586.0 mentioned above and can no longer recommend the "N". In a test install over 10074, it deleted all of the apps in the Programs Files, both x86 and x64. It also failed to recognized all of the actions that I had taken to turn off W10 features in the earlier install, disabled some of the ports on my USB add-in card, and could not be activated. Ay Caramba!

However, the Standard (Full) installation worked perfectly. It remembered all of the previous settings, preserved all of the installed apps, and I was able to activate it by using the Activation Key as a new product ID.

As usual, your experience may vary.

Cheers,
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XXHE 2.11a / Windows 10 Pro x64, Build 10586.0 / i7-2600S / Hyperthreading On / Running 4 out of 8 cores / 16GB RAM / Engine#4 / KS Adaptive Mode / Buffer = 1024 / Clock Res = 1ms / XTweaks Settings: 43 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 / Proc Core Scheme 3-5 / Player Priority = Low / Thread Priority = Realtime / Memory = Straight Contiguous / SFS = 10.13 (Max = 10.13) / Include Garbage Collect / Copy to XX-Drive (SSD) / Unattended / Stop Desktop Services, Stop Remaining Services, Stop WASAPI Services, Stop ALL Services, Stop W10 Services / Do Not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Time Stability = Stable / Time Performance Index = Optimum / Custom Filter = Low 705600 / Don't do anything with Cover Art / Normalize On / Digital Volume = -6.0dB / Q1=0, xQ1=0, Q3=0, Q4=0, Q5=0 / Majority Clean 2.84

Audio System:

StarTech USB 3.0 Card w/outboard Regulated Linear Power Supply >  UltraFi DAC-41 w/outboard Regulated Linear Power Supply > Passive Preamp > 300B DHT SET Mono Amps > 15" Tannoy 3808 OB Main Speakers + Velodyne ULD-15 Subwoofers
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2017, 11:04:33 am »

Hey Joseph,

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In a test install over 10074, it deleted all of the apps in the Programs Files, both x86 and x64.


Ehh, WHAT ?
Are you saying you use such an ISO to Upgrade an OS like 10074 ?

?

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Peter
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2018, 05:56:26 pm »

Anybody tried 16299?
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W10 14393 Pro x64 | XXHE 2.10 | MinOS | Q=14x1/0/0/0/0 | SFS 5,19 mixed contiguous | Nervous rate 1 | 4096k buffer |

Hardware:
OrigenAE H5 case | E5300 fanless |  8GB RAM | Winmate DC-DC fanless PSU | OS on SSD | Renesas USB3 pcie card | Belden highspeed usb cable | Audio-gd dac19 NOS with sigxer F1 | My_ref_FE mono amps | Albedo Apex speakers
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2018, 10:19:41 am »

Hi Telstar,

Maybe people do/did, but IMO it would be by accident or "not knowing better". XXHighEnd has to support the Build of concern formally, or otherwise nobody would know why things go bad or sound bad etc. So currently there's only formal support for 10074 (sounds special but these days not on par), 10240 (sounds bad), 10565, 10586.0 (is OK), 14393.0 (consensus about being the best).
Ever back I downloaded 15063 (Creators Upgrade) but I never did anything with it because it was generally regarded to be the opposite of lean.

Also notice that these days many (me among them) use the RAM-OS Disk, and this has become a reference. IOW, only when I make a from RAM bootable version of it (takes a small day all 'n all) I can judge its merits. So only when a special version is around the corner with a fair chance of better sound, I do it. Then, when all looks promising, I start to attack all the bugs, anomalies and other specialties. After that it is formally supported (no upgrades to it allowed, which XXHighEnd takes care of).

Now you are up to date informed again ... Happy
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For the Stealth III LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 06:59:36 pm »

The fall creators update may be worth a look.
But for now I'll get 14393 that is tested well-sounding.

I dont have enough memory for a ramdisk install, the ssd will have to do for now.
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OrigenAE H5 case | E5300 fanless |  8GB RAM | Winmate DC-DC fanless PSU | OS on SSD | Renesas USB3 pcie card | Belden highspeed usb cable | Audio-gd dac19 NOS with sigxer F1 | My_ref_FE mono amps | Albedo Apex speakers
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2018, 09:05:21 am »

Telstar, FYI because possibly you don't know what "RAM-OS" means : Disk with Multi-RAM-boot available for purchase.
And : The Operating System booted from RAM.

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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2018, 06:52:02 pm »


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In a test install over 10074, it deleted all of the apps in the Programs Files, both x86 and x64.

Ehh, WHAT ?
Are you saying you use such an ISO to Upgrade an OS like 10074 ?

Yes, I downloaded the ISO for 10586 Standard Edition (it is actually the Pro edition), burned it onto a DVD-R, and installed it over 10074. It retained all of my third-party apps, like XXHE, without deleting the existing licenses. So, XXHE was still activated and all of my settings were still in place.

To save space, I then ran the Disc Clean-Up utility and deleted the 'Windows Old' folder, which kept build 10074 available in case I wanted to roll 10586 back to the earlier version.

To clarify the 10586 download instructions, go to:

http://windowsiso.net/

At the top of their home page, go to the "Windows 10 ISO" drop-down menu at the top and select "Windows 10 TH1 Download." TH1 is code for the original Build 10586.0. DO NOT click on the large graphic on the lower right of that page or you will download the latest version.

From there, select the edition you want from the TH1 drop-down menu. It should be the "Standard" edition, NOT the N or KR.

If you're asked for an installation key, for the Professional Standard (full) edition use:

     W269N-WFGWX-YVC9B-4J6C9-T83GX

Of course, you will still have to obtain an activation key to unlock all of the OS features, but they are mainly related to personalization. If you don't care about these, it will still function well enough to use XXHE.

~Joseph

PS. Apologies for the delay in responding -- I don't consult the forum very often.
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XXHE 2.11a / Windows 10 Pro x64, Build 10586.0 / i7-2600S / Hyperthreading On / Running 4 out of 8 cores / 16GB RAM / Engine#4 / KS Adaptive Mode / Buffer = 1024 / Clock Res = 1ms / XTweaks Settings: 43 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 / Proc Core Scheme 3-5 / Player Priority = Low / Thread Priority = Realtime / Memory = Straight Contiguous / SFS = 10.13 (Max = 10.13) / Include Garbage Collect / Copy to XX-Drive (SSD) / Unattended / Stop Desktop Services, Stop Remaining Services, Stop WASAPI Services, Stop ALL Services, Stop W10 Services / Do Not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Time Stability = Stable / Time Performance Index = Optimum / Custom Filter = Low 705600 / Don't do anything with Cover Art / Normalize On / Digital Volume = -6.0dB / Q1=0, xQ1=0, Q3=0, Q4=0, Q5=0 / Majority Clean 2.84

Audio System:

StarTech USB 3.0 Card w/outboard Regulated Linear Power Supply >  UltraFi DAC-41 w/outboard Regulated Linear Power Supply > Passive Preamp > 300B DHT SET Mono Amps > 15" Tannoy 3808 OB Main Speakers + Velodyne ULD-15 Subwoofers
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 07:24:19 pm »

Hi Joseph,

Great stuff for me, just because I didn't know that.

Still it would be so that I'd never install an OS like that. Too many things are dragged along under the hood (not the best for audio).

My HDD's are countless. Almost more than CD's these days.
Haha.

Thanks !
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2018, 05:01:05 pm »

Peter,

I should add that I began the 10586 install from within 10074. By which I mean that I booted the XXHE PC with 10074 (which was already installed), loaded the 10586 disc into the DVD drive, located it in the File Explorer, and clicked on "Setup.exe"

First, I also disconnected the PC from the Internet to prevent the possibility of automatic updates. On the opening installation screen, I bypassed the "check for updates" option. Before reconnecting, I opened XXHE and in the Play window, right clicked on the Stop button and checked "Stop Windows updates."

It is entirely possible that booting from the 10586 DVD will also preserve the existing apps, but I cannot verify that. For some unknown reason, my PC would not boot from the installation DVD, which is why I updated it from within the existing OS.

I understand from my friend Zheng that you now recommend Build 14393. Of course, every time you install a new build all of the W10 defaults and useless apps are re-installed, too, which means spending two hours to tweak the OS back to its basic form, without the add-ons and default settings.

Cheers,
Joseph
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XXHE 2.11a / Windows 10 Pro x64, Build 10586.0 / i7-2600S / Hyperthreading On / Running 4 out of 8 cores / 16GB RAM / Engine#4 / KS Adaptive Mode / Buffer = 1024 / Clock Res = 1ms / XTweaks Settings: 43 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 / Proc Core Scheme 3-5 / Player Priority = Low / Thread Priority = Realtime / Memory = Straight Contiguous / SFS = 10.13 (Max = 10.13) / Include Garbage Collect / Copy to XX-Drive (SSD) / Unattended / Stop Desktop Services, Stop Remaining Services, Stop WASAPI Services, Stop ALL Services, Stop W10 Services / Do Not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Time Stability = Stable / Time Performance Index = Optimum / Custom Filter = Low 705600 / Don't do anything with Cover Art / Normalize On / Digital Volume = -6.0dB / Q1=0, xQ1=0, Q3=0, Q4=0, Q5=0 / Majority Clean 2.84

Audio System:

StarTech USB 3.0 Card w/outboard Regulated Linear Power Supply >  UltraFi DAC-41 w/outboard Regulated Linear Power Supply > Passive Preamp > 300B DHT SET Mono Amps > 15" Tannoy 3808 OB Main Speakers + Velodyne ULD-15 Subwoofers
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2018, 05:05:48 pm »

I understand from my friend Zheng that you now recommend Build 14393. Of course, every time you install a new build all of the W10 defaults and useless apps are re-installed, too, which means spending two hours to tweak the OS back to its basic form, without the add-ons and default settings.

Yeah, that's why I went straight to the 14393 Happy
But an update to a bare OS such as the one we use should be trouble-free.
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Hardware:
OrigenAE H5 case | E5300 fanless |  8GB RAM | Winmate DC-DC fanless PSU | OS on SSD | Renesas USB3 pcie card | Belden highspeed usb cable | Audio-gd dac19 NOS with sigxer F1 | My_ref_FE mono amps | Albedo Apex speakers
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