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Author Topic: I just played a DSD track with XXHE!  (Read 208 times)
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bodiebill
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« on: October 03, 2017, 10:41:33 pm »

Playing DSD with XXHE: I did not think it was possible, but it is!
I just did it.
Can anyone guess how? I am sure Peter knows!
(I must admit it wasn't my own idea.)
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 08:04:37 am »

Dennis, I most certainly can't !

scratching Peter
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 09:30:25 am »

OK here goes:

I took a DSD file and used VinylStudio to convert it to DoP. This is not an actual conversion but a lossless re-packaging of the DSD. The DSD stream remains intact, although encapsulated in a WAV container. Then I played this 'WAV file' – so actually a disguised DSD file – with XXHE into a DSD-only DAC. At first there was no sound, but after putting the volume slider at 100% and removing upsampling: voilà, music!

Does it make sense?

I am thankful to pm325 on the ComputerAudiophile forum for pointing me into this direction.

 Happy Dennis
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 11:58:35 am »

Oh boy ...
Just a very short first response :

So it was very me who introduced DoP to "Miska" (of HQPlayer) and explained to him what to do with that. Mind you, nobody heard of that back at the time. It was regarded as a bit (haha) of fake, but, it worked. Btw, dCS invented it.

And now you are telling me that out of all, me myself never understood it well, and that in 2017, 6 years after DoP saw light, XXHighEnd can just use that.

swoon Peter  Out of here
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Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2017, 12:29:41 pm »

Isn't that wonderful, how things start to lead their own lives and then come together again? smile

Alas, there are only very few (and some somewhat obscure) tools that can pack DSD as DoP.
VinylStudio works but is a little awkward as it is 'collection'-based and expects to work with existing albums.
Maybe someone knows of any alternative?

Dennis
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