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hvdh
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« on: October 16, 2017, 08:51:29 pm »

 Last week my audioPC started acting up, and instead of finding the problem I decided to ditch Win10 10585 and start over with a clean slate with win10 14393.

After I got all that running, I decided to start using a RAMdisk.
I had never done this before, but as I am rather lazy, I thought to streamline Peter's process a little.

So I rewrote parts of his Rama.bat file, and this resulted in RAMDisk_XXHighend.cmd (attached)

I put a link in the start-up folder so  if all goes well:
- at boot the XXhighend control panel is started. (Peter put this link in himself)
- at boot two RAMdisks are created.
- all needed XXHighend data and software is copied to these two RAMdisks.
- XXHighend is started in RAM.

This works well in MAXos, but for some reason not so peachy in MINos.

So now I wonder, what am I doing wrong? Is anybody willing to take a look at the cmd file and suggest improvements?

Sidenote:
Before this cmd file can be used, I need to create the RAMdisks once, otherwise I can not make the necessary changes to the XXhighend settings before I start using the ramdisk version.

Regards,

Henk

* RAMDisk_XXhighend.cmd (1.34 KB - downloaded 17 times.)
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Win10 14393.0 / music on LAN /  / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 30/-/1/1/1 / xQ1 = 40 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Not Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 20.19  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/  / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive / Stop Desktop-Remaining-WASAPI-W10 Services / Keep LAN - Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 42 / Nervous Rate = 100 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Arc Predict -> Clairixa USB 0.80 meter -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a DAC With B'ass and Phisolator -> BAlanced interlink -> Apogee Grand loudspeakers, using STAX dma-x2 (midrange ribbon) / Krell FPB600C (bass ribbon)

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2017, 08:53:25 am »

Hi there Henk,


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This works well in MAXos, but for some reason not so peachy in MINos.

I suppose you can guess that this is hardly a description I can deal with. Agreed ? haha

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So now I wonder, what am I doing wrong?

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I had never done this before, but as I am rather lazy, I thought to streamline Peter's process a little.

That. Your lazyness is fine though. Happy

I am not sure whether you read / used this topic :
Installing and using a RAMDisk (IMDisk) but notice that at the bottom in there there's this link which includes a RAMA.bat.
If you already used that, then I suppose your problem is that you removed the aiding texts from it, so now you don't know what to do any more (?). Anyway, I'd keep that A: en B: drive the same because otherwise the drive letters may be occupied (A: and B: never, unless you you still use floppy drives whistle). Now you can not make mistakes if you follow the "guide".

I don't know better as that this works for everyone, also in MinOS.

Best regards,
Peter
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W10-14393.0 - March 23, 2018 (2.10)
XXHighEnd Mach II Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon E5 2640v4 with Hyperthreading On (20 cores) @~720MHz, 32GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 30/-/1/1/1/ Q1Factor = 40 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *5.19*  (max 120) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *52* (*43 ??*) / Nervous Rate = *10* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / *Arc Prediction Filtering (16x)* / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (*16ms*) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2017, 09:16:39 am »

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the quick response. It's not exactly what I had hoped for though....

Of course I have read your Ramdisk topic, otherwise I would never have gotten it going.

And of course I used your rama.bat, it says so in my original post in this topic.
And if you compare your rama.bat with my command file, you will see that they are very similar.

The reason I am not using A:\ and B:\ is quite simple. Both these drive letters are used on my music PC, and shared on the network with the same drive letter on the audio PC.

Is the drive letter significant? If needed I can change them, but I never saw the point.

My only concern is:
- Use of Ramdisk, as you describe it works well, both in MAXos and in MINos.

However:
If I reboot in MINos, my own .cmd file does not work as intended. It either never even starts copying files to the E:\ drive, or it does it way too late.

Yesterday I rebooted the pc in MINos.
After 3 minutes I got fed-up, used your procedure to start up two RAMdisks manually, and started XXhighend in RAM, and had Music.

15 minutes later, a command window pops up, which shows files being copied to the E:\ disk and it too starts up XXhighend in RAM. This all happens while I'm playing music in MINos, with the Ram XXHighend that I had started manually.

So now I have XXHighend running twice, which obviously causes problems. I can not remember when exactly I got the error message in which I am asked if I want to keep running both or not, but of course that message also appears.

The only answer I am looking for is:
Why does it take 20 minutes for my command file to run, it is called in the same startup folder as your XXHighend Control Panel, so I expect it to run immediately after boot?

Could this be caused by a difference between MAXos and MINos which prevents all links in the startup folder to be executed?

Regards,

Henk
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Win10 14393.0 / music on LAN /  / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 30/-/1/1/1 / xQ1 = 40 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Not Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 20.19  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/  / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive / Stop Desktop-Remaining-WASAPI-W10 Services / Keep LAN - Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 42 / Nervous Rate = 100 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Arc Predict -> Clairixa USB 0.80 meter -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a DAC With B'ass and Phisolator -> BAlanced interlink -> Apogee Grand loudspeakers, using STAX dma-x2 (midrange ribbon) / Krell FPB600C (bass ribbon)

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2017, 09:30:14 am »

Hi Henk,

I was referring to the topic and the consistency plus the help in the .bat itself, so you could not make mistakes. That is all.

And that you very clearly do not at all what's in that texts, is also clear, right ?
In other words :

If you think you can automate things, which for a reason is not in any help or topic described, you are on your own. Also, might you be able to find the topics/posts of concern about automatic start etc., you will see that I explicitly NOT advise that. So you can do it, but now it is *you* who must know how. And strangely enough, there it goes wrong. Funny eh ?

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If I reboot in MINos, my own .cmd file does not work as intended. It either never even starts copying files to the E:\ drive, or it does it way too late.

The service taking care of these things won't run. Later it might start for other reasons (decision of XXHighEnd) and again later it will shut off again (XXHighEnd again). And then later it will start. And so on.
Good answer eh ?
haha

In Normal OS all services just happily run, so there you can't have the problem.

Now, follow the procedure as I have written it, be a bit less lazy and all will be fine. OK ?
Happy
Peter

PS: Another advice : don't try to force that (whatever) service to run because it will be one big mess. I promise !

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For the Stealth LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - March 23, 2018 (2.10)
XXHighEnd Mach II Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon E5 2640v4 with Hyperthreading On (20 cores) @~720MHz, 32GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 30/-/1/1/1/ Q1Factor = 40 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *5.19*  (max 120) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *52* (*43 ??*) / Nervous Rate = *10* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / *Arc Prediction Filtering (16x)* / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (*16ms*) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2017, 06:49:07 pm »

The service taking care of these things won't run. Later it might start for other reasons (decision of XXHighEnd) and again later it will shut off again (XXHighEnd again). And then later it will start. And so on.
Good answer eh ?
haha

Peter, This was exactly the answer I was looking for. I had expected something like this.

So all I need to do is start my command file from the desktop after boot, and I am fine.

It would be nice though if I could just boot the machine and start playing...
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Win10 14393.0 / music on LAN /  / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 30/-/1/1/1 / xQ1 = 40 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Not Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 20.19  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/  / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive / Stop Desktop-Remaining-WASAPI-W10 Services / Keep LAN - Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = 42 / Nervous Rate = 100 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Arc Predict -> Clairixa USB 0.80 meter -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a DAC With B'ass and Phisolator -> BAlanced interlink -> Apogee Grand loudspeakers, using STAX dma-x2 (midrange ribbon) / Krell FPB600C (bass ribbon)

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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2017, 07:06:25 pm »

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It would be nice though if I could just boot the machine and start playing...

Yes Lazy You. That is why I never shut down any PC wherever I am. Happy

Best regards,
Peter
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For the Stealth LPS PC :
W10-14393.0 - March 23, 2018 (2.10)
XXHighEnd Mach II Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon E5 2640v4 with Hyperthreading On (20 cores) @~720MHz, 32GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 30/-/1/1/1/ Q1Factor = 40 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 15ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *5.19*  (max 120) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *52* (*43 ??*) / Nervous Rate = *10* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 0 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / *Arc Prediction Filtering (16x)* / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (*16ms*) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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